What I've Gleaned from the 3 Preseason Games in 2022, and My Final 53

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Cox is making the team. I don't know how you can say he has not been very good this preseason. The thing that stuck out to me is the speed on defense. Cox is part of that.

I know Golston was a 3rd round pick and it stinks to have to give up on a 3rd round pick in his second year but I think he is the odd man out unless they find a way to keep an extra defensive lineman. Ridgeway makes the team because if they put him on the practice squad the will lose him. Look at the leap Bohanna has made in 1 year. If Ridgeway does the same next year the Cowboys will have a strong interior DL and depth for a change.
 

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You think Dowdle is ahead of Shampklin?

100%

The way I see it the 3rd running back is something like 70% Special Teams, 30% Running Back, and given Turpin is undoubtedly our return guy, what would Shampkin do on special teams at 5'9 194lbs? Whoever that 3rd running back is will need to play a blocking role on ST and I feel like Dowdle offers the most but Davis has shown himself pretty capable as a blocker too.

Same story with the TE's. It's one thing when the 5th and 6th WR are guys like Brown and Fehoko because they are bigger and good blockers on special teams. But a guy like Houston.....what's he doing aside from his 5 offensive snaps per game? Aren't we better off selecting Hendershot who can play 20-30 ST snaps as a blocker and isn't that adding more than 5 snaps on offense?
 
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You don’t keep a guy like Jefferson (strictly ST) over a guy like Donovan Wilson (special teams and can start)

Like I said earlier, I was being more conventional with the numbers. But I think the Cowboys keep him, maybe go heavy on safeties.
 

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I thought DiNucci put forth the best performance in our last preseason game. Was that a fluke? It seems a bit of a conundrum. :huh:

None of our backup QBs are at a level yet to be consistent. That is the problem.

They really should go snatch Carson Strong from the Eagles.

He's going to get cut, but only because the Eagles are going to try to hide him.
 

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I see the Cowboys anywhere from a 10-7

This smells about right given the challenges we are facing and the "Cowboy" handicap I am beginning to develop a theory over that talks about their poor showing in the months of December and January.

Typically I felt we were always good early to intermediate part of schedule, and then our wheels fell off at the back end for a variety of reasons.

I am thinking the start of the season is going to be a bit tougher for us, and the end is our traditional handicap section of the schedule leading into the playoffs.

With a poorer showing in the front and our traditional "tough" season at the back end...10-7.
 

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That’s 5DEs, who is your #6?

Please don’t take this the wrong way, but your take on Cox (that it’s a tossup between he and Gifford and we could go either way on him making the roster) is probably the most off base I’ve seen on any roster projection so far. At first I thought you were kidding.

I think you took what I was saying the wrong way.

I will say that I don't think the Cowboys are high on Cox. Because as soon as camp started, and he played, they went out and got Barr.

So, I'm not basing that off what I think of the player. I'm basing that off what the Cowboys have done.
 

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I agree with most of the outlook. However a few difference with the roster.

I think the big thing for me is who might get poached. Personally, I doubt either of Dowdle/Davis at RB or Smith/Houston at WR would get claimed by another team and even if they did it just makes the choice easy for us (keep the other one). On the other hand I think if either of McKeon/Hendershot are cut, Ridgeway or Wilson, then I think they probably get claimed. So I would be very reluctant to let them go (expecting them to not make the practice squad).

To me, the way through roster cuts is obviously to firstly have a handshake deal with the vested veterans on one year deals. But after that's exhausted I think we should just cut the 3rd RB and 6th WR and hope they make it to the practice squad. If they do make it past that week 1 waiver claim then under current rules we have the power to elevate up to two players from the practice squad without subjecting them to further waiver claims. Of course, you can only elevate a player three times before they must be made a part of the 53 man roster but by week 3 who know where the roster sits with injury or COVID outs. We might have space then.


Fair points.

I'll just go ahead and tell you right now. Hendershot won't make it. He'll get picked up. You gotta keep him.

I"m aware of what happens with most players. Teams will pick up a few and we won't like it. Good thing it doesn't have to be Shampklin right now, since he got hurt that last play.

If Zeke gets hurt, we should just roll with Pollard, SHampklin, Davis. It looks like the Cowboys did their homework for that scenario.

