What is wrong with Dak?

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so giving up 220 yards rushing had nothing to do with it.

I think both sides played like crap. offense struggled inside the 10.
defense couldn't contain the run. gave up big play after big play.
I don't care about yards. How many points did they give up?
 

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Cant read defences
Does not set his feet
Does not have touch
Does not throw with anticipation
Cant run anymore
Brain freeze when pressured

Otherwise hes a “great leader” and “can talk a chsmpionship game”
 

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I don't care about yards. How many points did they give up?
so now stats don't matter. until the next game, when they do.

they gave up 28, that's not defensive dominance.

and again. I am not giving a pass to anyone. offense or defense. sounds like you want to just drive one point and that this was all offenses fault.
the coach had no confidence in the defense. thus inside 10, down 5, instead of field goal and counting on the fact I get the ball back, he went for it on 4th down. having seen the offensive struggles up to that point.
guess what? he was right, because the defense gave up a TD.

so this was a bad game on offense. defense. coaches. debacle. but if you goal is to blame offense and then just point to Dak. then by all means do. nobody is stopping you.
 

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so now stats don't matter. until the next game, when they do.

they gave up 28, that's not defensive dominance.

and again. I am not giving a pass to anyone. offense or defense. sounds like you want to just drive one point and that this was all offenses fault.
the coach had no confidence in the defense. thus inside 10, down 5, instead of field goal and counting on the fact I get the ball back, he went for it on 4th down. having seen the offensive struggles up to that point.
guess what? he was right, because the defense gave up a TD.

so this was a bad game on offense. defense. coaches. debacle. but if you goal is to blame offense and then just point to Dak. then by all means do. nobody is stopping you.
Stats are overrated. PPG given up is the key stat. Ultimately the scoreboard is what matters. Yards are overrated. Yards per play is a better metric.
 

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Stats are overrated. PPG given up is the key stat. Ultimately the scoreboard is what matters. Yards are overrated. Yards per play is a better metric.
so first stats are over rated. then yards per play is a metric to be used.

dude, you are all over the place.

the 28 points would be bottom 5th of the league in defense. the 7.8 yards per play would have the defense as the worst in the league by almost 3 yardss, 50% worse than the 31st worst team.

like I said, plenty of fault to go around. both sides of the ball played bad.
 

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This loss was somehow Dak's fault. I'm still trying to get my head around this one.
Yes the defense struggled this one game. Dak has been struggling to score TDs through 3 games. He has 3 passing TDs and 0 rushing TDs in those 3 games. Why cant Dak step up and play good and help the defense once in a while. He looked absolutely horrible that game.
 
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Stats are overrated. PPG given up is the key stat. Ultimately the scoreboard is what matters. Yards are overrated. Yards per play is a better metric.
And yet, we keep losing in the playoffs due to giving up way too many yards rushing. Your points theory goes south quickly when examining the SF playoff game where SF only was able to muster 19 pts, but won due to controlling the game w/ rushing yds.
 

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so first stats are over rated. then yards per play is a metric to be used.

dude, you are all over the place.

the 28 points would be bottom 5th of the league in defense. the 7.8 yards per play would have the defense as the worst in the league by almost 3 yardss, 50% worse than the 31st worst team.

like I said, plenty of fault to go around. both sides of the ball played bad.
Typical FF youngster. They mostly just don't get it.

For a while, many espoused the idea that it was OK to let the other team drive up and down the field at will and then hold them to FG's. This idea has been wildly debunked as silly, but many hold on to it for some really strange reason.
 

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so first stats are over rated. then yards per play is a metric to be used.

dude, you are all over the place.

the 28 points would be bottom 5th of the league in defense. the 7.8 yards per play would have the defense as the worst in the league by almost 3 yardss, 50% worse than the 31st worst team.

like I said, plenty of fault to go around. both sides of the ball played bad.
Certain stats are overrated (like total yardage). I provided some metrics and stats that actually have value.
 

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And yet, we keep losing in the playoffs due to giving up way too many yards rushing. Your points theory goes south quickly when examining the SF playoff game where SF only was able to muster 19 pts, but won due to controlling the game w/ rushing yds.
You won't win many, if any, playoff games putting up 12 points. If your D gives up 19, you should win the game 9/10 times.
 

