What NFC-East Team is Overrated ...and or Underrated

[jterrell]

the teams in the NFCE are predicted to be:
Eagles, Dallas, Giants then Skins.

I expect that is a most reasonable scenario but do feel Dallas actually has the most talent on paper.

On paper its: Dallas, Eagles, Giants, Skins.

Dallas and the Eagles are wayyyyyy better than the Giants and Skins.

Skins are very young at QB and questionable at WR. They have a very poor DL where Marcus Washington is their best pass rusher.

Giants have been a solid team that relied so heavily on Tiki Barber. But the QB play has been poor and lot of the talent is inconsistent and/or moody.

Eagles had huge problems stopping the run last year and Darren Howard is all but a free agent bust already. The LBs have names but are very old. The secondary and offense are very solid. The OL specifically is very good. McNabb is good when healthy but pretty poor when banged up.


Dallas is solid on both sides of the ball but can get hurt quickly with injuries as some of the depth is questionable; especially along both lines. What I like about Dallas is they addressed the 3 biggest questions this team had this off-season: Adding pass rusher Anthony Spencer in round 1, signing Leonard Davis at OG, and coming to terms with Ken Hamlin at free safety. The only playoff team who did anything near that good this off-season is the NE Pats and they are the early favorites.

If I had to say someone was overrated I'd go with the Eagles who have been ranked top 5 in most rankings.

If I had to say someone was underrated it would be Dallas based on the rankings where they are in the mid teens. For a playoff team that did not lose anyone thy wanted to keep and added 3 significant contributors it makes little sense for them to be ranked to low.

I will say both the Skins and Giants could put things together and play well. A couple of surprise seasons and they will be at a reasonable talent level. BUT it hard to suggest that will happen based on the history of the players involved and the minor positive changes they have since last season.

 

[jobberone]

The Eagles are generally rated fairly high. And for good reason. Not liking them or hating them doesn't change the facts. How many NFC title games have they gone to in the last ten years. So I don't buy the fact they are generally underrated. Unless of course you think they are in the same league as SD, Colts, NE etc.

The Cowboys should be ranked near the top 16 teams unless you really think they are not a playoff team. Being in the NFC makes it easier to make the playoffs. They may not be a SB team but who are you going to rank above them in the NFC?

I never underestimate the Giants or Commanders. But they are at best marginal playoff teams. And I personally rank the Giants ahead of the Skins. Neither are likely to make the playoffs IMO. I'd bet money against the Skins.

 

[LowTech]

I think the Commanders are underrated this year. Partially because of the most recent DL ratings placing the Skins in last place. I think they may have had some DL problems, but not because of talent (or the lack therefo) but Because certain players were playing wrong positions due to coaching errors.

Also feel that the Giants are underrated this year also. Especially with a huge RB vacancy in Tiki Barber and a coach that is on the bubble.

Traditionally, the Eagles have been an underrated team. This year is no different, especially with the big question mark placed on McNabb's full return, and ditto for Kearse's return. Coupled with the fact that the Eagles are going into the season without a named number one wide receiver.

The Cowboys ...I want to make this a legitimate thread, so I'll refrain from giving my perspective about the Cowboys to prevent from being accused of some underlying motive. I'll let you guys make that call.

Let's do this ...

:ralph:

 

[MetalHead]

PT,go away.
You are a phony.
We don't like phonies here.

 

[LowTech]

Just ask PT about Ryan Fowler

 

[GimmeTheBall!]

I think the Commanders are underrated this year. Partially because of the most recent DL ratings placing the Skins in last place. I think they may have had some DL problems, but not because of talent (or the lack therefo) but Because certain players were playing wrong positions due to coaching errors.

Also feel that the Giants are underrated this year also. Especially with a huge RB vacancy in Tiki Barber and a coach that is on the bubble.

Traditionally, the Eagles have been an underrated team. This year is no different, especially with the big question mark placed on McNabb's full return, and ditto for Kearse's return. Coupled with the fact that the Eagles are going into the season without a named number one wide receiver.

The Cowboys ...I want to make this a legitimate thread, so I'll refrain from giving my perspective about the Cowboys to prevent from being accused of some underlying motive. I'll let you guys make that call.

Let's do this ...

Don't you have to resupply on batteries to throw against visiting teams or sumptin

That green is really sickly, IMO

What team would choose green for its color????

I think the ugliness of the Eagles color is underrated

I think you and the team from philthydelphia are overrated

 

[BourbonBalz]

Let the guy stay around. We'll then see if he comes on here after we destroy the Vultures this year. Barring catastrophic injuries, I guarantee you we will win the East. Guarantee!!!!!! The Vultures have had their run and continually come up short. They're on the decline and we're on the rise. Anyone that doesn't see that just isn't looking hard enough. Their QB is injury-prone, isn't clutch, and is aging. Their secondary is also aging. Their wide-receivers are average at best. The main thing they have going for them is a good coaching staff. Talent-wise, we beat them.

 

[AsthmaField]

PT has a lot of hate for the Cowboys. It comes out in his posts. He wants to be viewed as a legitimate rival fan on this forum but he just can't be. He won't come out and say what he means. He hides what he really wants to say and only hints at the cutdowns and insults that he is dying to throw around.

