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A great coach devises a game plan weekly designed to take away the opposing teams strength. Garrett has never done this. A great coach also teaches.
I still don't know who puts the game plan in place for this franchise. Garrett does have a place here but it's not on the sidelines. The man deserves no respect. Because he demands no respect. That's what bothers me most about him. How many years and he finally throws a flag at a referee. First time he ever showed any kind of moxie in my opinion. We all know why he's here. Does he really know how to manipulate Jerry without Jerry knowing it
 

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Scandrick in an interview recently discussed that JG is a much different character than what fans "think" they see. If anyone knows Scandrick, they know he says it like it is and doesn't sugar-coat anything.
 

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Here me out here, I know every scenario has been discussed in what is wrong with our boys over the last 20 plus years but at the end of the day more than anything doesn't it come down to having a head coach that is allowed to make decisions like cutting players and signing their own coaches?

Thanks for the post.

There are a lot of assumptions and speculation. What I am presenting is NOT coaching preferences. I am only presenting facts.

Are people certain that Garrett isn't picking his own staff? Garrett speaking about Richard tells me otherwise (For one example).

Regarding Garrett:

I keep hearing the famous quote from Bill Parcells "you are what your record says you are". ... over and over.

Ironically:

-This may surprise some people. But Jason Garrett has a higher winning percentage than the man who made that statement (Bill Parcells).

-It will surprise more people that Garrett has a higher winning percentage than Jimmy Johnson.

Season Win %:

Garrett: .576
Parcells: .569
J. Johnson: .556

Playoffs/SBs:

-Parcells had two "one and done" wildcard playoff losses in Dallas. Did that make him a bad coach? Of course not, he was a great coach and has the accolades to prove it!

-Jimmy couldn't get past the Divisional round for 3 consecutive seasons in Miami. Did that make him a bad coach? Just the opposite, Jimmy was a great coach and also has the accolades that prove it!

-Garrett currently has 2 wildcard playoff wins and 3 divisional playoff appearances in the last five years. He has yet to get the SB accolade, but I say he finally has everything on track to do so!

Take Belichick for example: He traded Bennett away for a late pick even though he is a very solid player because of incompatibility and conformations. The players in Patriot land know they have to play at a very high level each and every game or they will be held accountable.

Forget scheme for a second and all the incessant clapping that goes on with Garrett, the bottom line is he has no real power and therein lies the issue right? The Country Club atmosphere that we all know exist is as real as death and taxes. So what can happen to fix it? Like we've all said in the past it's going to take the Jone's turning over the power to a coach whom is not only talented but also one who sets a high standard of accountability. Why do we think Zeke played so lackluster most of the season thus far? Why? Because of Garrett's authority level is zilch that is why...

These players have no real fear and they get sucked into the void of comfort. It's no wonder that coaches like Jimmy Johnson and Bill Belichick and even Parcells built winning programs! if you played or play for them you either give give it your all or you are no longer wanted. Garrett is too busy trying to be best friends with most of these players hoping that they're going to win it all for Gipper..

You may want to look at the David Irving interview in the link below:

Per this interview (I know, small sample size), but for now:

-Garrett told him he should quit and go smoke whatever he wanted.
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Garrett tired of Irving’s marijuana usage, Irving said.

“He told me I should just quit, smoke all the weed I want, the team didn’t need me,” Irving told USA TODAY Sports in a wide-ranging phone interview Thursday. “I’m a distraction to the team.

Jerry understood him. Then Garrett gives a politically correct speech to the media. The type the fans usually hear.

Link: https://www.usatoday.com/story/spor...s-cowboys-jason-garrett-marijuana/3181258002/
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Are some certain that there is no accountability? That players get sucked into comfort and this is a country club atmosphere? The opposite may be true.

Contrary to opinion, it IS GARRETT holding players accountable.

Bottom line is we've been caught up in scheme and game planning quite a bit lately! The sad truth of the matter is that we're nothing but a Circus with dysfunctional ring leaders! Our only chance of getting further in the playoffs is sheer luck and some help from the refs. This win against Philly was a band-aid, so how much longer can this front office keep putting lipstick on a pig?

-Luck? "Luck is the proper meeting of preparation and circumstance". - Earl Nightingale.

-Help from the Refs? You mean like Dez's catch vs the Packers, that was not a catch, but is a catch now?

Well, the refs actually looked fair and impartial in the Packers/Chiefs game last night. So, I hope to see more of that in the playoffs if the Cowboys meet the Packers again..

Regarding coaching style:

I know, everyone has an opinion. The differences of opinion in a lot of threads is coaching STYLE. You should read up on this same topic from fans of almost every NFL team. Quick research will do the trick.

I like restaurant A. And someone else likes Restaurant B. But my friend tells me Restaurant C is the best.

That just means there are 3 really good restaurants.

