What is wrong with Dak?

blueblood70

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I am really not trying to bash Dak here. I genuinely root for him but I've became very frustrated with his play over the years. And he has seemed to have regressed since his rookie season.
Let's break down Dak and evaluate what he does well and what he doesn't do well.
Romoisgod that says it all it's in your name like Tony Romo never did anything wrong in his entire career and you're here bashing on Prescott as if we don't understand that you're a Tony Romo fan that doesn't like Prescott.. :muttley: :facepalm: :espn:

Regressed?? yes you are bashing because you are wrong.. This in fact is another dak hater thread like we needed another one you obviously don't watch football enough or have no real in-depth knowledge on how to look at a football game and know what's going on if you think he hasn't been good since his rookie year then you shouldn't be posting about him because you know nothing he's actually had some better years... A lot of the regression is in the offensive line and the play calling and changing the offense a lot..

IMHO he had his best season in in 2021 37 touchdowns 10 interceptions 4800 yards A 12 win season and a playoff berth.

again last year another 12 win season, we have a top ten quarterback he didn't regress, no other options on that last INT, go look at the video again with the dumb still pic of the three deep covers they had on one guy....

why didn't the picture where on the other targets, this is the way it was all night when you have 3 missing starting Pro Bowl offensive lineman, that is what it looks like they only needed a four man rush to get pressure they had everybody else back in coverage...​
nobody was open all night, there were three minutes left in the game and that's the only option he had was just to make something happen when there was nothing there anyway, the game was already over, what city have done taking a sack and lost the game kicked the field goal and lost the game dumped it short that guy gets tackled short of the line and lost the game... The defense lost the game what were you watching maybe they regressed?!​
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Real football people would know that, you say he hasn't been right since he got hurt, maybe he doesn't run as much but dude last year when he came back off a broken hand he had our offense go from bottom ten with Cooper rush to top five in third down%, red zone scoring, and total scoring ie 36 points per game... he dropped 40 on the Eagles no other team put 40 on the Eagles all last year. So this regression you're seeing you might want to look at the team overall the offensive line the defense all the other things that went on with penalties and games over the last couple years you know you guys look at the last play of the game or in the last two minutes of a game when you're down 15 points and you're going to blame it on the quarterback for trying to make a play that wasn't there it just wasn't there!!​
 

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I am really not trying to bash Dak here. I genuinely root for him but I've became very frustrated with his play over the years. And he has seemed to have regressed since his rookie season.
Let's break down Dak and evaluate what he does well and what he doesn't do well.
What's wrong with this fan base and its lack of football IQ posting about things they obviously can't determine on their own... I mean you can't evaluate a player like Prescott acting like he hadn't played well since his rookie year and I'm telling you that's wrong you need to be able to understand all the other changes around him and yet he still had some career years since you know like in 2021..
 

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I am as ready to move on from this experiment as anyone, but not really sure it's entirely his fault. Were we not down 2 scores when he threw into triple coverage? All game it seemed that his WR's couldn't get open even when he had time, so is this on him to blame? OL starters out....blame Jerry and Jr for this, not Dak. The D wasn't just not good, they were awful, back to the missed tackles that we saw last year. Rewatch the game, it's a joke how these guys were flying around like chickens with their heads cut off
 

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Good things about Dak
- Great leader
- Extreme work ethic
- Throws well on the run
- Good at presnap reads
- Runs strong when he decides to
- Knows the offense

Unfortunate things about Dak
- Struggles with pocket presence (WC has helped with this)
- Almost never throws the ball away
- Struggles to see field in zone post snap (WC has helped with this)
- Inconsistent accuracy/touch at all levels (WC has amplified this weakness)
- Struggles with anticipation throws
- Always seems to wait 2 seconds too long before deciding to scramble

