What is up with Jason Garrett's playcalling?

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Yea I agree. I was angry at Tony last night but I've come to accept that's who he is. We're not going to win anything playing like this. On days where Tony is struggling, the Cowboys have to go to the running game. This loss falls on Garrett because if we just run the ball, the Cowboys would have won.
 

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Was the defense horrible last night? You betcha. Did Romo have a terrible turnover laden game? Yessiree. Would we have won the game despite these two facts if Garrett would have just accepted like everyone else on the planet earth that this was a day to keep it on the ground if there ever was one? Absolutely we would have.

There's little that could have been done about the other two facts, it was what it was, a bad game by Romo and the defense. But the playcalling was a tangible change that could have been made to adapt to the circumstances of this particular game.

It was obvious and incompetent not to identify the running game as our bread and butter last night.
 

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chinch;2958832 said:
our inept coaching staff EXPOSES our DEFICIENCIES.

We have a lot of talent, all misused by our inept, poor coaches.

we're not the most talented team in the league but we were a missed FG away from winning a game we spotted the opponent ~ 21 points.

we're not GOOD because our coaching STINKS

I've seen absolutely no indication of this.

As I've already stated, the Cowboys coaching staff may not be great, but they can only coach the players that the owner has given them.
 

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Dallas had 10 pass attempts and 14 rushes in the second half. It was those second half runs that got the average up to 9 yards a carry. They were not averaging 9 yards per carry in the first half even though they were running it well. Garrett did run the ball, but you have to mix in a pass or two to keep defenses on their heels. You even have to mix in a deep pass as well. Just because a deep pass is called does not mean that Romo has to actually throw it if it is covered.

This is on Romo. Garrett did a good job. No, a great job. He got an offense to overcome its own mistakes and generate 31 points. Not many teams can do that. The Giants offense can not do that. If Eli has a game where he turns it over multiple times and he will because he has done so many a time, his team will not score 31 points.
 

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ScipioCowboy;2958792 said:
I concede Wade's deficiencies as a head coach, but his history as a defensive coordinator speaks for itself.

Therefore, if the defense is substandard, I'm more inclined to blame the talent than Wade.

You're right, his squads always seem to self implode during big games, that is true. I have seen his squads play with heart in the past, not here though. If he has a person interfering with his deciesions then he should grow a set and tell them to get out of the way <even if it's Jerry> because that's the coach we need.
 

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dragon_mikal;2958155 said:
Same old crap from the wonder boy. Tony Romo was obviously off last night and the running game was dominant, but gotta make sure Tony throws the ball 30 times.:rolleyes:

Newsflash Jason...when something is working stick with it. Don't put the game in Tony's hands when he is obviously having one of his "Turnover Tony" nights.

I thought the defense played decent considering how many times they stopped the Giants only to have Tony give the Giants the ball right back. They still suck at forcing turnovers and letting Greg Ellis go was obviously a big mistake.

Well to answer the thread question. I say inconsistency in successful play calls. I believe that Jason Garrett philosophy is mostly the pass based off of him being a quarterback, quarterback coach, and now offensive cordinator.
 

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joseephuss;2958929 said:
Dallas had 10 pass attempts and 14 rushes in the second half. It was those second half runs that got the average up to 9 yards a carry. They were not averaging 9 yards per carry in the first half even though they were running it well. Garrett did run the ball, but you have to mix in a pass or two to keep defenses on their heels. You even have to mix in a deep pass as well. Just because a deep pass is called does not mean that Romo has to actually throw it if it is covered.

This is on Romo. Garrett did a good job. No, a great job. He got an offense to overcome its own mistakes and generate 31 points. Not many teams can do that. The Giants offense can not do that. If Eli has a game where he turns it over multiple times and he will because he has done so many a time, his team will not score 31 points.

Good points.

I don't have a problem with Garrett.

Romo had a bad game, but it's crazy that some want Jon Kitna or even Stephen McGee to be in there.

Everyone needs to quit trying to compare him to Roger, Troy, Danny, or even Reggie Collier. Dallas has never had a QB like this. He is very gifted in some of the more subtle areas of quarterbacking, but he is a risk taker sometimes when he shouldn't be. I don't know if you can win a Super Bowl with a guy like that, but he's by far the best Dallas has and has had for several years, so .....

I keep going back to the defense. Good grief.
 
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jimmy40;2958175 said:
31 points with a QB playing like crap. 250 yards rushing with a QB playing like crap. yeah, Garrett really sucked.:confused:

Exactly!! With the Cowboys ahead, & running through gaping holes in the defense, it could have been 350 yds.! There were two or three series in a row where, with the lead & their QB struggling, Garrett had Romo in the shotgun on 2nd down--2nd down!! Every time they ran on 1st down, & didn't get 8-30 yards, Garrett had to go shotgun on 2nd down.

If it's not broke, don't fix it. Run the ball until they stop you. Romo was off all night, and Jones & Barber were at their best---no brainer!! No to mentioned an offensive line, especially Kosier, who were just dominating in the running game.

This was a suicide game. We killed ourselves, and I blame Garrett for passing out the Kool-Aid when all he had to do was call run, run, run.
 

