CFZ What kind of Browns team will we be facing?

[Doomsday]

The Browns were stout upfront last season, this is going to be a measuring stick for the offensive line on the road.

 

[Adreme]

Steelers, Broncos, Texans, Rams had elite QB play?

Steelers didn’t score 30 (as I pointed out they scored 10 and 26), Broncos didn’t score 30 (and Wilson got carried that game by the fact that the Browns had no offense). So that leaves us with the Rams, who have Stafford and multiple great weapons, and the Texans (in one of the two games) who have Stroud and multiple great weapons.

So do I think both Stafford and Stroud are elite top 10 ABs: yes without question. Stafford is a borderline HoF guy and Stroud, while young, is the guy people are looking at to be the 5th QB in that MVP level QB club.

 

[Whyjerry]

Browns have some key injuries. Chubb’s is out. Watson is going to play but his shoulder he had surgery on in offseason isnt 100% or been bothering him.

Cowboys are 2 1/2 point underdogs. Initially I liked Browns but without a running game their offense could be limited and easier for us to defend.

Should be a game we can win even if we aren’t expected to.

Key matchup: can our Rookie OL’s handle Myles Garrett?

That is the matchup for sure.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Steelers didn’t score 30 (as I pointed out they scored 10 and 26), Broncos didn’t score 30 (and Wilson got carried that game by the fact that the Browns had no offense). So that leaves us with the Rams, who have Stafford and multiple great weapons, and the Texans (in one of the two games) who have Stroud and multiple great weapons.

So do I think both Stafford and Stroud are elite top 10 ABs: yes without question. Stafford is a borderline HoF guy and Stroud, while young, is the guy people are looking at to be the 5th QB in that MVP level QB club.

30 points isn’t the benchmark. I don’t need the Cowboys to score 30. It should take anywhere from 23 to 24 points to have a chance to win.

It does not to take elite QB play to beat the Browns. It also doesn’t take 30 points.

Trevor Lawrence had 3 interceptions and still won.

 

[DallasEast]

On second thought, Stroud torched their #1 defense last year in the playoffs and we have the MVP maid of honor. Should be a cakewalk.

Sarcasm noted. The magic ran out for Cleveland last season. Joe Flacco unretired and became their third (or fourth?) starting quarterback. They lose Nick Chubb for almost the entire season.

Time of possession was CRUCIAL against an offense like Houston's. Nine of the Browns' 12 possessions were four minutes or less, including their two touchdown drives. Four punts, four drives ending on downs, and two interceptions did not help them either.

Still, Browns' fans can, at the very least, say it was only 38-14 at the end of the third quarter. In a wild card game. Against a fourth seed. During an away game. ha. ha.

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[quickccc]

- Let QB Watson prove he can beat our defense .... take him off rhythm early in the game, and that will show us where he is
- if he can get hot or bounce back ... or stay erratic , make mistakes, give us field position with turnovers or bad possessions.

- we tend to be slugglish on the road than at home ,..and we'll need touches early on to get going in rhythm.

- whatever we manage to get positively in run game would really help our QB, to where Myles Garrett has to contain and not surge upfield as much, as well as

- Moving Lamb around vs Ward will be a keep eye on. will we force it to Lamb, or have support like Cook, Fergy to get going early instead ?

- i dunno who they have behind Chubb at RB, but not only is he a big loss, but i dunno if he will ever be the same with that horrific knee injury.

Let Browns prove they can beat us .. don't beat ourselves with killer turnovers and penalties.

 

[McKDaddy]

"Dude, It's the Browns!"

They still suck right?

Remember the last time we played them? in Dallas ....

 

[vlad]

Finally! Real NFL football starts this coming week. The 2024 Cowboys season starts next Sunday in Cleveland against a browns team with plenty of strengths and plenty of question marks too.

Here is a look at the browns strengths and weaknesses, along with question marks going into 2024:
STRENGTHS

• The browns have an outstanding defense. It was ranked #1 in 2023 in total defense, giving up only 270 yards per game.
• Their defense was especially tough against the pass last year, allowing a league low 57% completion rate for opposing QBs, and finished 5th in sacks with 49.
• DE Myles Garrett was the NFL Defensive Player of the year in 2023, is a 3x first team All Pro, and continues to be outstanding as a pass rusher and overall disrupter, getting 14 sacks last year, and had 16 sacks each the previous 2 seasons.
• The browns played very well at home last year, going 8-1 in their stadium.
• The browns were 11-6 last year despite losing their starting QB for the season in week 10 with a shoulder injury, and their top RB for the season in week 2.
• Despite not having a good QB situation last year, former Cowboy WR Amari Cooper had a very good season last year with 72 receptions for 1,250 yards, and made the pro bowl.

