What we need is a ball busting coach minus the puppet strings!

john van brocklin

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Here me out here, I know every scenario has been discussed in what is wrong with our boys over the last 20 plus years but at the end of the day more than anything doesn't it come down to having a head coach that is allowed to make decisions like cutting players and signing their own coaches?

Take Belichick for example: He traded Bennett away for a late pick even though he is a very solid player because of incompatibility and conformations. The players in Patriot land know they have to play at a very high level each and every game or they will be held accountable.

Forget scheme for a second and all the incessant clapping that goes on with Garrett, the bottom line is he has no real power and therein lies the issue right? The Country Club atmosphere that we all know exist is as real as death and taxes. So what can happen to fix it? Like we've all said in the past it's going to take the Jone's turning over the power to a coach whom is not only talented but also one who sets a high standard of accountability. Why do we think Zeke played so lackluster most of the season thus far? Why? Because of Garrett's authority level is zilch that is why...

These players have no real fear and they get sucked into the void of comfort. It's no wonder that coaches like Jimmy Johnson and Bill Belichick and even Parcells built winning programs! if you played or play for them you either give give it your all or you are no longer wanted. Garrett is too busy trying to be best friends with most of these players hoping that they're going to win it all for Gipper..

Bottom line is we've been caught up in scheme and game planning quite a bit lately! The sad truth of the matter is that we're nothing but a Circus with dysfunctional ring leaders! Our only chance of getting further in the playoffs is sheer luck and some help from the refs. This win against Philly was a band-aid, so how much longer can this front office keep putting lipstick on a pig?
What should happen and what will happen on this team are usually 2 different things.
 

CowboysFaninHouston

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The bottom line is. I have no problem you're not agreeing with my opinion. What did throw insults like the dumbest thing. I won't be disrespected if you want to discuss it like an intelligent person rather than a troll. I'd be glad to. I mean who do you think you are that you are so smart and your opinion that you put on the board is great. A read.many stupid things that you posted . do I say it.
sorry, I focus on real football.....can you imagine Bilicheck throwing a flag at a ref, so that the fans feel better that he showed emotion..... there is nothing else to complain about, than I want him to do more of that and cost his team yards in close crucial games...but hey I am happy he is yelling and throwing flags at referees...

if I say anything stupid, call me out...I don't get offended and we all have brain farts from time to time.....
 

CapnB

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Good points but holding players accountable is not just about letting them go, but also making them sit on the bench and showing them that as a coach you wear the pants and you demand maximum effort.. I just don't think it's in Garrett to be an arse most of the time and the players need someone they have to really be accountable toward in my opinion... Our team always believes their press clippings and this is a coaching issue.

If they are blaming JG and not the gm/owner of the team for letting them go, then im not sure how a HC can be looked at as not holding players accountable. He literally had them removed from the team. Not just take a seat and you cant play right now, how about you aren't playing on this team at all anymore.
 

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If it was a bottle of this he would catch it ....BET on it!


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He wouldn't catch it but it would be empty before it hit the ground
 

Doomsday101

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Good points but holding players accountable is not just about letting them go, but also making them sit on the bench and showing them that as a coach you wear the pants and you demand maximum effort.. I just don't think it's in Garrett to be an arse most of the time and the players need someone they have to really be accountable toward in my opinion... Our team always believes their press clippings and this is a coaching issue.

We have had guys loose playing time but I also know in this day and age of salary caps you are somewhat limited add to that a 48 man game day roster and he has put guys on inactive for not producing. According to those who cover the Cowboys and are there at the Star he is pretty rough on guys and says things he would never say to the press. I get it people want a SB as do I and if he and this team fail he very well could be gone at the end of the year. Myself I would rather see him and this team achieve their goals of winning it all. I think Garrett as the HC is an easy target but I also know when it took over as HC the OL looked like crap now it is one of the best in the league. He has taken a 4th rd QB who has helped win the east 2 out of his 1st 3 years. Looking at the roster I think we have a team who can compete but it falls to Garrett, the assistant coaches and of course the players to go out and get the job done.
 