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Garrett did what he should have done which is a balanced attack against a good team. I doubt Garrett plan was for Romo to throw 3 ints on the night but the Giants defense is good enough that if you don't mix things up and become 1 dimensional they will adjust.
 

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ABQCOWBOY;2958805 said:
I don't think the problem last night was JG. Heck, he ran a balanced offense and he put up points. You draw up plays, run or pass, with the intent to try and spread the field. Just because you have a play that has a guy running deep, doesn't mean that the play goes deep. You run a guy deep to force your safety to stay back. If your LBs are playing off, then you probably run the ball. If your LBs are playing tight to the line, then you probably go to the TE or short WR. I mean, it's about finding the miss match and trying to exploit it. The game plan, offensively was sound. We beat the hell out of the Giants defensively IMO. We just didn't execute very well in the passing game and it cost us.

IMO Garrett calls his game in a vacuum.

He doesn't seem to consider how his decisions may impact or expose the Cowboys defense.

Garrett is in charge of the offense. Wade has the defense. And there isn't anyone who takes on the management of the overall game (e.g., adjusting the Cowboys' offense according to how the Cowboys' defense is doing). I don't think we are seeing coherent overall game management.

And that's what happens when you have a defensive coordinator and an offensive coordinator, but no head coach who has real authority over both sides of the ball.

Jerry Jones designed a headless horseman coaching staff. We are seeing the result.
 

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ZeroClub;2959123 said:
IMO Garrett calls his game in a vacuum.

He doesn't seem to consider how his decisions may impact or expose the Cowboys defense.

Garrett is in charge of the offense. Wade has the defense. And there isn't anyone who takes on the management of the overall game (e.g., adjusting the Cowboys' offense according to how the Cowboys' defense is doing). I don't think we are seeing coherent overall game management.

And that's what happens when you have a defensive coordinator and an offensive coordinator, but no head coach who has real authority over both sides of the ball.

Jerry Jones designed a headless horseman coaching staff. We are seeing the result.

I can not call him on this game. On the last INT, Romo has to locate the safety. He has to know where he is. If he's playing deep, which makes sense if your NY because of the field position (45), then you probably guard against the deep ball. Between the 40s are where you typically look to throw deep a lot of times, so it would make sense. I can't blame Garrett for that. In the past, I have definately had issues with his game call but last night, I thought he called a pretty good game.
 

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Fmart322;2958184 said:
The Cowboys would have overcome all the crap they did wrong last night had Garret ran the ball after their last TD. Those 2 three and outs due to passing call blew this game, IMO.

No, three ints blew the game.
 

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I think Garret's been doing a great job...His playcalling is getting us points and yards. But I do agree that he gets too cute.

I knew towards the end of the game that all we had to do was run the ball, keep getting first downs and maintain the lead. But I also knew that that was not going to happen. He needs to learn how to step on the other teams throat--not by getting the big play, but simply by beating them up and running over them.
 

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ZeroClub;2959123 said:
IMO Garrett calls his game in a vacuum.

He doesn't seem to consider how his decisions may impact or expose the Cowboys defense.

Garrett is in charge of the offense. Wade has the defense. And there isn't anyone who takes on the management of the overall game (e.g., adjusting the Cowboys' offense according to how the Cowboys' defense is doing). I don't think we are seeing coherent overall game management.

And that's what happens when you have a defensive coordinator and an offensive coordinator, but no head coach who has real authority over both sides of the ball.

Jerry Jones designed a headless horseman coaching staff. We are seeing the result.


You're making a lot of sense, as usual.

And add to that ... Wade IMO is in a lame-duck situation this year and a possible replacement is the offensive coordinator. It's typical Jerry -- dysfunctional management.
 

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ScipioCowboy;2958914 said:
I've seen absolutely no indication of this.

As I've already stated, the Cowboys coaching staff may not be great, but they can only coach the players that the owner has given them.

we have the best RB trio in the league

the best TD tandem in the league

top Punter

top FG Kicker and KO

Capable secondary

D-ware (some homers here thought he was MVP)

best NT in football

our coaches are simply pathetic & stupid.

we're devoid of COACHING TALENT and LEADERSHIP not capable football players.
 

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I'll divide your claims into three categories: quantifiably supportable assertions, opinions, and wishful thinking.

Quantifiably supportable assertions

chinch;2959421 said:
we have the best RB trio in the league

the best TD tandem in the league

D-ware (some homers here thought he was MVP)

Opinions
Capable secondary

Wishful Thinking
top Punter

top FG Kicker and KO

best NT in football

our coaches are simply pathetic & stupid.

we're devoid of COACHING TALENT and LEADERSHIP not capable football players.

Your post doesn't contain sufficient evidence to support your claim that the Cowboys are a supremely talented team only held back by its coaching.

The Cowboys have finished 9-7 in three of the past four years. They're 7-8 since they started 3-0 last year. These facts would suggest that the Cowboys are a slightly better than .500 NFL team.
 

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WoodysGirl;2958448 said:
If the defense makes one stop on that last Giants' series, Romo gets bailed out again..and the tone of the threads are much, much different.

Exactamundo! :thumbup:
 

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PullMyFinger;2959288 said:
No, three ints blew the game.

I know, yet dispite those picks we still could have won had Garret ran the ball.
 
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