Summary
- Every time we play from behind, you are going to be frustrated with Dak. Playing from behind forces him to hang in the pocket, make tight, anticipatory throws, and read complex zone defenses. Those are ALL weaknesses for him.
- I think the coaching staff has modified the offense to give him the best chance to play well as long as he plays with a lead. He needs a strong defense and OL to play well.
- McCarthy running the ball so much in the last 8 minutes of the Cards game shows that he understands Dak’s limitations, and is trying to limit Daks weaknesses.
- Dak cannot overcome a bad game from his defense. He is not a ‘carry the team’ QB.
- All of these traits existed in his Mississippi State scouting report. He’s still that QB.
- In the NFL, he is a top 15 QB and waffles between top 8 and bottom 10 play depending on game circumstances. Over time, better young players will slowly push him down in rankings (Love, Hurts, Tua, Class of 2024, etc)

Do I personally think he should be resigned? No. The value he provides would not match the $ he demands. I would only resign him with intent to waive the no trade clause to trade him, but I doubt that’s on the table.
An excellent post and very objective. A balanced view yet those obsessed with Prescott will claim you are a hater no doubt. Sad and pathetic.
 

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I am really not trying to bash Dak here. I genuinely root for him but I've became very frustrated with his play over the years. And he has seemed to have regressed since his rookie season.
Let's break down Dak and evaluate what he does well and what he doesn't do well.
He doesn't process info quickly enough and doesn't see the field well enough.

It's that simple.
 

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Prescott is in the tier of Carr, Cousins, and Garoppolo. QBs that will have games here and there that make people think they are on the cusp of elitism, but they are bubble top 10 QBs, but realistically top 15. You can win Super Bowls with these types of QBs but they have major flaws that keep them from winning it without immense talent surrounding them.

Jerry and McCarthy think Dak has the ability to be elite. It is what it is.
 

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Nothing really. He has great accuracy and doesn’t choke in big games. He’s the ninth best quarterback in the league. You won’t see another team’s backup beat this guy. I’m can’t wait for his new deal. It’s the defense fault.
 

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This loss was somehow Dak's fault. I'm still trying to get my head around this one.
Clear, blind, follower.

Let me ask you something, how few of points would we have had to score to place the blame on Dak, according to you?

12? 9? 0?

I think it is safe to say, 16 points is not enough in this league. When you can't score more than 16, the blame will fall, and rightfully so, on the offense and the leader of the offense. The QB.

We have some absurd Dak haters, I am probably one of them, but you aren't helping the situation by being an absurd Dak homer. Blame needs to be placed here, all around, and that includes the QB for sunday's piss poor game.
 

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Nothing really. He has great accuracy and doesn’t choke in big games. He’s the ninth best quarterback in the league. You won’t see another team’s backup beat this guy. I’m can’t wait for his new deal. It’s the defense fault.
SF agrees.
 

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Good things about Dak
- Great leader
- Extreme work ethic
- Throws well on the run
- Good at presnap reads
- Runs strong when he decides to
- Knows the offense

Unfortunate things about Dak
- Struggles with pocket presence (WC has helped with this)
- Almost never throws the ball away
- Struggles to see field in zone post snap (WC has helped with this)
- Inconsistent accuracy/touch at all levels (WC has amplified this weakness)
- Struggles with anticipation throws
- Always seems to wait 2 seconds too long before deciding to scramble

Summary
- Every time we play from behind, you are going to be frustrated with Dak. Playing from behind forces him to hang in the pocket, make tight, anticipatory throws, and read complex zone defenses. Those are ALL weaknesses for him.
- I think the coaching staff has modified the offense to give him the best chance to play well as long as he plays with a lead. He needs a strong defense and OL to play well.
- McCarthy running the ball so much in the last 8 minutes of the Cards game shows that he understands Dak’s limitations, and is trying to limit Daks weaknesses.
- Dak cannot overcome a bad game from his defense. He is not a ‘carry the team’ QB.
- All of these traits existed in his Mississippi State scouting report. He’s still that QB.
- In the NFL, he is a top 15 QB and waffles between top 8 and bottom 10 play depending on game circumstances. Over time, better young players will slowly push him down in rankings (Love, Hurts, Tua, Class of 2024, etc)

Do I personally think he should be resigned? No. The value he provides would not match the $ he demands. I would only resign him with intent to waive the no trade clause to trade him, but I doubt that’s on the table.
Very well done.
 

