What NFCE Team can Best Defend Against TO!? ...

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KDWilliams85 said:
The Eagles may best be able to cover Terry Glenn and Patrick Crayton. However, Owens is in a field of his own. He can easily outjump and outplay any one of the NFC East DB's.

As for the Eagles front four, they can't help unless T.O. is getting a screen pass. Once the ball is in the air, there isn't much they can do about it.

They can't do much unless its a screen?

How about putting pressure on Bledsoe? How about making Bledsoe throw the ball sooner than he wants? How about making Bledsoe throw the ball away bec. no one is open yet? How about making Bledsoe throw in inaccurate bec. he is being chased? How about getting after the QB before TO can get open?

A good front four is a big factor in the passing game....
 

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A pass rush helps, but You can use a TE and back to help pick up the blitz and TO provides a big target for a quick pass and he can turn a 3 yard pass into a long gain.

I think you need a real good cb playing man to minimize TO's effectiveness as well as a pass rush. I think he does more damage against a zone. Didn't Atlanta do a decent job playing man on TO last year, and i think Denver contained him pretty well with man coverage.
 

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To me it is not a matter of who can best defend TO, now it is a matter of who can best defend Witten, Fasano and Glenn.

It is not like the Skins have not defended TO in the past, but when doing so it has cost them vs other WRs.

If teams concentrate on TO the more the better for the rest of our Offensive weapons.

The only thing to worry about is if our O-Line can stay healthy and protect bledsoe.
 

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It's really close between Philly and Washington.

I don't look at it from a CB vs. Owens perspective. I look at it from an entire defense against Dallas' offense perspective. If the offense stinks up the joint, 9 times out of 10 Owens will be a non-factor. If the offense plays well, then the majority of the time Owens was probably effective.

Against the 2 TE set, I like the cover abilities of Dawkins and Lewis over S. Taylor and Archuleta. However, I like the coverage abilities of the Washington LB's over the Philly LB's. I'd say that Brown and Springs are very close to being even and the same could be said for Rogers and Sheppard...although Sheppard has more experience.

In the end, I'd probably go with Washington since Dallas had great success running the ball against Philly in week 5 whereas Dallas hasn't run the ball well against Washington in the Gregg Williams era.


Rich...........
 

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Phoenix-Talon said:
I was just thinking that will be the first opportunity to defend against him since he played with us. Our coaches should have learned and know his strengths and his weaknesses; as well as His habits ...from an inside perspective.

Otherwise, I'll admit, you make a strong argument.

you can learn a player's strengths and weaknesses by playing against him, hell, watching film, you don't have the advantage just because he was a former teammate
 

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BrAinPaiNt said:
To me it is not a matter of who can best defend TO, now it is a matter of who can best defend Witten, Fasano and Glenn.

It is not like the Skins have not defended TO in the past, but when doing so it has cost them vs other WRs.

But then again, the 2004 Eagles were a completely different team then the 2006 Cowboys. McNabb is a much more mobile QB behind a better line. He could buy time to run through the list of targets out there.
Also, your looking at a WCO as opposed to Dallas' more traditional offense. TO hasn't played in a normal offense, where YAC isn't as big of a factor as in a WCO offense. I think, to a small degree, negate TO's biggest strength which is YAC. Don't get me wrong, he's a good receiver before YAC, but I think he's flourished in a WCO but he might not be as effective in a vertical passing attack.
As far as guarding the rest of the offense, that's why with every play, you take a risk. Your offense is pretty close to unguardable if you have all those receivers running routes at once (TO, Glenn, Crayton, Witten and Jones) and Bledsoe has time to throw. One of those guys will get open. So do you take a risk and drop people in coverage, hoping your line generates enough pressure to force a quick decision and Bledsoe won't recognize somebody whose open, or do you take a risk and blitz and hope that the blitz will force Bledsoe to miss somebody that was mismatched? One's just less of a risk.
As far as who would be better, I really do like Washington's chances against TO the most. Historically they have been effective against TO (they lost because the Eagles were NFC Champs and the Skins were below average). Also, the type of game that Shawn Springs plays and Gregg Williams coaches keeps people in position to contain big plays, especially YAC.
 

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SultanOfSix said:
The team with the best pash rush. A cornerback can only cover a good receiver for so long, and T.O. is one of the best.

The Eagles used to a have a great one, but they're not as good as they used to be. The Commanders have to disguise blitzes in order to generate one. Although plausible, this will be difficult to do with the weapons we now have. The Giants have the best front four out of the three teams, so I'll go with the latter.

:hammer:
 

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The Eagles know Owens and Owens knows the Eagles. Push. I Dont think the Eagles can double team TO, because Glenn will make Litto his little **** again. I have a feeling Terrells biggest games will be against the Eagles because of his intense anger towards the organization.

Id go with Washington. I think they contain TO, but get killed by Julius.
 

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I was curious about this magical formula Commanders fans are touting about stopping Terrell Owens. Decided to do a little research and came up with the following.

2005

Week 9, 11/6/05, Commanders over Eagles 17-10, Owens DNP.

Week 17, 1/1/06, Commanders over Eagles, 31-20, Owens DNP.



