What starter needs HAVE to be filled?

[Cowboyny]

I hear ya, but Steele was an UDFA playing like a pro bowler before injury. I just feel like having to invest 3 1st rounders in the OL is poor roster management.

Good point on Dowdle - still think we can find someone very solid in rounds 3-5.

Yea man, bummer the DT class is underwhelming. I love the idea of Murphy or Newton at 24 but not a lot of other impact guys. Maybe the kid from A&M or FSU would be good run pluggers.

I really wanted to address DT in fa to avoid this. When was the last time we had even a above average DT?

 

[Carson]

I really wanted to address DT in fa to avoid this. When was the last time we had even an above average DT?

Jay Ratliff!

 

[Cowboyny]

Jay Ratliff!

20 some years ago!

 

[Carson]

20 some years ago!

We had a good run there with some decent DTs. Glover, Ferguson, Ratliff, Hatcher. Surprised they shy away from making it a focus.

 

[InPhiltraitor]

The way the Cowboys handled this offseason, they just cannot go into the draft to take the best player available. With limited picks and so many needs, unfortunately this is set up for a need draft, which usually gets teams in trouble. When you look at the entire starting roster, what starter needs do they have to fill?

You could view this as being a good year to take BPA based on how the offseason has been handled. At 24 there’s a possibility that the best DT in draft falls to you, a receiver talent like BTJ is available, the top LB should still be on the board, maybe JPJ or Barton are there, and I’d expect at least a trio of OT possibilities could be had.

To your point though, I think the preference for the first selection will weigh heavily in favor of taking an O-line representative. What will be intriguing is if the Centers are off the board will the Cowboys genuinely take BPA or stay the pick a position group course by selecting a potential high-upside tackle like a Mims or Guyton, all the while accepting that immediate plug and play success is not likely. The closer we get to the draft, the more I believe this will be the course pending the availability of JPJ or Barton @ 24. I really don’t believe the Cowboys want to ask their potential All-Pro Guard to kick out to tackle.

I think their strategy will be a hybrid of need and BPA. The first round may be somewhat in favor of an O-line selection, but after that, I’d expect we see them play their board per BPA. However, I’m sure the guys have a few players that if they’re there at 24, they take them, and they’ll figure out the rest as they go.

 

[TheDank]

Technically we have Bass and…. Hoffman for LG and C.

LB we have Kendricks

NT we have Mazi

3T we have Osa

LT we have Tyler

RB We have no one on the roster that gives me a shred of hope. Although unless they move Bass to C I really don’t like going into the season with Hoffman as the unquestioned starter. I’d also love to keep Tyler at LG. Order of need probably RB, C, LT. But for draft position required to get a good one I’d probably reverse that order.

 

[Creeper]

I think the urgency is LT, DT, LB, RB, WR, DE, and C. LT is probably most urgent especially if they have no interest in moving Tyler Smith to LT. I think Hoffman might be okay at C if they fail to get one in the draft.

They are really weak at DT, and DE for that matter. LB too.

I have to say it has been a long time since Dallas needed so much in 1 draft. They will be lucky if they get 2 starters in this draft though, although getting a RB should not be difficult.

 

[Carson]

I think the urgency is LT, DT, LB, RB, WR, DE, and C. LT is probably most urgent especially if they have no interest in moving Tyler Smith to LT. I think Hoffman might be okay at C if they fail to get one in the draft.

They are really weak at DT, and DE for that matter. LB too.

I have to say it has been a long time since Dallas needed so much in 1 draft. They will be lucky if they get 2 starters in this draft though, although getting a RB should not be difficult.

They need starters at

LT or C (Smith kicks to LT if they got C. Center if they go LT in round 1)

RB likely in Round 2.

OLB

The rest should they be able to fill as depth with later picks / later cuts.

 

[Cowboyny]

You could view this as being a good year to take BPA based on how the offseason has been handled. At 24 there’s a possibility that the best DT in draft falls to you, a receiver talent like BTJ is available, the top LB should still be on the board, maybe JPJ or Barton are there, and I’d expect at least a trio of OT possibilities could be had.

To your point though, I think the preference for the first selection will weigh heavily in favor of taking an O-line representative. What will be intriguing is if the Centers are off the board will the Cowboys genuinely take BPA or stay the pick a position group course by selecting a potential high-upside tackle like a Mims or Guyton, all the while accepting that immediate plug and play success is not likely. The closer we get to the draft, the more I believe this will be the course pending the availability of JPJ or Barton @ 24. I really don’t believe the Cowboys want to ask their potential All-Pro Guard to kick out to tackle.

I think their strategy will be a hybrid of need and BPA. The first round may be somewhat in favor of an O-line selection, but after that, I’d expect we see them play their board per BPA. However, I’m sure the guys have a few players that if they’re there at 24, they take them, and they’ll figure out the rest as they go.

If you believe the smoke Kinsley the BYU Tackle is going to be their selection. Heard they really like the player, but even like him more if they can trade back. He is in that Mims/Guyton category, where he might not be ready day 1. However, many thought the same about Tyler and they threw him into the fire and he didn't embarrass himself. This allows Tyler to stay inside at Guard and doesn't force the Cowboys to play two young players next to each other. They know he can play on the left side cause he has done it on the college level, unlike Mims/Guyton. Definitely a risky pick, but I understand their mindset.

There are more and more reports that JPJ is going to be a medical red flagged player. Is he off the Cowboys board? We know Barton is a player they also like, but he probably is long gone at 24, which leads us to those raw Tackles, Frazier or BPA.