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Take the good and add it to the bad and you are defining Cooper Rush. Yet the same people who bash Dak support Cooper Rush, which is mind boggling to me. I am critical of Dak but I support him because he is the best we have in that position currently. I usually don't chime in on Dak threads, because I don't see a point of discussing this. He is who is our starting QB and unless we have an option of playing someone better in that position, this is a mute point.
Nope. They think if they can bash the QB daily for 8 years, that one day Jerry will (in their dreams) read the board and tell them he is getting rid of Dak and will just go with anyone else.
 

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This loss was somehow Dak's fault. I'm still trying to get my head around this one.
The late INT and Red Zone struggles. The INT was a bad throw and he should have just thrown it away for 4th down, but at that point it would take a lot to pull off a win late in the 4th quarter. Red Zone struggles seemed to have more to do with poor play calls and no one getting seperation.

However, I too don't think Dak is why we lost.
 

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Three out of the starting lineup on your OL didn’t help Dak in Az having said that a TE round 2 was bizarre I’m sorry . Invest heavily in your OL it pays dividends .

And prior to the broken ankle when yes he broke pocket and scrambled Dak seemed much more effective prior to that injury because the threat of his mobility was there . He’s never been a drop back throwing dimes pocket passer and MM needs to feed into that in schemes .
 

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Yes the defense struggled this one game. Dak has been struggling to score TDs through 3 games. He has 3 passing TDs and 0 rushing TDs in those 3 games. Why cant Dak step up and play good and help the defense once in a while. He looked absolutely horrible that game.
his role from now on is to not cost us the game, so he just sits on the bench and pouts. Get used to short passes, Mike isn't letting dak lose games for us this year.
 

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Certain stats are overrated (like total yardage). I provided some metrics and stats that actually have value.
like I said, first you said stats are meaningless.
now you understand at least that not all stats are meaningless (although total yards is not totally meaningless).

and I showed you how bad the defense was with the stat you mentioned was important.
 

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You won't win many, if any, playoff games putting up 12 points. If your D gives up 19, you should win the game 9/10 times.
Correct. And a big reason we only put up 12 is because we couldn't move the ball consistently. Yards.

It all ties in, dude. There simply isn't any one stat that is meaningless, only degrees. And when you let teams walk up and down the field on you(yards), your chances of winning plummet hard.

Look at 2017 NE, who went by your strategy. Let the other team get yards, it doesn't matter. The problem is, that might work against crapp teams, teams you prolly would've beat anyway. But, in the playoffs, you are suddenly facing teams that will turn those yards into points. And then not only do those yards matter, they become the most important item. NE not being able to stop PHILLY from walking up and down the field is THE reason NE lost.

Yards matter, possibly more than any other factor.
 

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Correct. And a big reason we only put up 12 is because we couldn't move the ball consistently. Yards.

It all ties in, dude. There simply isn't any one stat that is meaningless, only degrees. And when you let teams walk up and down the field on you(yards), your chances of winning plummet hard.

Look at 2017 NE, who went by your strategy. Let the other team get yards, it doesn't matter. The problem is, that might work against crapp teams, teams you prolly would've beat anyway. But, in the playoffs, you are suddenly facing teams that will turn those yards into points. And then not only do those yards matter, they become the most important item. NE not being able to stop PHILLY from walking up and down the field is THE reason NE lost.

Yards matter, possibly more than any other factor.
Yards per play is a better metric than total yards.
 

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like I said, first you said stats are meaningless.
now you understand at least that not all stats are meaningless (although total yards is not totally meaningless).

and I showed you how bad the defense was with the stat you mentioned was important.
Yeah, I shouldn't have implied that all stats are meaningless; that's definitely not the case.
 

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so first stats are over rated. then yards per play is a metric to be used.

dude, you are all over the place.

the 28 points would be bottom 5th of the league in defense. the 7.8 yards per play would have the defense as the worst in the league by almost 3 yardss, 50% worse than the 31st worst team.

like I said, plenty of fault to go around. both sides of the ball played bad.
He's not all over the place. That is just your rhetoric because you don't like what he is saying.
 
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