Kinda the same with coaching styles and player preferences.
 

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Here me out here, I know every scenario has been discussed in what is wrong with our boys over the last 20 plus years but at the end of the day more than anything doesn't it come down to having a head coach that is allowed to make decisions like cutting players and signing their own coaches?

Take Belichick for example: He traded Bennett away for a late pick even though he is a very solid player because of incompatibility and conformations. The players in Patriot land know they have to play at a very high level each and every game or they will be held accountable.

Forget scheme for a second and all the incessant clapping that goes on with Garrett, the bottom line is he has no real power and therein lies the issue right? The Country Club atmosphere that we all know exist is as real as death and taxes. So what can happen to fix it? Like we've all said in the past it's going to take the Jone's turning over the power to a coach whom is not only talented but also one who sets a high standard of accountability. Why do we think Zeke played so lackluster most of the season thus far? Why? Because of Garrett's authority level is zilch that is why...

These players have no real fear and they get sucked into the void of comfort. It's no wonder that coaches like Jimmy Johnson and Bill Belichick and even Parcells built winning programs! if you played or play for them you either give give it your all or you are no longer wanted. Garrett is too busy trying to be best friends with most of these players hoping that they're going to win it all for Gipper..

Bottom line is we've been caught up in scheme and game planning quite a bit lately! The sad truth of the matter is that we're nothing but a Circus with dysfunctional ring leaders! Our only chance of getting further in the playoffs is sheer luck and some help from the refs. This win against Philly was a band-aid, so how much longer can this front office keep putting lipstick on a pig?
Unfortunately, Bill Belichicks don't grow on trees. No current coach can compare to him. I'd love to have Sean Payton though, he would definitely be an upgrade. The Saints would have to win the Superbowl, Brees to retire, and Payton come over. Only way I see that happening.
 

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Thanks for the post.

There are a lot of assumptions and speculation. What I am presenting is NOT coaching preferences. I am only presenting facts.

Are people certain that Garrett isn't picking his own staff? Garrett speaking about Richard tells me otherwise (For one example).

Regarding Garrett:

I keep hearing the famous quote from Bill Parcells "you are what your record says you are". ... over and over.

Ironically:

-This may surprise some people. But Jason Garrett has a higher winning percentage than the man who made that statement (Bill Parcells).

-It will surprise more people that Garrett has a higher winning percentage than Jimmy Johnson.

Season Win %:

Garrett: .576
Parcells: .569
J. Johnson: .556

Playoffs/SBs:

-Parcells had two "one and done" wildcard playoff losses in Dallas. Did that make him a bad coach? Of course not, he was a great coach and has the accolades to prove it!

-Jimmy couldn't get past the Divisional round for 3 consecutive seasons in Miami. Did that make him a bad coach? Just the opposite, Jimmy was a great coach and also has the accolades that prove it!

-Garrett currently has 2 wildcard playoff wins and 3 divisional playoff appearances in the last five years. He has yet to get the SB accolade, but I say he finally has everything on track to do so!



You may want to look at the David Irving interview in the link below:

Per this interview (I know, small sample size), but for now:

-Garrett told him he should quit and go smoke whatever he wanted.
___________________________________
Garrett tired of Irving’s marijuana usage, Irving said.

“He told me I should just quit, smoke all the weed I want, the team didn’t need me,” Irving told USA TODAY Sports in a wide-ranging phone interview Thursday. “I’m a distraction to the team.

Jerry understood him. Then Garrett gives a politically correct speech to the media. The type the fans usually hear.

Link: https://www.usatoday.com/story/spor...s-cowboys-jason-garrett-marijuana/3181258002/
___________________________________

Are some certain that there is no accountability? That players get sucked into comfort and this is a country club atmosphere? The opposite may be true.

Contrary to opinion, it IS GARRETT holding players accountable.



-Luck? "Luck is the proper meeting of preparation and circumstance". - Earl Nightingale.

-Help from the Refs? You mean like Dez's catch vs the Packers, that was not a catch, but is a catch now?

Well, the refs actually looked fair and impartial in the Packers/Chiefs game last night. So, I hope to see more of that in the playoffs if the Cowboys meet the Packers again..

Regarding coaching style:

I know, everyone has an opinion. The differences of opinion in a lot of threads is coaching STYLE. You should read up on this same topic from fans of almost every NFL team. Quick research will do the trick.

I like restaurant A. And someone else likes Restaurant B. But my friend tells me Restaurant C is the best.

That just means there are 3 really good restaurants.

Kinda the same with coaching styles and player preferences.


I think you're missing my point or my intentions. Garrett has had 9 years to get it right or make progress and at this point he is what he is right? He is a coach that can't get it done in big games against great coaches.
Forget scheme, numbers ETC, it comes down to the fact that Garrett not only isn't good enough as a head coach but he also lacks any real power to do what he sees fit for the team.

