What week did Flozel Adams get hurt and what was our record after that?

[Ashwynn]

but given the book on bledsoe he needs to be the scapegoat of why drew suddenly lost ALL protection from 1 player.

And what book would that be?????

Maybe the 'How to hate someone for no good reason' book.

 

[joseephuss]

Funny thing is we had our best rushing day when the big money man Rivera was out and of course Flo was out as well.

Not trying to be sarcastic here but I am really taking stuff down and saving all the excuses.

Let's recap all the excuses of the Big Bill Era:


2003
Quincy Sucked
Hambrick Sucked
Fluke Year
OL sucked
No pass rush
BP Still cleaning up 10 years worth of mess


2004
Vinny sucked
JJ/BP were passive in FA
Parcells didnt do anything because 2003 was a smoke screen
Jones went down
OL sucked
Zimmer had nobody to work with
BP Still cleaning up 10 years worth of mess


2005
Flo got injured
Henry got injured
Rivera needs time for back to heel
Petitti sucked
Jones recovering from ankle injury
OL sucked
Too many rookies
BP Still cleaning up 10 years worth of mess


I would like to open up a special forum on the board so we can all take bets on what the excuses will be next year....at least we can make some money off of it :

This one seems to popup each year, so I am gonna go with this one:
BP Still cleaning up 10 years worth of mess

As I stated, I am jumping off Bill Parcells' bangwagon next year if we have the same results.

Always next year were going to be good...always wait until next year....always we are 1 year away..... :

- Mike G.

Everything you listed are actually very good reasons why Dallas is not in the playoffs. The problem is that some of those reasons should have been fixed by now. Some of the other stuff has been fixed, which is why we can say that Dallas will be better next season. Even more stuff should hopefully be fixed for next season as well. Parcells will deserve more criticism next year if the team doesn't make the playoffs. The longer any coach is with a team and that team doesn't show progress, they will deserve more criticism.

 

[iceberg]

And what book would that be?????

Maybe the 'How to hate someone for no good reason' book.

i'll type slow - pay attention.

I DO NOT HATE NOR HAVE I EVER HATED DREW BLEDSOE.

got it?

i do not believe he's a good long term answer and i do not believe after 13 years he'll suddenly be the "lights out" qb his fanbase is waiting for. quite possibly ONLY since he became a cowboy and blinders went on.

 

[Maikeru-sama]

Everything you listed are actually very good reasons why Dallas is not in the playoffs. The problem is that some of those reasons should have been fixed by now. Some of the other stuff has been fixed, which is why we can say that Dallas will be better next season. Even more stuff should hopefully be fixed for next season as well. Parcells will deserve more criticism next year if the team doesn't make the playoffs. The longer any coach is with a team and that team doesn't show progress, they will deserve more criticism.

This man speaks the truth.

- Mike G.

 

[Zaxor]

Funny thing is we had our best rushing day when the big money man Rivera was out and of course Flo was out as well.

Not trying to be sarcastic here but I am really taking stuff down and saving all the excuses.

Let's recap all the excuses of the Big Bill Era:


2003
Quincy Sucked
Hambrick Sucked
Fluke Year
OL sucked
No pass rush
BP Still cleaning up 10 years worth of mess


2004
Vinny sucked
JJ/BP were passive in FA
Parcells didnt do anything because 2003 was a smoke screen
Jones went down
OL sucked
Zimmer had nobody to work with
BP Still cleaning up 10 years worth of mess


2005
Flo got injured
Henry got injured
Rivera needs time for back to heel
Petitti sucked
Jones recovering from ankle injury
OL sucked
Too many rookies
BP Still cleaning up 10 years worth of mess


I would like to open up a special forum on the board so we can all take bets on what the excuses will be next year....at least we can make some money off of it :

This one seems to popup each year, so I am gonna go with this one:
BP Still cleaning up 10 years worth of mess

As I stated, I am jumping off Bill Parcells' bangwagon next year if we have the same results.

Always next year were going to be good...always wait until next year....always we are 1 year away..... :

- Mike G.

that and the OL sucked...at some point the excuses has got to stop...

just for fun can you give me Campo's excuses...

I think in the first year it was that Troy and Galloway went down and then you would have to throw in no first round pick somewhere

 

[Maikeru-sama]

that and the OL sucked...at some point the excuses has got to stop...

just for fun can you give me Campo's excuses...

I think in the first year it was that Troy and Galloway went down and then you would have to throw in no first round pick somewhere

Campo's excuses were easy

-Handicapped by the Dead Money
-Wasnt allowed to pick the groceries and some say not even allowed to tell the groceries what to do
-Quincy Carter
-Not able to make key decisions late in a game

All I am saying is a I look at Gailey and Campo's Winning Percentage in the Playoffs, and it is the same as Bill Parcells', .000.