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The real question is why do we have nearly 30 years of failure to get past the 2nd round? Dak hasn't been the QB of the Cowboys for that long, so why do we keep getting the same result OVER and OVER and OVER?

What did Parcells say? Once he left it will be like he never came into the organization?

Our FO puts together a team just good enough to keep your interest and keep your hope alive, but there is ALWAYS some fatal flaw, and they get reactive and try to 'fix it' the next year while some other new hole emerges.

We kept talking about the holes in the o-line, and that bore fruit last game. We passed up on a high graded o-lineman who performed well against Jalen Carter for an older TE who is barely seeing the field. We draft a mini-rb when we were going to commit to being a running team.

We had an FO that literally shipped away our best receiver for a 5th rounder.

What does that have to do with Dak? Everything. Switching out QBs isn't going to fix the problem. The FO builds teams that are only good enough to get to the 2nd round. If we had Mahomes here, then we skimp on defense and put more of the load on him to put up 40 points every game.

We refuse to go ALL IN and end up getting beat up by teams like the Eagles and 49ers who DO go all in. McCaffery sure was a bad investment for the 49ers right

The huge issue is the softness of the organization and the refusal to be aggressive. We keep babying Dak and the offense and they look like trash to start the season. ZERO preseason time for the starting O. Then, we let our starting O-lineman have a rest day and got smacked up by the Cards.
 

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The real question is why do we have nearly 30 years of failure to get past the 2nd round? Dak hasn't been the QB of the Cowboys for that long, so why do we keep getting the same result OVER and OVER and OVER?

What did Parcells say? Once he left it will be like he never came into the organization?

Our FO puts together a team just good enough to keep your interest and keep your hope alive, but there is ALWAYS some fatal flaw, and they get reactive and try to 'fix it' the next year while some other new hole emerges.

We kept talking about the holes in the o-line, and that bore fruit last game. We passed up on a high graded o-lineman who performed well against Jalen Carter for an older TE who is barely seeing the field. We draft a mini-rb when we were going to commit to being a running team.

We had an FO that literally shipped away our best receiver for a 5th rounder.

What does that have to do with Dak? Everything. Switching out QBs isn't going to fix the problem. The FO builds teams that are only good enough to get to the 2nd round. If we had Mahomes here, then we skimp on defense and put more of the load on him to put up 40 points every game.

We refuse to go ALL IN and end up getting beat up by teams like the Eagles and 49ers who DO go all in. McCaffery sure was a bad investment for the 49ers right

The huge issue is the softness of the organization and the refusal to be aggressive. We keep babying Dak and the offense and they look like trash to start the season. ZERO preseason time for the starting O. Then, we let our starting O-lineman have a rest day and got smacked up by the Cards.
Yep, run defense has been a problem for over half a decade. How long does it take to address it?
 

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Nothing is wrong with Dak. The expectations of him playing at a higher level than he is now is what’s wrong. We can win with him but we need dominance on O and D lines. When one falls short, we struggle. When both fall short, we’re toast.

No one is likely asking what’s wrong with Geno Smith, Cousins, or Carr. Their limitations are excepted, as should Dak’s be.
 

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Even if he did, which team out there is trading for him?
Fair question. For his price tag? I’m not sure. This team way overvalues its players. I feel the same way about Dak as I did Zeke. A lot of people thought Zeke would immediately get scooped up, but he sat until someone said “meh. We will take him”. I think Dak could be traded to the right team if his contract is structured appropriately. I’m not saying you’d get insane draft capital for him, but maybe you get a 1st or 2nd from the right team?
 
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