What is wrong with Dak?

[CowboyRoy]

there are times that he does. there are times he fails and you scratch your head. that's the inconsistency. its not a criticism. he is not elite, as a result he will make mistakes that an elite QB wouldn't. I don't complain about him not being elite like most others do.

Wow so hes not perfect? So hes not elite?

Big time stuff there.

You dont think elite qbs make mistakes?

Dak was great on sunday. His one big mistake was his last pass that meant nothing. Game was over.

 

[CowboyRoy]

I'm convinced you're Tad now. No one else would consistently simp for this guy to this extent.

So feel free to tell me how dak screwed up individually other than the pick.

Can you do it without blaming him for everything like a clueless troll would?

Ill wait. Specific plays.

 

[IslandCowboy]

His problem is that he just isn't cut out to be elite. Dude is a JAG that landed on a great team at the right time to an owner who likes shiny new things.

 

[rnr_honeybadger]

It's sad, but literally the same problem forever. I like the mentality of drafting Mazi, but sadly, he looks Taco-esque. Maybe he will turn it around, but they're barely putting him out there and when they do I don't see any kind of impact.

Eh, it's an effort I suppose. But this team is always always behind when it comes to such thing. They never anticipate a problem, never look ahead that hey we might need to find a replacement for x or need to bolster y. Nope, just take best person available and hope for the best.

 

[5Stars]

I am really not trying to bash Dak here. I genuinely root for him but I've became very frustrated with his play over the years. And he has seemed to have regressed since his rookie season.
Let's break down Dak and evaluate what he does well and what he doesn't do well.

There is nothing wrong with Dak, he is what he is and has been.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Wow so hes not perfect? So hes not elite?

Big time stuff there.

You dont think elite qbs make mistakes?

Dak was great on sunday. His one big mistake was his last pass that meant nothing. Game was over.

ok, seems like you have a ready made answer my friend.

I never said elite QBs don't make mistakes.

they are more consistent and make less mistakes. thus they are elite.

there is nothing wrong with saying Dak is not elite. its not black and white like some Dak hating bunch like to make it, as if he is not great, therefore he sucks. no, there is a huge area in between. he is top 10. he is not elite. both can be true.

and that last pass meant a lot, one more chance. with several minutes to go. not even necessary for an onside kick.

and also, the throw in endzone to Gallup was not good, it should have been higher to allow gallup to catch it above his head as opposed to in his chest, with a DB there. hoping for pass interference.

again, this doesn't mean I am saying he sucks. far from it. he just made a couple of mistakes. and with the rest of the team less than good, we lost the game.

 

[CowboyRoy]

ok, seems like you have a ready made answer my friend.

I never said elite QBs don't make mistakes.

they are more consistent and make less mistakes. thus they are elite.

there is nothing wrong with saying Dak is not elite. its not black and white like some Dak hating bunch like to make it, as if he is not great, therefore he sucks. no, there is a huge area in between. he is top 10. he is not elite. both can be true.

and that last pass meant a lot, one more chance. with several minutes to go. not even necessary for an onside kick.

and also, the throw in endzone to Gallup was not good, it should have been higher to allow gallup to catch it above his head as opposed to in his chest, with a DB there. hoping for pass interference.

again, this doesn't mean I am saying he sucks. far from it. he just made a couple of mistakes. and with the rest of the team less than good, we lost the game.

Ive said for year Dak is not elite.

Thats NOT a problem. Dak is top 10. Better than 70% of the other QB's.

To me what separates elite from 2nd tier is the ability to move around in the pocket and extend plays. Often using legs to get key first downs or big plays.

Dak can do some of that, but he isnt quick enough.

That last pick meant nothing in the scope of the game. If you want to say its bad in the way of late game clutch screw up, Im fine with that.

But the game was over.

Dak was incredible up until that final pass extending drives on 3rd down with clutch throws and using his legs.

 

[plymkr]

the WORST opinion i've heard all week and that saying a lot we are two and one it's still one of the top teams in the league, you want to put in our #3. most horrible idea ever i mean it has zero common sense let's skip over cooper rush and let's skip over RUSH, the fact that after game three when we're two in one. its one loss ..OMG worst post this week!

sure let's wave the white towel put our number 3 IN and start tanking while still very much in the race... this is so ridiculous i'm gonna have....rom the computer before i get benched...

Did you even read the post that I replied to. The post I replied to suggested Dak play out his contract and leave the team. So if my understanding is correct that would mean the rest of this season and all of next season. So that would be starting Lance at the beginning of the 2025 season.

You’re the only one talking about this season. It helps to read the whole thread and get context before you go on the attack.

 

[CowboyRoy]

Fully agree.
That's exactly the tier and other calibre of quarterbacks I would rate Prescott with. Bubble top 10 but in reality top 15. It's very difficult to win a Superbowl with those quarterbacks as the roster has to be strong throughout and it's hard to produce that type of quality paying those quarterbacks what they earn relative to the salary cap.

Well, you have been dead wrong about Dak and where he ranks for 8 straight years.

What you think matters little. NFL players, Owners, coaches all have him ranked in the top 10 for 4 years now. Just like most eveyone else does.

Where some wrong way troll ranks Dak really doesnt matter does it?

 

[5Stars]

Ive said for year Dak is not elite.