But if they plan on leaning on Zeke, like they say, you can't really justify 4 RBs day 1.
 

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My take? In a nutshell:

The backup talent is weak overall.

Without ANY play by Dak, Zeke, Martin, Lawrence, Parsons etc. all we can do is evaluate the backups against other teams' backups, and it wasn't pretty.

Nothing at all can we glean about the regular season team. Not like the old days when the starters would play at least a quarter in the next to last game so you could at least see if they appeared healthy and in sync with their teammates.

I do NOT like the starters sitting out the entire preseason unless they are like the late 60's/early 70's teams that had played together for several years and didn't need a lot of work to get ready. Yes, I know injuries can occur but just because you didn't play in the preseason doesn't guarantee you won't get hurt in the regular season. But I'm not saying that's the way it should be, just my take on it.
The backup talent is a strength of this team. This is the best safety group that they have ever had. Their backup depth in the defensive line is very strong. Their running back group is strong. Bland is awesome as a rookie corner. Their tight end group is strong. They have built an outstanding roster.
 

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I'm going with this as my Final 53 Cowboy Roster.




QB
Dak Prescott
Cooper Rush
Will Grier

RB
Ezekiel Elliott
Tony Pollard
Malik Davis

WR
CeeDee Lamb
Noah Brown
Simi Fehoko
Jalen Tolbert
Dennis Houston
Brandon Smith


TE
Dalton Schultz
Jake Ferguson
Peyton Hendershot


LT
Tyler Smith
Matt Waletzko


LG
Connor McGovern
Avainte Collins


C
Tyler Biadiaz
Matt Farinok


RG
Zack Martin


RT
Terrence Steele
Josh Ball



RDE
Daunte Fowler
Tarell Basham

RDT
Osa Odighizuwa
Trystin Hill


LDT
Neville Gallimore
Quinton Bohanna


LDE
Demarcus Lawrence
Sam Williams
Chauncy Golston


OLB
Anthony Barr
Jabril Cox
Storey Jackson


MLB
Micah Parsons
Leighton Vander Esch
Devin Harper



RCB
Trevon Diggs
Nashon Wright


LCB
Anthony Brown
Daron Bland


NICKEL
Jourdan Lewis


FS
Malik Hooker
Markese Bell
Juanyeh Thomas


SS
Jayron Kearse
Israel Mukamu


P
Bryan Anger

K
Brett Maher

LS
Jake McQuade

PR/KR
Kavonte Turpin



INJURED RESERVE
Michael Gallup
James Washington
Tyron Smith
Damone Clark
Kelvin Joseph


16 MAN PRACTICE SQUAD
Ben DiNucci
Aaron Shampklin
T. J. Vasher
Sean McKeon
Amon Simon
James Empey
Alec Lindstrom
John Ridgeway
Josiah Bronson
Mika Tafua
Big Kat Bryant
Malik Jefferson
Issia Taylor- Stuart
Tyler Coyle
2 to be named

INTERNATIONAL
Issiac Alarcon


KEY CUTS
Rico Dowdle( Just came down that I think Malik Davis has more upside and we lose Davis on waivers. I like Dowdle just became a numbers crunch)

Braylon Jones( Constantly struggled)

Dorrance Armstrong( I truly do not get the love affair for him. For me, he is like players Demetric Evans or Brandon Noble try hard but athletically they are in over their head)

Carlos Watkins( Just a numbers game and Hill & Bohanna outshines him as the backups)

Luke Gifford( I think we have gone as far as we can go with him. Decent player but better talent on the roster)

Donovan Wilson( I like him,but better talent on the roster)

CJ Goodwin( His age is a factor. He is over 30)

Lay off the wacky weed bro. Armstrong isn't going anywhere, neither is Dowdle. They will keep Donovan WIlson. No chance that Aviante Collins gets kept as a Guard...he is a tackle and not a very good one. Williams won't back up Tank, they will be on opposite sides. Basham plays more behind Lawrence. No chance that both Storey Jackson and Devin Harper make it. Maybe neither one. Seems like the team likes Gifford. JUanyeh won't make the 53. I think you are making too many pet cat picks rather than common sense ones.
 

