What NFC-East Team is Overrated ...and or Underrated

[Vintage]

I think the Commanders are underrated this year. Partially because of the most recent DL ratings placing the Skins in last place. I think they may have had some DL problems, but not because of talent (or the lack therefo) but Because certain players were playing wrong positions due to coaching errors.

Also feel that the Giants are underrated this year also. Especially with a huge RB vacancy in Tiki Barber and a coach that is on the bubble.

Traditionally, the Eagles have been an underrated team. This year is no different, especially with the big question mark placed on McNabb's full return, and ditto for Kearse's return. Coupled with the fact that the Eagles are going into the season without a named number one wide receiver.

The Cowboys ...I want to make this a legitimate thread, so I'll refrain from giving my perspective about the Cowboys to prevent from being accused of some underlying motive. I'll let you guys make that call.

Let's do this ...

Obviously, you think we are overrated.

And while normally, I'd jump all over you at anything I see as blatant agenda-driven spiel....

However, I cannot.

Because I agree.

I do not think I overrate the Cowboys, because I see a 9 or 10 win season (which seems plausible to me; though admittedly, I am a fan and could perhaps be blind and be overrating us too...)

But I think the Skins will recover somewhat from last year. I don't see them only winning 5 games. I think they'll get around 7-8 wins...

Romo's been a starter for 10 games. We don't know exactly what he is, despite what some may think. LT is another spot that could be questionable. Defensively, the unit collapsed last year. We need a pass rush and our secondary will need to play better - much better.

That's not to say the Eagles don't have holes either - they do. But I do not think we are competing for a title this year.

Edit: By title, I mean Super Bowl. I think we will compete for the NFC East division title...

 

[juck]

I think you should go away


seriously..

and your team is still overrated

I didn't know being considered the NFC East champs in most books is underrated

 

[YosemiteSam]

Over rated NFL team? Colts

Under rated? Steelers
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Steelers? Ha, they must be your second favorite team. Steelers have Crapfilledburger as a QB. Thats enough to put them down with the Browns.

 

[Teague31]

dont the skins have demetric evans starting on their Dline??? that tells me all i need to know about the quality of their line.

 

[Phoenix-Talon]

Maybe instead of confrontation, if PT is a troll, just ignoring him might work more effectively.

After all, if someone is a troll - nothing pleases them more than constantly seeing their topics bumped to the top of the page (if noone else does it - they will eventually) and confrontation and discord. There's plenty to be said about this topic (if anyone cares enough) without incessant PT bashing.

I appreciate the benfit of doubt superpunk ...you've changed somehow.

Hmmm.

I will say, though - that you didn't give us much to work with, Talon. I'd be curious to know why you think the Eagles are consistently underrated. I've seen very few broadcasters say anything less than the Eagles should challenge for the NFC year in and year out. Do you have any supporting evidence for that claim? Or are you just making something up for a talking point? I'd like you to find one example of an analyst underrating the Eagles this year. Either that, or explain more clearly how "Traditionally, the Eagles have been an underrated team".

That's fair superpunk.

Explanation/clarification how "Traditionally" the Eagles have been an underrated team

The Eagles are, and probably will remain underrated until we win a Superbowl. I need not remind you about the "empty trophy case," the injury proneness, and many other underrated comments ...not to mention the Philadelphia curse that seems to have subsided through the years for some reason.

Eagles management have been quite frugal in previous years, to sign major longevity contracts to players (e.g., T.O., Stallworth, Corey Simon, Montgomery, etc). Hence, key players who have added the cohesiveness to our team have been released under FA acquisitions to other teams. In-turn, the Eagles have had to startall over in the rebuilding process.

Underrated is not always a negative perspective. More often than not, the Eagles are underestimated because opponents feel that they do not have the depth required to fill-in when positions are vacated due to injuries, or other reasons.

Jim Johnson would probably make one hellofva good headcoach somewhere, but we are fortunate to have him as a defensive coordinator. His blitz pakages help neutralize opponent teams from exploiting any weaknesses that actually might exist.

Finally (for the sake of brevity) our pass/run ratio has leaned all the way to one side of the scale until last year, under Marty's coaching. Even now, many believe that Tony Hunt and Nasty Nate (receently signed to a 4-year contract, have absolutely nothing to do with our intent to cotinue to throw the ball more than we run for yardage).