Thats NOT a problem. Dak is top 10. Better than 70% of the other QB's.

To me what separates elite from 2nd tier is the ability to move around in the pocket and extend plays. Often using legs to get key first downs or big plays.

Dak can do some of that, but he isnt quick enough.

That last pick meant nothing in the scope of the game. If you want to say its bad in the way of late game clutch screw up, Im fine with that.

But the game was over.

Dak was incredible up until that final pass extending drives on 3rd down with clutch throws and using his legs.

CowboyTad, at it again.

 

[CowboyRoy]

This is not what Kurt Warner says. Warner does not like what he sees. I tend to agree with him. Forgive me if I believe a certifiable QB genius over some guy on a message board.

BWAAAAA!!!! Still holding onto that one Kurt warner one game evaluation a few years ago eh?

What you can believe is the voting of current coaches and players and an overall evaluation of genius like Mike Martz.

If you want to educate yourself on last game, go head and do so. All kinds of video out there on how dak played. But I will warn you, Dak is not to blame for the loss.

 

[Captain-Crash]

I'm glad big Mike has opened up the offense for dak. That chicken KM was holding dak back.

 

[Rajveer]

The good:

Throw’s better when he’s on the move.

The bad:

Inaccurate
Poor field vision
Hyper aware of pressure
Can’t throw receivers “open”
Production drops off drastically against zone

Dak plays like a 4th round draft pick against good teams.

He’s right up against his ceiling.

Take the good and add it to the bad and you are defining Cooper Rush. Yet the same people who bash Dak support Cooper Rush, which is mind boggling to me. I am critical of Dak but I support him because he is the best we have in that position currently. I usually don't chime in on Dak threads, because I don't see a point of discussing this. He is who is our starting QB and unless we have an option of playing someone better in that position, this is a mute point.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Ive said for year Dak is not elite.

Thats NOT a problem. Dak is top 10. Better than 70% of the other QB's.

To me what separates elite from 2nd tier is the ability to move around in the pocket and extend plays. Often using legs to get key first downs or big plays.

Dak can do some of that, but he isnt quick enough.

That last pick meant nothing in the scope of the game. If you want to say its bad in the way of late game clutch screw up, Im fine with that.

But the game was over.

Dak was incredible up until that final pass extending drives on 3rd down with clutch throws and using his legs.

I don't put a box around exactly what skills are missing or abilities they have or have not. it varies. sometimes a less mobile QB, has better accuracy, innate ability to extend plays by moving in the pocket, etc. but I get your point.

he was pretty good up to that point. he did miss a few plays, but it happens.

with that said a lot of our issues in the redzone was because of OL and bad play design, including the interception play. the design and personnel grouping was just bad. Also, I think Cook ran a lazy route. on that play he needed to be deeper in the endzone creating more space between him and the LB.

 

[Tractor1]

Prescott's who he's always been. Limited when it comes to accuracy and pocket awareness, but seems to play better when used in the run game early. If the team's playing disciplined football, he's capable of driving the bus.

 

[ChuckA1]

ok, seems like you have a ready made answer my friend.

I never said elite QBs don't make mistakes.

they are more consistent and make less mistakes. thus they are elite.

there is nothing wrong with saying Dak is not elite. its not black and white like some Dak hating bunch like to make it, as if he is not great, therefore he sucks. no, there is a huge area in between. he is top 10. he is not elite. both can be true.

and that last pass meant a lot, one more chance. with several minutes to go. not even necessary for an onside kick.

and also, the throw in endzone to Gallup was not good, it should have been higher to allow gallup to catch it above his head as opposed to in his chest, with a DB there. hoping for pass interference.

again, this doesn't mean I am saying he sucks. far from it. he just made a couple of mistakes. and with the rest of the team less than good, we lost the game.

Wow, a very good, brief synopsis of Dak and the team last Sunday

 

[khiladi]

Guys I heard Moore only uses curls and digs.. What’s going on here?



Chargers really sucking it up in the red zone too..

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Guys I heard Moore only uses curls and digs.. What’s going on here?



Chargers really sucking it up in the red zone too..

wow, lets enshrine him in Canton...I already called the guys to start building his bust.

3 games into the season. give it time.

 

[khiladi]

Guys, my favorite part about training camp were the posts about how much better this offense looked with Moore gone, more tempo and Dak was in such command and it was all over for the rest of the league,..

Where did all that “humility” go???

 

[CT Dal Fan]

Okay I'll play this game from a Dak fan's point of view:

Strengths
-Strong framed QB with the arm to make every throw inside and outside the pocket
-Enough mobility to escape the initial rush and make plays on the move or outside the script of the play
-Underrated ability to read and dissect coverages
-Underrated accuracy and shows the ability to place the ball where only the receiver can catch it
-High character, accountable team leader that has the respect of his teammates
-Top notch work ethic with the drive and desire to improve

Weaknesses
-Lacks consistency with his footwork and the ball sails on him on at times
-Presses in crucial situations and will sometimes force the issue, resulting in turnovers
-Tends to play too fast when pressured and does not see the entire field
-Time and past injuries have taken away a lot of his speed and threat as a runner
-Is an "ebb and flow" player; he tends to go as the rest of the team goes

I think this is about as fair and subjective an assessment I can give Dak. Feel free to agree or tear it all apart.