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Bro, you missed my point, and I didn't stammer about anything. What I said was we need a coach who is free to make decisions! That would logically mean that Jones would have to change! Also, besides a coach whom is able to make good decisions we also need one who doesn't tollerate half arsed efforsts. You feel what I'm getting at here? Yes, we all know Jerry is the first problem, but garrett isn't bringing anything to table in terms of gameplanning which makes him irrelevant. Jerry probably will never change, but without a coach with authority and great skills we're obviously one in done in playoffs as usual, or if we're lucky we can win one game.

Post # 3,598,272 on why Dallas needs a strong coach to make decisions.

Same answer for the other 3,598,271 posts: It will never happen because the owner is satisfied with the current FO.
 

The Fonz

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Here me out here, I know every scenario has been discussed in what is wrong with our boys over the last 20 plus years but at the end of the day more than anything doesn't it come down to having a head coach that is allowed to make decisions like cutting players and signing their own coaches?

Take Belichick for example: He traded Bennett away for a late pick even though he is a very solid player because of incompatibility and conformations. The players in Patriot land know they have to play at a very high level each and every game or they will be held accountable.

Forget scheme for a second and all the incessant clapping that goes on with Garrett, the bottom line is he has no real power and therein lies the issue right? The Country Club atmosphere that we all know exist is as real as death and taxes. So what can happen to fix it? Like we've all said in the past it's going to take the Jone's turning over the power to a coach whom is not only talented but also one who sets a high standard of accountability. Why do we think Zeke played so lackluster most of the season thus far? Why? Because of Garrett's authority level is zilch that is why...

These players have no real fear and they get sucked into the void of comfort. It's no wonder that coaches like Jimmy Johnson and Bill Belichick and even Parcells built winning programs! if you played or play for them you either give give it your all or you are no longer wanted. Garrett is too busy trying to be best friends with most of these players hoping that they're going to win it all for Gipper..

Bottom line is we've been caught up in scheme and game planning quite a bit lately! The sad truth of the matter is that we're nothing but a Circus with dysfunctional ring leaders! Our only chance of getting further in the playoffs is sheer luck and some help from the refs. This win against Philly was a band-aid, so how much longer can this front office keep putting lipstick on a pig?
My type of a guy:welcome:
 

Hot_Toddy

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I think you're missing my point or my intentions. Garrett has had 9 years to get it right or make progress and at this point he is what he is right? He is a coach that can't get it done in big games against great coaches.
Forget scheme, numbers ETC, it comes down to the fact that Garrett not only isn't good enough as a head coach but he also lacks any real power to do what he sees fit for the team.

My "ball busting" comment was a bit overboard but we do indeed need a coach with ultimate control over things if we ever want to see progress. Do I believe that Jerry could eventually get lucky doing things his way? Yes, but it's going to take a head coach that allows brilliant schemes to be implemented to match our talent. The biggest problem with the country club atmosphere is that the players get comfy and settled when the fans and media are sniffing their jocks, and they only seem to rise up when everyone, I mean everyone are hating on them. If we start to win and look like we've turned a corner, the wheels always fall out in dramatic fashion. This falls on the head coach and why I brought up needing "ball busting" methods at this point in time.

The first paragraph, regarding the 9 year thing. Yes, there has been progress. And this year. Is the most talented we have been on both offense and defense.

I guess one could argue that Bill Parcells had a losing record in playoffs during his last 11 seasons. And that the game passed him by. Or that Parcells lost to superior coaches. Though that would NOT be an accurate assessment of Parcells. You have to look at the whole body of work.

Nothing wrong with the "ball busting" comment. I absolutely DO see your point.

But I would much rather have an owner who pays attention and tries for his team like Jerry. Did he meddle a bit. Possibly, but that would be speculation. I do see several parts of the organization shedding some bad habits from the past. And that is a good thing.