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I'm going with this as my Final 53 Cowboy Roster.




QB
Dak Prescott
Cooper Rush
Will Grier

RB
Ezekiel Elliott
Tony Pollard
Malik Davis

WR
CeeDee Lamb
Noah Brown
Simi Fehoko
Jalen Tolbert
Dennis Houston
Brandon Smith


TE
Dalton Schultz
Jake Ferguson
Peyton Hendershot


LT
Tyler Smith
Matt Waletzko


LG
Connor McGovern
Avainte Collins


C
Tyler Biadiaz
Matt Farinok


RG
Zack Martin


RT
Terrence Steele
Josh Ball



RDE
Daunte Fowler
Tarell Basham

RDT
Osa Odighizuwa
Trystin Hill


LDT
Neville Gallimore
Quinton Bohanna


LDE
Demarcus Lawrence
Sam Williams
Chauncy Golston


OLB
Anthony Barr
Jabril Cox
Storey Jackson


MLB
Micah Parsons
Leighton Vander Esch
Devin Harper



RCB
Trevon Diggs
Nashon Wright


LCB
Anthony Brown
Daron Bland


NICKEL
Jourdan Lewis


FS
Malik Hooker
Markese Bell
Juanyeh Thomas


SS
Jayron Kearse
Israel Mukamu


P
Bryan Anger

K
Brett Maher

LS
Jake McQuade

PR/KR
Kavonte Turpin



INJURED RESERVE
Michael Gallup
James Washington
Tyron Smith
Damone Clark
Kelvin Joseph


16 MAN PRACTICE SQUAD
Ben DiNucci
Aaron Shampklin
T. J. Vasher
Sean McKeon
Amon Simon
James Empey
Alec Lindstrom
John Ridgeway
Josiah Bronson
Mika Tafua
Big Kat Bryant
Malik Jefferson
Issia Taylor- Stuart
Tyler Coyle
2 to be named

INTERNATIONAL
Issiac Alarcon


KEY CUTS
Rico Dowdle( Just came down that I think Malik Davis has more upside and we lose Davis on waivers. I like Dowdle just became a numbers crunch)

Braylon Jones( Constantly struggled)

Dorrance Armstrong( I truly do not get the love affair for him. For me, he is like players Demetric Evans or Brandon Noble try hard but athletically they are in over their head)

Carlos Watkins( Just a numbers game and Hill & Bohanna outshines him as the backups)

Luke Gifford( I think we have gone as far as we can go with him. Decent player but better talent on the roster)

Donovan Wilson( I like him,but better talent on the roster)

CJ Goodwin( His age is a factor. He is over 30)

You make good arguments for your roster.

Truth be told, it's not an easy chore. But I actually like that. I would rather have a few guys get cut that I like than not have anyone that I like.
 

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Gallup is on the 53..almost certainly .. Jerry said so

Crap. I forgot Gallup.

Oh well.

We'll see what happens.

Last thing I'll say is that the RBs are the same as the QBs. No one really stands out behind Zeke and Pollard, but for different reasons: they're all good. It's just about taste and style you prefer after that.
 
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After three preseason games, I have concluded that this off-season has been one of the most interesting in decades. First, and most obvious, we actually had a pretty good draft. We bring in Sam Williams, Tyler Smith, DaRon Bland, Jake Ferguson, Jalen Tolbert, and Devin Harper.

I like all of those guys.

Williams will be a force on defense. And I'm for keeping him at guard, but wherever Tyler Smith plays, I think he'll do well for us. I can't remember who it was, but a Wisconsin fan was talking to me about Ferguson, saying, "I can't wait to watch him on third and Ferguson." That's exactly what I see: a 3rd down machine. And I think Jalen Tolbert and DaRon Bland both end up being great players for us during their careers. And I think both contribute this year.

UDFA's Make 2022 Offseason Most Interesting in Decades

But this off-season was one of the most interesting because of our UDFAs. We've got a lot of talent there. First, we brought in two really nice running backs: Aaron Shampklin and Malik Davis. I'm not sure which one the Cowboys keep, but I suspect Shampklin goes on PUP and Davis makes the team.