It's very evident that he is saying the Skins, Philly and NY are all underrated and that Dallas is overrated. Very clear. He still tries to hide that and says he won't comment so he can't be accused of anything.

Gimme a break.

It really is getting old.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

so, let me get this straight

4 teams in the division, PT has labeled 3 of them EXCEPT for us, as underrated, but doesn't get to us

gee golly, oh boy, I wunder who's overreated??!!1

 

[Zaxor]

PT... like I told you before when you were asking about most hated divisional rivals... I said that the other teams weren't worth the effort in hating they simply aren't even in the same stratosphere as the Cowboys.

..same thing applies here...

those "other" teams in the NFC East aren't even worth rating let alone giving them an over/under mark. (They have no chance of winning it all, regardless of polls, rankings, etc.)

and as far as historical ratings since the Dallas Cowboys conception it is like this...

All the way on top of the highest mountain is the Dallas Cowboys....

Than down below in the deepest valley we shall name "contempt"
you have 2 teams the Stealers and the 49(cheat)ers

and than beneath contempt is all the other teams...

dig

 

[Hoofbite]

So the Eagles, Skins and Giants are all underrated.......

 

[mmohican29]

isn't there an eagle board somewhere for u to drop ur bird crap? go away

 

[Phoenix-Talon]

Over rated NFL team? Colts

Under rated? Steelers
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[DallasEast]

Over rated NFL team? Colts

Under rated? Steelers
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Pennsylvania has a lot of underrated NFL teams, doesn't it?

Hold on...

1.

Pittsburgh

2.

Philadelphia

Excuse me.

Correction: Pennsylvania has two underrated NFL teams, doesn't it?

 

[burmafrd]

What credibility you had was shot right after you claimed the Skins D line is talented. NO one except Skin idiots think their D line is talented.

 

[Phoenix-Talon]

Pennsylvania has two underrated NFL teams, doesn't it?

Sure ...one per conference!

 

[Phoenix-Talon]

What credibility you had was shot right after you claimed the Skins D line is talented. NO one except Skin idiots think their D line is talented.

Couple of things here ...

I could care less about your qualification of my credibility, and Skin fans are not how you've described them.

The other thing is that talent does not necessarily go hand-in-hand with effectiveness on the field. You can have a team full of talent, but if that talent is not harnessed and used effectively ...it's going to be ranked low.

Note: Too many fans here like to use insults and sling names without tapping into their own resources for reflection prior to posting. Is that necessary to make your point each time?

Interpretation: Credibility is a two-way street. The way you express yourself toward others has a lot to do with your self-worth.

 

[Stash]

Couple of things here ...

I could care less about your qualification of my credibility, and Skin fans are not how you've described them.

The other thing is that talent does not necessarily go hand-in-hand with effectiveness on the field. You can have a team full of talent, but if that talent is not harnessed and used effectively ...it's going to be ranked low.

Note: Too many fans here like to use insults and sling names without tapping into their own resources for reflection prior to posting. Is that necessary to make your point each time?

Interpretation: Credibility is a two-way street. The way you express yourself toward others has a lot to do with your self-worth.

The crybaby 'victim' act comes out yet again.

Newsflash victim!

You came here insinuating that every team in the NFC East is somehow underrated except our Cowboys.

That's a lot less transparent than your usual clueless potshots.

You're a troll who doesn't even have the guts to admit it.

Ban this troll!

 

[YosemiteSam]

Phoenix-Talon has a zero rating and yet, still remains over-rated.

 

[superpunk]

Maybe instead of confrontation, if PT is a troll, just ignoring him might work more effectively.

After all, if someone is a troll - nothing pleases them more than constantly seeing their topics bumped to the top of the page (if noone else does it - they will eventually) and confrontation and discord. There's plenty to be said about this topic (if anyone cares enough) without incessant PT bashing.






I will say, though - that you didn't give us much to work with, Talon. It's tough to respond legitimately to a post which includes no facts, or basis for hypothesis. I think most NFC East teams are rated where they belong. The Giants are likely to be garbage this year. Depending on who is evaluating them, you could make a case for them being underrated. But unless you have someone saying that they'll challenge for the #1 pick in next april's draft - you cannot underrate this crappy franchise.

If I had to pick a team that is underrated, it would be the Skins. They still have decent talent, but everyone seems to assume they'll be dreadful still. Maybe their defensive changes take off, and they win alot more games. They have alot of potential on offense, their offensive line is sound. They could win some games, maybe even creep above .500

If a team had to be picked as overrated, most definitely it would be the Cowboys. No team with a first year head coach and no playoff wins in a decade should be picked to do much. The Cowboys are alot like the Chargers, immensely talented but not much to show for it. New coaches might change that, but I don't think there's a great record of that. I thikn the Boys should improve, but a playoff win would be a significant step in the right direction. Championship dreams are slightly overrating.

I'd be curious to know why you think the Eagles are consistently underrated. I've seen very few broadcasters say anything less than the Eagles should challenge for the NFC year in and year out. Do you have any supporting evidence for that claim? Or are you just making something up for a talking point? I'd like you to find one example of an analyst underrating the Eagles this year. Either that, or explain more clearly how "Traditionally, the Eagles have been an underrated team".