2004

Week 11, 11/21/04, Eagles over Commanders, 28-6, Owens...2 rec. for 24 yards & 1 TD.

Week 14, 12/12/04, Eagles over Commanders, 17-14, Owens...6 rec. for 46 yards.


2003

Commanders & 49ers DNP each other.


2002

Week 3, 9/22/02, 49ers over Commanders, 20-10, Owens...2 rec. for 33 yards, 1 rush for 38 yard TD.



What good is it to contain the guy if all you ever do when you face his team is lose?

In fairness I decided your boasts needed a proper audience. So, I've compiled several of them with the best smack talk from the various threads. I'm sending them to his manager/publicist for her to let him see them. I figure he probably needs more motivation to get past this stifling scheme.

For the record, I'll take 2 receptions for 24 yards and 0 TDs every time if it means your stilfing containment on him means the rest of the team takes you to the woodshed.

Ciao.
 

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Hostile said:
I was curious about this magical formula Commanders fans are touting about stopping Terrell Owens. Decided to do a little research and came up with the following.

2005

Week 9, 11/6/05, Commanders over Eagles 17-10, Owens DNP.

Week 17, 1/1/06, Commanders over Eagles, 31-20, Owens DNP.



2004

Week 11, 11/21/04, Eagles over Commanders, 28-6, Owens...2 rec. for 24 yards & 1 TD.

Week 14, 12/12/04, Eagles over Commanders, 17-14, Owens...6 rec. for 46 yards.


2003

Commanders & 49ers DNP each other.


2002

Week 3, 9/22/02, 49ers over Commanders, 20-10, Owens...2 rec. for 33 yards, 1 rush for 38 yard TD.



What good is it to contain the guy if all you ever do when you face his team is lose?

In fairness I decided your boasts needed a proper audience. So, I've compiled several of them with the best smack talk from the various threads. I'm sending them to his manager/publicist for her to let him see them. I figure he probably needs more motivation to get past this stifling scheme.

For the record, I'll take 2 receptions for 24 yards and 0 TDs every time if it means your stilfing containment on him means the rest of the team takes you to the woodshed.

Ciao.

In 2004 the Eagles were a flat out better team then us.

In 2002 we were a shell of what we are now, and the 49ers were a playoff team.

I agree, it means nothing if you don't win the game. Which is why I haven't bragged about stopping TO.
 

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Someone care to explain to me how DeAngelo Hall got a ton of press for "shutting down" Owens to 7 catches for 112 yards or whatever it was....


And we got NONE for allowing 5 for 50 yards?
 

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RiggoForever said:
In 2004 the Eagles were a flat out better team then us.

This excuses allowing Stinkston to drop 200 yards on the number 3 defense in two games?
 

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As long as Glenn, Crayton, Witten, Fasano and Jones are producing I'm not really concerned about which team can slow down or shut down TO. If a team is putting their best cover man on TO or using doubles on TO then it should open the door for others. At the end of the game I don't care if TO gets 1 catch as long as we win the game.
 

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Plus, the game in week 2 is prime time, his debut in Dallas, and I'm sure Parcells is going to be in his ear about how hes struggled against the Commanders anyways.

I'd expect nothing but a fired up TO.

Thing is, every defense he faces is going to be fired up to stop him as well.

Should be interesting to say the least.
 

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superpunk said:
This excuses allowing Stinkston to drop 200 yards on the number 3 defense in two games?

Your right, Smoot couldn't cover Pinkston worth a lick. I'd be lying if I didn't say I was concerned about Glenn as a number 2 receiver.
 

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RiggoForever said:
Plus, the game in week 2 is prime time, his debut in Dallas, and I'm sure Parcells is going to be in his ear about how hes struggled against the Commanders anyways.

I'd expect nothing but a fired up TO.

Thing is, every defense he faces is going to be fired up to stop him as well.

Should be interesting to say the least.

I hope they are fired up to stop him because Dallas has other weapons to go to. I would love to see Glenn get the man on man coverage any day of week.
 

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Hostile said:
I was curious about this magical formula Commanders fans are touting about stopping Terrell Owens. Decided to do a little research and came up with the following.

2005

Week 9, 11/6/05, Commanders over Eagles 17-10, Owens DNP.

Week 17, 1/1/06, Commanders over Eagles, 31-20, Owens DNP.



2004

Week 11, 11/21/04, Eagles over Commanders, 28-6, Owens...2 rec. for 24 yards & 1 TD.

Week 14, 12/12/04, Eagles over Commanders, 17-14, Owens...6 rec. for 46 yards.


2003

Commanders & 49ers DNP each other.


2002

Week 3, 9/22/02, 49ers over Commanders, 20-10, Owens...2 rec. for 33 yards, 1 rush for 38 yard TD.



What good is it to contain the guy if all you ever do when you face his team is lose?

In fairness I decided your boasts needed a proper audience. So, I've compiled several of them with the best smack talk from the various threads. I'm sending them to his manager/publicist for her to let him see them. I figure he probably needs more motivation to get past this stifling scheme.

For the record, I'll take 2 receptions for 24 yards and 0 TDs every time if it means your stilfing containment on him means the rest of the team takes you to the woodshed. Ciao.

You are dangerous Hos! Now that's what I call research and analysis!
 
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