On top of the two preseason standouts at running back, we also brought in a talented TE, Payton Hendershot whose ceiling is the limit. Many thought Hendershot would worthy of a draft pick. In any case, off-the-field issues devalued his draft stock.

Voila.

He's a Cowboy via the undrafted free agency.

Good pick up with Hendershot. It's like getting a free draft pick!

After Hendershot, we have Marquese Bell, who hasn't played perfectly. But he has played rather well at times, tackling along the line as well along the line and recording an interception while defending the pass.

It appears that Bell is another good signing who can not only make the team, but has potential to challenge the starters and push whichever player wins the spot through competition.

Brandon Smith is another player who has a shot to break the roster. He possesses enough talent that he could eventually earn some playing time. Thus far, he's recorded the two longest receptions throughout the preseason.

And don't count out James Houston. Many have reported about the chemistry he has after working with Dak Prescott in the offseason.

Honorable mentions for the 2022 UDFA class are: James Empey, Juanyeh Thomas, and Mika Tafau.

I think there's a good likelihood we see someone else's name other than Bell, Hendershot, Smith, Houston or Davis this year. But even with those five, that's quite a few players to be vying for a spot on an NFL team.

In most cases, that would have me worried. But this UDFA class is not lacking in talent. There's really a lot to unpack when you peel back the layers.

Veteran Players Developing Roles

The other thing I've noticed after watching the Dallas Cowboys in preseason was that a few of our rookies from last year are seemingly turning the corner this year.

We have Semi Fehoko. Fehoko and Brandon Smith looked like two most polished receivers out there. Without seeing it with my own eyes, I'll have to trust the word of reporters and other fans who attended the Cowboys' training camp who say Noah Brown had a good camp.

We didn't see him out there for even a snap, which can only lead us to conclude that Brown has already secured a starting role on offense, and he likely didn't play because the Cowboys didn't want to risk injury to a key player.

With that said, I'm looking forward to see how our second year players like Fehoko, Kelvin Joseph, Osa Odighizuwa, Chauncey Golston, Bohanna and Galloway play. I definitely noticed some improvement in Galloway and Bohanna. I'm almost positive Odighizuwa will improve on last year's performance.

And despite the fact we no longer have Tyron Smith, I think our running game improves.

I expect the Cowboys to lean on the 12 personnel sets and the creativity of Kellen Moore this year, who I happen to be a big fan of.

I see us as more of ball control, bully ball style of offense. We may not have the best play at left tackle, but then again, I'm optimistic that whatever we do we'll be able to get the run game going consistently since we seem to have a healthy stable of running backs.

Shampklin went out with an injury in preseason, so that may be a blessing in disguise because it allows you to keep him on the injured reserve list and play him after the second half of the season.

So, if I'm the Cowboys, I run the ball this year, and run it some more.

Driving the Bus, Slow and Steady

The Dallas Cowboys have Cee Dee Lamb, and players who can beat you deep like Fehoko and Hendershot, but I think their bread and butter will be setting teams up with the dink and dunk stuff, and letting our players beat you with their athleticism after the catch. Logic tells you that the longer Dak holds onto the ball, the more he's exposed to pressure.

So the Cowboys should perfect their short to medium range passing game, along with a heavy dose of the run game. If they do that, the longer range passes will come.

Overall, I would like to see the Cowboys using the pass to set up the run by going for high-percentage pass plays to get defenses thinking pass. If you can get them thinking pass first, then you'll have more success in with the run game.

Outlook

I'm optimistic for the season. I see the Cowboys anywhere from a 10-7 to a 12-5 team due to a much improved defense.

I would like to note that the defense was ranked number 8 in points allowed last year. To me, points allowed is the most important metric to ranking a defense.

I expect the Cowboys to be a top 5 defense in points allowed in 2022. If they're able to accomplish that, I like their chances at a playoff run.

Below is my guess at the 53, with a tad bit of my own biases inserted into the few roster spots that are up for grabs.


Quarterbacks (2)

Prescott
Grier (I still say Grier, but DiNucci turned it on tonight a little bit. I would poach Strong from the Eagles if I could.)

Running Backs (3)

Zeke
Pollard
Davis (Even though Shampklin may have outplayed him by a tad, I place him on PUP and see how Davis does.)