WEAKNESSES

• The browns offense has been mostly mediocre the last two seasons. In 2023, the browns were ranked 16th in total offense, and 14th in 2022.
• Their best RB Nick Chubb suffered a serious knee injury at the beginning of the season last year and will not be ready to start this season. Without Chubb, the browns only averaged 3.9 yds per rush in 2023.
• The browns were terrible on 3rd down conversion % last year, finishing 29th with a paltry 31.6% 3rd down conversion rate.
• Deshaun Watson will probably be very rusty having not played since last Nov and having a surgically repaired throwing shoulder.

QUESTION MARKS

• What will Deshaun Watson be able to do after that major surgery on his shoulder last year?
• Without Nick Chubb to start the season, will the browns be able to run the ball effectively? (They couldn’t last year)
• The browns (like the Cowboys) have a mostly rebuilt OL. Will it be able to be effective?
• Will the browns maintain their recent home field advantage after going 8-1 last year at home?

The opening week of every season always has surprises. This should be a very fun and interesting matchup. The browns have an outstanding defense but their offense has been just average. Hopefully the Cowboys can generate some offense and the defense can show some grit too.

The regular season is here!

Now that’s a a+ quality post - thx

 

[Bobhaze]

30 points isn’t the benchmark. I don’t need the Cowboys to score 30. It should take anywhere from 23 to 24 points to have a chance to win.

It does not to take elite QB play to beat the Browns. It also doesn’t take 30 points.

Trevor Lawrence had 3 interceptions and still won.

The browns D avg giving up 22 ppg last year but only 13.9 pts per game at home. Again that was last year which doesn’t mean it will translate this year. But I expect this to likely be low scoring game so we might be able to win scoring 20.

For what it’s worth, last year the Cowboys avg 36 ppg at home but only 23 on the road.

 

[Risen Star]

One looking to make a statement by laying the smack down on our candy behinds.

They will leave us laying prone on the field. Except for Beebe.

Take the Browns to cover the 17 point spread.

 

[Rockport]

Yeah, I agree, it can go either way Sunday. I like that we are starting the season on the road against a worthy opponent, unlike opening at the giants last year.

I always believe it takes at least 4-6 games to really get a good handle on what kind of team we have. We will certainly learn some things about this team Sunday in Cle but win or lose, there will be plenty of over-reactions either way. When you count on 4-5 rookies as major contributors there will be mistakes and growing pains.

But man, it’s great to finally see the regular season finally arrive.

Parcells on the “what’s your team like” question. “Ask me around Thanksgiving.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

The browns D avg giving up 22 ppg last year but only 13.9 pts per game at home. Again that was last year which doesn’t mean it will translate this year. But I expect this to likely be low scoring game so we might be able to win scoring 20.

For what it’s worth, last year the Cowboys avg 36 ppg at home but only 23 on the road.

That's a good point.

They seem to perform better at home than on the road. I have no argument against that. All I can say is I think our O is capable of putting up the 22 or 23 it should take to beat them. But you never know. I'm not confident but I do think it's a winnable game if the Cowboys show up.

 

[pancakeman]

Finally! Real NFL football starts this coming week. The 2024 Cowboys season starts next Sunday in Cleveland against a browns team with plenty of strengths and plenty of question marks too.

Here is a look at the browns strengths and weaknesses, along with question marks going into 2024:
STRENGTHS

• The browns have an outstanding defense. It was ranked #1 in 2023 in total defense, giving up only 270 yards per game.
• Their defense was especially tough against the pass last year, allowing a league low 57% completion rate for opposing QBs, and finished 5th in sacks with 49.
• DE Myles Garrett was the NFL Defensive Player of the year in 2023, is a 3x first team All Pro, and continues to be outstanding as a pass rusher and overall disrupter, getting 14 sacks last year, and had 16 sacks each the previous 2 seasons.
• The browns played very well at home last year, going 8-1 in their stadium.
• The browns were 11-6 last year despite losing their starting QB for the season in week 10 with a shoulder injury, and their top RB for the season in week 2.
• Despite not having a good QB situation last year, former Cowboy WR Amari Cooper had a very good season last year with 72 receptions for 1,250 yards, and made the pro bowl.

