What is wrong with Dak?

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Maybe “ what’s wrong with Dak “ is looking at this from the wrong perspective . 4th round pick not a 1st . Romo UDFA . It’s QB’s like this teams repeatedly passed up drafting and in Romo instance passed up all together .

The fans need to wake up . Nice stats piling up wins against the driftwood of the NFL a schedule is littered with gives one false hope when early round playoff exits are baked in the cake .

Now if the defense can somehow figure out spying on running QB’s and clamp down keep the game in striking distance then you can turn to this offense to hopefully put up 21 plus points . 16 on the road ain’t going cut it . Especially with MM throwing FG’s in the garbage .
 

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His aDot is 5.2 yards. 34th in the league. That means worst of all starters and a backup. They aren't letting him throw down the field because he's a pick waiting to happen. Defenses are starting to see it and just squatting on all the short stuff.
how is he a pick waiting to happen down the field? even last year, his worst year for interceptions, most of the picks were within 10 yards of the line!!!

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Maybe “ what’s wrong with Dak “ is looking at this from the wrong perspective . 4th round pick not a 1st . Romo UDFA . It’s QB’s like this teams repeatedly passed up drafting and in Romo instance passed up all together .

The fans need to wake up . Nice stats piling up wins against the driftwood of the NFL a schedule is littered with gives one false hope when early round playoff exits are baked in the cake .

Now if the defense can somehow figure out spying on running QB’s and clamp down keep the game in striking distance then you can turn to this offense to hopefully put up 21 plus points . 16 on the road ain’t going cut it . Especially with MM throwing FG’s in the garbage .
well, not sure but what's the record of teams giving up 200+ yards rushing and winning a game? this game was lost way before the last drive.
 

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There's a list of things that contributed to the loss, but it's like talking to a wall around here.
You could read the forum member name and tell what's going to be said.

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The defense lost the game but Prescott didn't win the game. Look at the Giants game the week before. Cardinals scored 28 points and had big leads in both games. They rushed for over 150 yards and Dobbs threw for almost 230 yards yet Daniel Jones was able to help the offense score 31 points in the second half behind a putrid offensive line and pull out the W. DJ actually justified his contract in a game he could help the team win by making enough plays.

No doubt Prescott will ball out against gash teams when the defense dominates creating multiple turnovers and giving the offense outstanding field position...but then a practice squad QB like Cooper Rush wins those games as well as we all saw last season so what's the point paying Prescott? He's like a kid playing QB on his school team because his dad is the coach. All the other kids know he's the weak link on the team but they just have to toe the line as if they say anything (Dez, Cooper, etc) they will be moved on. How much longer will Parsons keep quiet...
To be fair Dak got them in scoring position 5 times. They failed in the red zone. We can dissect every drive but I don't see evidence that Dak is the reason they failed in the red zone. You can argue that the pass to Gallup was slightly underthrown, but I would argue it was DPI and should have given the Cowboys a fresh set of downs at the 1 yard line. You can argue that the pass to CeeDee was underthrown, but I would argue that CeeDee gave up on the ball thinking he was going to get a DPI call. I did not think that one was actually DPI but I would have to watch it again. I thought Lamb could have made a better effort to catch that pass.

The one error I think Dak made was the INT. That ball had a low trajectory and it got picked off. I thought Cooks was open for a second there, and if the ball was thrown over the LBs head it might have been caught, but at the same time, the other defenders might have caught up to it. Dak didn't have much time to make a decision and the only other thing he could have done was throw it out of the end zone to avoid the sack. At that point the Cowboys were down 12 points. They needed 2 TDs. Prior to that pass, they wasted time running the football twice. IMO, that INT was a desperation throw in a do or die situation.

I am not saying Dak was great or even that he played up to his $40 million contract. He didn't. But the red zone issues were bigger than Dak. I think if they converted a couple of those drive into TD, the game would have ended differently.

I still blame that broken coverage that led to the Cards last TD for this loss. We haven't seen anything like that from Dallas since before Quinn took over the defense. But that mistake at that times was a killer, a game ender.
 

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how is he a pick waiting to happen down the field? even last year, his worst year for interceptions, most of the picks were within 10 yards of the line!!!