Week away, I think 1 of these 3 will be their 1st rd pick. As for the rest of the draft, do believe they will be more bpa over need, although they are hunting both running back and linebacker. When you look at the visitors, they have prepared themselves if they have to take someone late in those areas.

 

[cnuball21]

I really wanted to address DT in fa to avoid this. When was the last time we had even an above average DT?

That was my biggest want in FA too…awesome options and we did nothing!

 

[cnuball21]

If you believe the smoke Kinsley the BYU Tackle is going to be their selection. Heard they really like the player, but even like him more if they can trade back. He is in that Mims/Guyton category, where he might not be ready day 1. However, many thought the same about Tyler and they threw him into the fire and he didn't embarrass himself. This allows Tyler to stay inside at Guard and doesn't force the Cowboys to play two young players next to each other. They know he can play on the left side cause he has done it on the college level, unlike Mims/Guyton. Definitely a risky pick, but I understand their mindset.

There are more and more reports that JPJ is going to be a medical red flagged player. Is he off the Cowboys board? We know Barton is a player they also like, but he probably is long gone at 24, which leads us to those raw Tackles, Frazier or BPA.

Week away, I think 1 of these 3 will be their 1st rd pick. As for the rest of the draft, do believe they will be more bpa over need, although they are hunting both running back and linebacker. When you look at the visitors, they have prepared themselves if they have to take someone late in those areas.

Yea I think it’s gonna be Guyton or Kingsley…I don’t love either but would prefer Guyton bc Kingsley is atrocious as a run blocker.

Guyton is only average in that regard as well but has similar tools to improve and has a higher pass pro ceiling…only if the off field stuff you brought up isn’t an issue.

 

[cnuball21]

No I will check him out. It is also important that we get an extra top 100 pick.

That Yale OT is a freaking dude…obviously just a monster jump in competition but I think he’s on par with the round 2 guys like Paul.

 

[Cowboyny]

Technically we have Bass and…. Hoffman for LG and C.

LB we have Kendricks

NT we have Mazi

3T we have Osa

LT we have Tyler

RB We have no one on the roster that gives me a shred of hope. Although unless they move Bass to C I really don’t like going into the season with Hoffman as the unquestioned starter. I’d also love to keep Tyler at LG. Order of need probably RB, C, LT. But for draft position required to get a good one I’d probably reverse that order.

In my opinion, their best option would be keeping Tyler at Guard and then either drafting a Tackle or Center. This will allow not to have two young players next to each other.

 

[Cowboyny]

Yea I think it’s gonna be Guyton or Kingsley…I don’t love either but would prefer Guyton bc Kingsley is atrocious as a run blocker.

Guyton is only average in that regard as well but has similar tools to improve and has a higher pass pro ceiling…only if the off field stuff you brought up isn’t an issue.

All the smoke right now is Kingsley. Both he and Guyton are very similar prospects. Good pass protectors, but inconsistent run blockers. Think they might view Kinsley higher due to his experience playing left tackle, where Guyton is more of a projection. Both could use a year to develop, but if they threw Tyler into the fire, they are going to do the same. I do like the idea of Tyler staying at Guard and not having two young lineman playing side by side.

 

[Cowboyny]

That Yale OT is a freaking dude…obviously just a monster jump in competition but I think he’s on par with the round 2 guys like Paul.

Dane has him at 87 on his big board, which is our 3rd rd pick. He reportedly has that "want to be great" trait by going outside to get help from a former Tackle to help improve his game, like Tyler did with Duke prior to ever playing a snap.

Yes, must prove he can handle the step up in competition, also coming back from major injury, where he looks like a great red shirt prospect to develop for a season before he hits the field. If not the injury, he probably would be a 2nd rd prospect.

 

[Aven8]

RB, LB, Oline.

 

[cnuball21]

All the smoke right now is Kingsley. Both he and Guyton are very similar prospects. Good pass protectors, but inconsistent run blockers. Think they might view Kinsley higher due to his experience playing left tackle, where Guyton is more of a projection. Both could use a year to develop, but if they threw Tyler into the fire, they are going to do the same. I do like the idea of Tyler staying at Guard and not having two young lineman playing side by side.

Yea, I get the concerns around moving from RT to LT. We saw Tyron do it with no issues but he was a top pick.

If their preference is someone with more LT exp I’d rather just wait until the 2nd. But I have no issues in moving someone from right to left as long as the athleticism is there.

 

[Carson]

Yea, I get the concerns around moving from RT to LT. We saw Tyron do it with no issues but he was a top pick.

If their preference is someone with more LT exp I’d rather just wait until the 2nd. But I have no issues in moving someone from right to left as long as the athleticism is there.

Tyron played some LT at USC so it was a completely foreign concept. I don’t think Guyton plays LT in college / maybe in high school

 

[Cowboyny]

Yea, I get the concerns around moving from RT to LT. We saw Tyron do it with no issues but he was a top pick.

If their preference is someone with more LT exp I’d rather just wait until the 2nd. But I have no issues in moving someone from right to left as long as the athleticism is there.

It takes time to get used to doing everything the other way, remember Tyron spent his entire rookie season on the right side. Honestly, I do not see much of a difference in Mims, Guyton, Kinsley they all are traits based prospects that need some development, especially in the run game. Question is, do you take the 7-9 tackle or the #1 or #2 Center? I would lean more towards Center as they have to improve their run game and there are a few LT fa's still on the open market, but no centers: Bakhtari, Becton, Donovan Smith, etc. Outside of Connor Williams really no fa Centers worth signing.

 

[Malhavoc]

I’m taking JPJ before both Kingsley and Guyton. Heck I would take Morgan before both.