Receivers (6 for now until Gallup returns)

Lamb
Fehoko
Tolbert
Brown
Turpin (James Houston sounds nice, but there's not enough space for him behind Fehoko, Tolbert, Brown. What would he do when Gallup returns? In any case, you really don't need 7 receivers and you can get by with 6.
B. Smith

Tight Ends (3)

Schultz
Ferguson
Hendershot (More upside than McKeon, overall. Hendershot has an 8.4 RAS, so he's got more athleticism, even though he's a tad smaller. If Ferguson or Schultz get hurt, you still need a well-rounded TE and I think Hendershot is a more complete player, and likely a better STer, too. Place McKeon on the PS, as a veteran.)


Offensive Line (9)

Ball/Veteran Free Agent
T. Biadasz
T. Smith
Terence Steele
Zack

McGovern
Farniok

One of these two scenarios.

Empey (perhaps the Cowboys go with 2 back up centers, given the headache the middle of the OL was last year. Plus, Farniok can play guard. You can also release one when Gallup/Washington returns. If Farniok plays guard, Empey backs up at C. Then again, Empey probably doesn't make it.)

*Waletzko
(swing tackle if healthy. If not, we'll have to find a vet and put Well let's go on PUP).

Cornerbacks (6)

Diggs
Bland
Brown
Joseph
Lewis
Wright

Safeties (4)

Kearse
Hooker
Bell
Mukuamu (Mukuamu is better than Wilson, in my opinion. And cheaper. Plus, do you really need 5 safeties?)

Defensive Ends (6)

D-law
Dorance
Fowler
Williams
Basham

Defensive Tackles (5)

Gallimore
Bohanna
Oddigy
Hill
Golston (It's either Golston or Ridgeway. I'll take Golston. I honestly don't like Ridgeway, whatsoever. Overrated.)


Linebackers (6)

Parsons
Barr
LVE
Cox (I could go Cox or Gifford here. Neither are very good at this point)
Harper
Jefferson (Could be Jackson, maybe Gifford)

Special Teams (3)

Anger
Kicker (hopefully not Maher, although it's him right now.)
McQuade

Ya see, when you say "put him on PuP," you lose credibility. PuP is for players who were hurt before TC. You would have to keep him on the roster and cut another to get him on IR.
 

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Ya see, when you say "put him on PuP," you lose credibility. PuP is for players who were hurt before TC. You would have to keep him on the roster and cut another to get him on IR.

Oh sheesh. I think most people knew what I meant. It was just a post....

I meant IR.
 

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The backup talent is a strength of this team. This is the best safety group that they have ever had. Their backup depth in the defensive line is very strong. Their running back group is strong. Bland is awesome as a rookie corner. Their tight end group is strong. They have built an outstanding roster.

I wouldn't say the roster is outstanding but I do agree the backups are strong and the roster has taken big strides in the right direction in the last two to three years. The big issue is we haven't made good use of the salary cap. You look at the list of big contracts (Dak, Martin, Zeke, La'el, Jaylon, Tyron, D-Law, Amari) and we're looking at a lot of dead money along with a big ask for Zeke to deliver up to his contract.
 

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Oh sheesh. I think most people knew what I meant. It was just a post....

I meant IR.

but honestly, you don't understand the difference. One means an extra spot at cutdown and one means you have to cut someone you might want to keep in order to get your guy to IR

literally a huge difference
 

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None of our backup QBs are at a level yet to be consistent. That is the problem.

They really should go snatch Carson Strong from the Eagles.

He's going to get cut, but only because the Eagles are going to try to hide him.
Man, are they really that dumb? Strong is the best QB on their roster.
 

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but honestly, you don't understand the difference. One means an extra spot at cutdown and one means you have to cut someone you might want to keep in order to get your guy to IR

literally a huge difference

If you read the whole thing (novel idea, I know), then you'd see my first comment was actually about stashing Shampklin on the injured reserve list. But you'd have to read the post to understand that, rather than just glance at the roster and the comments.



"Shampklin went out with an injury in preseason, which could be a blessing in disguise, because it allows you to stash him on injured reserve list and play in the second half of the season...blah blah blah"

Anyway, it was a post..
 
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