Overrated? If so, it's through the eyes of the sports writers and the media... certainly not by fans anywhere.

I hope you view that as a legitimate response superpunk. I must say that I was impressed by the seriousness from which you approached this thread.
I will try to reciprocate in my future responses to you.

 

[lcharles]

The Eagle elevator is headed down...Keep you eyes open, in a little while you'll see the lower level.

Skins= Hanging out in the lobby. ( jason campbell is afraid of elevators)

Giants= On the elevator, but Coughlin has pushed every button and it still won't move.:laugh2:

Cowboys= Taking the stairs. Parcells said it built character. We are not there yet, but we are still climbing. May take a while. No...wait, Wade found the elevator....we must hope now that SOB don't mess up and push the down button.

 

[jobberone]

Explanation/clarification how "Traditionally" the Eagles have been an underrated team

The Eagles are, and probably will remain underrated until we win a Superbowl. I need not remind you about the "empty trophy case," the injury proneness, and many other underrated comments ...not to mention the Philadelphia curse that seems to have subsided through the years for some reason.

Eagles management have been quite frugal in previous years, to sign major longevity contracts to players (e.g., T.O., Stallworth, Corey Simon, Montgomery, etc). Hence, key players who have added the cohesiveness to our team have been released under FA acquisitions to other teams. In-turn, the Eagles have had to startall over in the rebuilding process.

Underrated is not always a negative perspective. More often than not, the Eagles are underestimated because opponents feel that they do not have the depth required to fill-in when positions are vacated due to injuries, or other reasons.

Jim Johnson would probably make one hellofva good headcoach somewhere, but we are fortunate to have him as a defensive coordinator. His blitz pakages help neutralize opponent teams from exploiting any weaknesses that actually might exist.

Finally (for the sake of brevity) our pass/run ratio has leaned all the way to one side of the scale until last year, under Marty's coaching. Even now, many believe that Tony Hunt and Nasty Nate (receently signed to a 4-year contract, have absolutely nothing to do with our intent to cotinue to throw the ball more than we run for yardage).

Overrated? If so, it's through the eyes of the sports writers and the media... certainly not by fans anywhere.

I hope you view that as a legitimate response superpunk. I must say that I was impressed by the seriousness from which you approached this thread.
I will try to reciprocate in my future responses to you.

I take this to mean fans of the Eagles don't think they are overrated but underestimated.

I don't think that's so. They are only underestimated if you think they are the best in the league. I assume you must think that. Most of the media has the Eagles as one of the top NFC teams and has had them there the last few years. And they were thought of as SB contenders longer and have been considered the top team in the league at times. Certainly in the top five more than once. I don't see that as underestimating them or underrating them. They appear to be where they should be by and large. That's my take. And deservedly so. They have been winning and deserve to be rated near the top.

This year they are seen as being on the decline. McNabb's failure to win it all as well as how he's performed is justified IMO. Kearse the same. I don't think the Eagles are seen as being unable to win the big one like Dallas in the late 60s and early 70s. Doesn't feel or appear to be the same. They are just seen as not being good enough. That's different from being seen as a choking team although McNabb is seen that way by some. They just haven't been good enough although they have been very good.

The Eagles are seen as the favorites to repeat as NFC East champs. The Cowboys are favored by others but not as many. I don't see how this underrates us or you. You are what you are.

We'll see this year if Dallas doesn't unseat the Eagles. That is seen as very possible and even likely by more than a few. Again that's not underrating or underestimating the Eagles.

We'll see.

 

[aikemirv]

Cowboys are overated if Romo is not "the goods" and if Wades D does not deliver.

Cowboys underated if the opposite of the above is true. (WE WILL WIN THE EAST)

We are on par if one of the above holds true. Since the Eagles are favored by most that I have seen to win the East I don't really see how we are overated.

Giants will not be the same w/out Tiki, they will struggle unless the lights go on for Eli.

Commanders will still struggle with Campbell. His delivery is slow and their defense is undermanned on the line.

Eagles - well if Mcnabb comes back from his injury 100% and has mobility then I think they will fight with the Cowboys for the division. Without his mobility, I think he will struggle because his marginally talented receivers will have less time to get open. Their defense will be strong.