My "ball busting" comment was a bit overboard but we do indeed need a coach with ultimate control over things if we ever want to see progress. Do I believe that Jerry could eventually get lucky doing things his way? Yes, but it's going to take a head coach that allows brilliant schemes to be implemented to match our talent. The biggest problem with the country club atmosphere is that the players get comfy and settled when the fans and media are sniffing their jocks, and they only seem to rise up when everyone, I mean everyone are hating on them. If we start to win and look like we've turned a corner, the wheels always fall out in dramatic fashion. This falls on the head coach and why I brought up needing "ball busting" methods at this point in time.
 

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Garret is not going anywhere in the next 3-5 years. These threads need to stop
not entiry true but hes definitely not going anywhere in season, so yes I agree the 17 open Garett needs to go posts are useless waste of space..he will be here until the last game this season..
 

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Here me out here, I know every scenario has been discussed in what is wrong with our boys over the last 20 plus years but at the end of the day more than anything doesn't it come down to having a head coach that is allowed to make decisions like cutting players and signing their own coaches?

Take Belichick for example: He traded Bennett away for a late pick even though he is a very solid player because of incompatibility and conformations. The players in Patriot land know they have to play at a very high level each and every game or they will be held accountable.

Forget scheme for a second and all the incessant clapping that goes on with Garrett, the bottom line is he has no real power and therein lies the issue right? The Country Club atmosphere that we all know exist is as real as death and taxes. So what can happen to fix it? Like we've all said in the past it's going to take the Jone's turning over the power to a coach whom is not only talented but also one who sets a high standard of accountability. Why do we think Zeke played so lackluster most of the season thus far? Why? Because of Garrett's authority level is zilch that is why...

These players have no real fear and they get sucked into the void of comfort. It's no wonder that coaches like Jimmy Johnson and Bill Belichick and even Parcells built winning programs! if you played or play for them you either give give it your all or you are no longer wanted. Garrett is too busy trying to be best friends with most of these players hoping that they're going to win it all for Gipper..

Bottom line is we've been caught up in scheme and game planning quite a bit lately! The sad truth of the matter is that we're nothing but a Circus with dysfunctional ring leaders! Our only chance of getting further in the playoffs is sheer luck and some help from the refs. This win against Philly was a band-aid, so how much longer can this front office keep putting lipstick on a pig?

Fail.

You detailed issues that are not a big problem for Garrett and didn't even mention his biggest issues.
 

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I think you're missing my point or my intentions. Garrett has had 9 years to get it right or make progress and at this point he is what he is right? He is a coach that can't get it done in big games against great coaches.
Forget scheme, numbers ETC, it comes down to the fact that Garrett not only isn't good enough as a head coach but he also lacks any real power to do what he sees fit for the team.

My "ball busting" comment was a bit overboard but we do indeed need a coach with ultimate control over things if we ever want to see progress. Do I believe that Jerry could eventually get lucky doing things his way? Yes, but it's going to take a head coach that allows brilliant schemes to be implemented to match our talent. The biggest problem with the country club atmosphere is that the players get comfy and settled when the fans and media are sniffing their jocks, and they only seem to rise up when everyone, I mean everyone are hating on them. If we start to win and look like we've turned a corner, the wheels always fall out in dramatic fashion. This falls on the head coach and why I brought up needing "ball busting" methods at this point in time.


Jerry is a natural at catching isnt he ? lol
I wonder why they are throwing those, cant tell about helmet, but the hats are cowboy hats.
Levis stadium is SF ??

If we lost that is why they are tossing things at him.
 

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I don't think the biggest issue with JG is his authority, it is ability.

This team doesn't do the little things it takes to win and the coaches don't give them a tactical advantage when it comes to Xs and Os.
its both....jerry over rides and mocks around with the team too much. he traded for TO despite the coaching staff at the time not wanting him. he traded for roy Williams, despite the staff not wanting him, he traded for Galloway way back when and gave up two first round picks...his reasoning was with him and ismail we would be unstoppable (playing madden football), he signed greg hardy, a head case, even though the staff didn't want him.....him saying moore can come to me directly over garrett, is breaking lines of authority...either fire garrett or let him run his coaching staff.....no coach has survived jerry-meddling, or was happy with ala parcells...

its a fact that coaches have to live with in Dallas and it shuns a few from coming here.
 

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I still don't know who puts the game plan in place for this franchise. Garrett does have a place here but it's not on the sidelines. The man deserves no respect. Because he demands no respect. That's what bothers me most about him. How many years and he finally throws a flag at a referee. First time he ever showed any kind of moxie in my opinion. We all know why he's here. Does he really know how to manipulate Jerry without Jerry knowing it
so he should have thrown a flag at the referee to get additional penalty yards, so you feel good about what he did as a fan...that's the dumbest thing I have yet heard for reasons not to like garrett
 
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