WEAKNESSES

• The browns offense has been mostly mediocre the last two seasons. In 2023, the browns were ranked 16th in total offense, and 14th in 2022.
• Their best RB Nick Chubb suffered a serious knee injury at the beginning of the season last year and will not be ready to start this season. Without Chubb, the browns only averaged 3.9 yds per rush in 2023.
• The browns were terrible on 3rd down conversion % last year, finishing 29th with a paltry 31.6% 3rd down conversion rate.
• Deshaun Watson will probably be very rusty having not played since last Nov and having a surgically repaired throwing shoulder.

QUESTION MARKS

• What will Deshaun Watson be able to do after that major surgery on his shoulder last year?
• Without Nick Chubb to start the season, will the browns be able to run the ball effectively? (They couldn’t last year)
• The browns (like the Cowboys) have a mostly rebuilt OL. Will it be able to be effective?
• Will the browns maintain their recent home field advantage after going 8-1 last year at home?

The opening week of every season always has surprises. This should be a very fun and interesting matchup. The browns have an outstanding defense but their offense has been just average. Hopefully the Cowboys can generate some offense and the defense can show some grit too.

The regular season is here!

Thanks for putting this post together!

 

[Risen Star]

I've got the Cowboys starting 2-5.

I wanted to give them another win in there. Maybe the Steelers or Lions game but they will be abused by the Browns, Ravens and 49ers.

Buckle up. This will get ugly.

 

[links18]

Remember the last time we played them? in Dallas ....

I think that year was a blurr....

 

[Risen Star]

You know how they play on grass.

I'm already focusing on the Saints. Try to get back to .500 before the Ravens rape.

 

[J12B]

Finally! Real NFL football starts this coming week. The 2024 Cowboys season starts next Sunday in Cleveland against a browns team with plenty of strengths and plenty of question marks too.

Here is a look at the browns strengths and weaknesses, along with question marks going into 2024:
STRENGTHS

• The browns have an outstanding defense. It was ranked #1 in 2023 in total defense, giving up only 270 yards per game.
• Their defense was especially tough against the pass last year, allowing a league low 57% completion rate for opposing QBs, and finished 5th in sacks with 49.
• DE Myles Garrett was the NFL Defensive Player of the year in 2023, is a 3x first team All Pro, and continues to be outstanding as a pass rusher and overall disrupter, getting 14 sacks last year, and had 16 sacks each the previous 2 seasons.
• The browns played very well at home last year, going 8-1 in their stadium.
• The browns were 11-6 last year despite losing their starting QB for the season in week 10 with a shoulder injury, and their top RB for the season in week 2.
• Despite not having a good QB situation last year, former Cowboy WR Amari Cooper had a very good season last year with 72 receptions for 1,250 yards, and made the pro bowl.

WEAKNESSES

• The browns offense has been mostly mediocre the last two seasons. In 2023, the browns were ranked 16th in total offense, and 14th in 2022.
• Their best RB Nick Chubb suffered a serious knee injury at the beginning of the season last year and will not be ready to start this season. Without Chubb, the browns only averaged 3.9 yds per rush in 2023.
• The browns were terrible on 3rd down conversion % last year, finishing 29th with a paltry 31.6% 3rd down conversion rate.
• Deshaun Watson will probably be very rusty having not played since last Nov and having a surgically repaired throwing shoulder.

QUESTION MARKS

• What will Deshaun Watson be able to do after that major surgery on his shoulder last year?
• Without Nick Chubb to start the season, will the browns be able to run the ball effectively? (They couldn’t last year)
• The browns (like the Cowboys) have a mostly rebuilt OL. Will it be able to be effective?
• Will the browns maintain their recent home field advantage after going 8-1 last year at home?

The opening week of every season always has surprises. This should be a very fun and interesting matchup. The browns have an outstanding defense but their offense has been just average. Hopefully the Cowboys can generate some offense and the defense can show some grit too.

The regular season is here!

Relax little buddy and stop worrying.

We'll find out a week from now.

 

[Bobhaze]

That's a good point.

They seem to perform better at home than on the road. I have no argument against that. All I can say is I think our O is capable of putting up the 22 or 23 it should take to beat them. But you never know. I'm not confident but I do think it's a winnable game if the Cowboys show up.

Winnable for sure…and lose-able too. Every NFL opponent is capable of both.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Winnable for sure…and lose-able too. Every NFL opponent is capable of both.

This is true.

 

[big dog cowboy]

What part of my post confuses you?

Seems pretty straight forward and obvious.