What the Cowboys can expect from Kelvin Joseph in 2022

Pass2Run

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This while trying to also start a rapping career. This kinda highlights my point about immaturity. Let me ask you this .......we cut former 1st rounder Taco Charlton after only two years, the same as you are suggesting for KJ. My question........Is KJ as bad as Taco?


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taco_Charlton

Yeah, because it's so bizarre for an NFL player to have a rap career as a side gig/hobby.



That, in itself, isn't necessarily a bad thing. Yet some of you use that against him.
 

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Charleton was an overevaluation of talent and the same thing as Marcus Spears, not even one of the best players on a great defense. Same with Claiborne. Lot easier to cover when your DL is ripping up the pocket,

They get seduced by a bunch of 4-5 stars all playing on the same team and don't show enough consideration to that dynamic. There are going to be some busts off the LSU, AL and UGA national champs teams.

Remember when you took your first career job out of college? You had to learn how to be a professional, the dos, don'ts and boundaries. These kids on the hand are told/taught to just be themselves. I imagine that.....19/20 year old millionaire being himself......lol. More times than not, you're getting the same character he was raised with.
 

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That, in itself, isn't necessarily a bad thing. Yet some of you use that against him.

Not using it against him at all......just the fact he only played 20 career college games alone with a rapping career suggests we may have a be a little patience.
 

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If he told the police who the shooter was, he better have a ton of bodyguards everywhere he goes.

Possibly. Witnesses inform on criminals every day. Retribution is not usually that high on the list of things the criminals have to worry about. I write up crime articles a lot, and most of the time there are multiple witnesses used to build a case before an arrest is made (unless the arrest is made on the spot).

The key issue would be whether Joseph had anything to do with the shooting, such as essentially telling the shooters to do it. It would seem by now that if he did that the shooters would have said something resulting in his arrest, though ... unless, of course, from a cynical standpoint, he's paying them to be quiet about it.

I think the fact that he already has not been charged as an accessory means there's been nothing said to contradict his account. The arrest of the other two happened fairly quickly, so that bodes well for him that police had reasonable cause to believe they were the ones who committed the crime.

If it's capital murder, they will be held without bail until they are tried, which could take up to a couple of years if Texas courts move as slowly as the ones here do. Then, if they are convicted, they won't be out of jail for quite a long time. So unless they get someone on the outside to go after Joseph, then revenge isn't likely ... unless Joseph is hanging out with the shooters' posse and one of them decides to take revenge for them.
 

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I think the fact that he already has not been charged as an accessory means there's been nothing said to contradict his account. The arrest of the other two happened fairly quickly, so that bodes well for him that police had reasonable cause to believe they were the ones who committed the crime.

+1 .......
 

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Why should the team wait until he’s suspended to make a move? Good front offices don’t use hope as a strategy. With a suspension hanging over a player’s head, seems to me it would make sense to be prepared ahead of time- not wait until it happens.
I completely agree. 100%. I wish this front office was more proactive instead of reactive, especially about KJ.
 

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Possibly. Witnesses inform on criminals every day. Retribution is not usually that high on the list of things the criminals have to worry about. I write up crime articles a lot, and most of the time there are multiple witnesses used to build a case before an arrest is made (unless the arrest is made on the spot).

The key issue would be whether Joseph had anything to do with the shooting, such as essentially telling the shooters to do it. It would seem by now that if he did that the shooters would have said something resulting in his arrest, though ... unless, of course, from a cynical standpoint, he's paying them to be quiet about it.

I think the fact that he already has not been charged as an accessory means there's been nothing said to contradict his account. The arrest of the other two happened fairly quickly, so that bodes well for him that police had reasonable cause to believe they were the ones who committed the crime.

If it's capital murder, they will be held without bail until they are tried, which could take up to a couple of years if Texas courts move as slowly as the ones here do. Then, if they are convicted, they won't be out of jail for quite a long time. So unless they get someone on the outside to go after Joseph, then revenge isn't likely ... unless Joseph is hanging out with the shooters' posse and one of them decides to take revenge for them.

As of today, the suspects are still in jail as well. Aries Jones bond is set at $250,000, which means nobody has sprung the shooters free from jail.
 

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As of today, the suspects are still in jail as well. Aries Jones bond is set at $250,000, which means nobody has sprung the shooters free from jail.

I'm surprised they even have a bond. Here, if you are charged with murder, you're pretty much automatically held without bond. I haven't looked at their exact charges, though. If it's first-degree instead of capital murder, then I can see them being given a bond.
 

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I’m not convinced Kelvin Joseph will make the final 53. With the baggage he brings he’s going to have to look pretty darn good or the Cowboys may move on.
 
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