The Cowboys lost to the Rams in '92, the lions in '06, and the eagles in '07. All bad teams. That's why. Before the Jets game, I stated that we better not overlook the Jets while bringing up the Lions loss of '06. And they did overlook them imo. That happens with a lot of football teams, but I did not want it happening to the Dallas Cowboys that early in the season.

The Dallas Cowboys of this year are a great team all the way around. And I DO EXPECT the players to execute and bring everything they have 110% game in and game out. ABSOLUTELY NO MORE of the Cowboys shooting themselves in the foot which was perhaps the largest part of their 3 losses.

I've been down this road before. But it isn't the road most are talking about. THIS road feels more like the early 1992 Cowboys road. And I have not made such a statement since the '90's. Now 2007 was looking good, but I never said much, if anything. I saw chinks in the armor in 2007.

This years Dallas Cowboys have a stocked and full TEAM, from the top to the bottom, where everybody relies on each other. Kinda; Circa 1992.
 

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sorry, I focus on real football.....can you imagine Bilicheck throwing a flag at a ref, so that the fans feel better that he showed emotion..... there is nothing else to complain about, than I want him to do more of that and cost his team yards in close crucial games...but hey I am happy he is yelling and throwing flags at referees...

if I say anything stupid, call me out...I don't get offended and we all have brain farts from time to time.....
And you don't have a clue. Real football. I forgot more about this game than you'll ever know. Don't you think the team held more respect for him after he stood by them stood up for them. Seriously dude your tunnel-visioned. This has nothing to do with Bill Belichick and what he would do this is about Jason Garrett and what he never did. The first time I ever showed Moxie in my opinion. Different cultures different situation you may be correct but not about Jason. Took different situation . I usually don't disrespect people. But again I won't be disrespected either. You want to be treated with class then show some class.
 

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And you don't have a clue. Real football. I forgot more about this game than you'll ever know. Don't you think the team held more respect for him after he stood by them stood up for them. Seriously dude your tunnel-visioned. This has nothing to do with Bill Belichick and what he would do this is about Jason Garrett and what he never did. The first time I ever showed Moxie in my opinion. Different cultures different situation you may be correct but not about Jason. Took different situation . I usually don't disrespect people. But again I won't be disrespected either. You want to be treated with class then show some class.
good for you...done!
 

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A great coach devises a game plan weekly designed to take away the opposing teams strength. Garrett has never done this. A great coach also teaches.
Cowboys strength was taken away when Parcells retired, and Sean Payton went to the Saints. So you do not have to do any game planning to beat the Cowboys because they are already in the hole down a Head Coach and GM.
 

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good for you...done!
Next time you address me currently the derogatory sentences away. And we won't have an issue. Neither one of us deserve to be treated that way. Maybe you can disrespect other people like that but not me. What you should have said was. I totally disagree with your opinion. Because nobody's opinions are stupid. They just different
 

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Bro, you missed my point, and I didn't stammer about anything. What I said was we need a coach who is free to make decisions! That would logically mean that Jones would have to change! Also, besides a coach whom is able to make good decisions we also need one who doesn't tollerate half arsed efforsts. You feel what I'm getting at here? Yes, we all know Jerry is the first problem, but garrett isn't bringing anything to table in terms of gameplanning which makes him irrelevant. Jerry probably will never change, but without a coach with authority and great skills we're obviously one in done in playoffs as usual, or if we're lucky we can win one game.
You admitting the first bolded, makes your whole post irrelevant. The second bolded is made irrelevant by the first bolded.
 

CowboysFaninHouston

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Next time you address me currently the derogatory sentences away. And we won't have an issue. Neither one of us deserve to be treated that way. Maybe you can disrespect other people like that but not me. What you should have said was. I totally disagree with your opinion. Because nobody's opinions are stupid. They just different
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