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He consistently under throws receivers would be a more accurate description of tossing the ball downfield. His INT's have more to do with him not seeing the field and actually being able to work through his progressions. That INT against AZ was once again because he locked on to his receiver, was late throwing the ball and never saw the dude with the red jersey right in the middle of the field.
 

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He consistently under throws receivers would be a more accurate description of tossing the ball downfield. His INT's have more to do with him not seeing the field and actually being able to work through his progressions. That INT against AZ was once again because he locked on to his receiver, was late throwing the ball and never saw the dude with the red jersey right in the middle of the field.
hey, thats the only guy he could see. He only sees a quarter of the field guys. smh, new fans.
 

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You could read the forum member name and tell what's going to be said.

You could read the comment and guess the forum member name in 2-4 guesses.

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Yup. Ruins any discussion about Dak, but the reiteraters just have to repeat what they say, they just have to.
 

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Yup. Ruins any discussion about Dak, but the reiteraters just have to repeat what they say, they just have to.
Who's "they?" You're endorsing a dude that does exactly what you're claiming.
 

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He consistently under throws receivers would be a more accurate description of tossing the ball downfield. His INT's have more to do with him not seeing the field and actually being able to work through his progressions. That INT against AZ was once again because he locked on to his receiver, was late throwing the ball and never saw the dude with the red jersey right in the middle of the field.
but similar analysis with enough samples has also shown he is a fairly accurate down field thrower.

the Interception against Cardinals had multiple issues. Dak should have just thrown it away. but also cook should have ran it deeper to create space between him and LB in front of him. and the play design was bad that allowed defense to bunch into two areas and close passing lanes. it was a failure in play design, play execution and personnel grouping. Instead of Cook, it should have been Gallup or Lamb running that route, so they wouldn't be hidden behind the LB because of smaller size. again, Dak should have thrown it away. even if that, the other points stand.
 

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Agreed. I think he doesn't see the field well. Throws the ball high when he throws off his back foot. Streaky on his accuracy like feast or famine.
Throws well when out of the pocket. Can run when he decides to do it but since his ankle injury he rarely does. Is a good leader.
"Is a good leader" keeps getting shoved down our throats...but to me, great leaders also lead by example and performance, not just rah rah crap that eventually gets old. And to me, this has gotten old.
 

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I just want a healthy discussion about Dak.
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To be fair Dak got them in scoring position 5 times. They failed in the red zone. We can dissect every drive but I don't see evidence that Dak is the reason they failed in the red zone. You can argue that the pass to Gallup was slightly underthrown, but I would argue it was DPI and should have given the Cowboys a fresh set of downs at the 1 yard line. You can argue that the pass to CeeDee was underthrown, but I would argue that CeeDee gave up on the ball thinking he was going to get a DPI call. I did not think that one was actually DPI but I would have to watch it again. I thought Lamb could have made a better effort to catch that pass.

The one error I think Dak made was the INT. That ball had a low trajectory and it got picked off. I thought Cooks was open for a second there, and if the ball was thrown over the LBs head it might have been caught, but at the same time, the other defenders might have caught up to it. Dak didn't have much time to make a decision and the only other thing he could have done was throw it out of the end zone to avoid the sack. At that point the Cowboys were down 12 points. They needed 2 TDs. Prior to that pass, they wasted time running the football twice. IMO, that INT was a desperation throw in a do or die situation.

I am not saying Dak was great or even that he played up to his $40 million contract. He didn't. But the red zone issues were bigger than Dak. I think if they converted a couple of those drive into TD, the game would have ended differently.

I still blame that broken coverage that led to the Cards last TD for this loss. We haven't seen anything like that from Dallas since before Quinn took over the defense. But that mistake at that times was a killer, a game ender.
Funny logic, getting to the redzone were all Dak, yet failing to score TD became "their" problem. This is a typical double-standard.
 

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1. He’s good, not great.
2. He was missing three starting o linemen.
3. His comfort blanket at TE is gone.
 

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Take the good and add it to the bad and you are defining Cooper Rush. Yet the same people who bash Dak support Cooper Rush, which is mind boggling to me. I am critical of Dak but I support him because he is the best we have in that position currently. I usually don't chime in on Dak threads, because I don't see a point of discussing this. He is who is our starting QB and unless we have an option of playing someone better in that position, this is a mute point.
I support both quarterbacks. There's really no controversy. But I do think Cooper Rush could be good in this offense.
 
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