I feel Bill's wagon is getting smaller, im still on that baby because I really want to beleive, but after a while...I will jump off.

As I stated in another thread.

It is EXTREMELY misleading to compare Bill Parcells to Campo and Gailey. This is an insult to Bill Parcells and to everyone on this board intelligence.

We should be comparing him to people on his level:

Dick Vermiel
Bill Belechik
Mike Holmgren
Andy Reid (No Super Bowl but very high winning percentage)
Tony Dungy (See Reid)
Jon Gruden
Joe Gibbs
etc etc

These are the people on his level and these are the people I am going to compare him too. His success in this league makes comparing him to Campo and Gailey extremely dumb.

I want to know how Big Bill stacks up against the REAL heavyweights.

Right now, it aint looking so good.

- Mike G.

 

[Ashwynn]

I have always thought that the injury is no excuse BS is just that. Where would NE be if Brady was out for the season? We all know what happens to Atlanta when Vick is out. Imagine the Colts without Manning. There are other positions on various teams where you have the one player you cannot lose. IF we had had a good backup for the Hotel then we would have been ok- WE DID NOT. We already had one weak tackle; then we had 2. BALL GAME OVER. IF the middle of the line had been performing well we might have scraped by- but it was not. So the whole thing collapsed. And when the O line went, the O went. Outside of Carolina and KC, we did not really have an offense the rest of the season. And with all the injuries in the secondary and the LB corps, our D could not pick up the slack. And there you have it. Injuries ensured we sit at home for the playoffs. That and a lousy kicking game.

Quoted for the truth!

 

[iceberg]

Quoted for the truth!

looks more like "quoted cause i like it" which is confused for the truth a lot.

 

[Ashwynn]

i'll type slow - pay attention.

I DO NOT HATE NOR HAVE I EVER HATED DREW BLEDSOE.

got it?

i do not believe he's a good long term answer and i do not believe after 13 years he'll suddenly be the "lights out" qb his fanbase is waiting for. quite possibly ONLY since he became a cowboy and blinders went on.

Did you come up with this conclusion all by yourself. Your pretty bright if so. But most of us knew this when we signed him. No ones ever said hes the long term solution, but whats your solution to get to that LONG TERM solution. You gotta play a QB in every game you know. Even now while the long term solutions not even on the team. Your complaining about Bledsoe is like complaining about your job. You still have to go and do it every damn day. No matter how you hate it. Why complain about it. It just makes working there that much more of a pain. WHat are you gunna do with Bledsoe. Would you rather Henson goes out and makes it a 4-12 season? Would that make you feel better?

 

[Doomsday]

BP went conservative with the offense to try and mask the flaws. Bledsoe was sacked 25 times in the last 5 games. That doesnt even count all the hurries, knockdowns etc.. I give Bledsoe credit for staying in there and doing as well as he did considering the circumstances.

 

[gbrittain]

Flo was big, but again, many teams lost very important personell.

And when he was here we still lost to the Raiders and almost made Julian Petersen's prediction come true in San Fran.

While he was out, we went toe-to-toe, with the Giants, Broncos, Seattle etc etc and had a 7-3 Record after Week 11.

It's all about adjustments and coming up with innovative solutions when your good players go down.

Flo was big, but he cannot be the scapegoat for why we didnt make the playoffs.

- Mike G.

Most excellent points there.

 

[Zaxor]

I wasn't sure what to expect from the offensive line going into the season. Maybe that is an indicator of the inconsistency. There were just a lot of unknowns going into training camp and nothing that occurred in camp and the pre-season answered those questions. Who was going to be the right tackle? How was Riviera going to respond to his off season back problems and missing a portion of training camp? Was Al Johnson going to improve in his second season as a starter? Was there anything left in Larry Allen? Was there dependable depth along the O-line? There were even questions about Flozell, but he seemd to be the most dependable lineman that Dallas had going into the season. That is why his injury hurt the team. Instead of questions being answered, his injury just brought on more questions.

and knowing what you knew about the o-line and Bledsoe's history did you think it was or is a good match?

 

[Zaxor]

This man speaks the truth.

- Mike G.

Yup we maybe better... but I doubt Wash will stand pat nor NYG nor Philly...we not only have to better we have to have improved almost everywhere

 

[Zaxor]

Campo's excuses were easy

-Handicapped by the Dead Money
-Wasnt allowed to pick the groceries and some say not even allowed to tell the groceries what to do
-Quincy Carter
-Not able to make key decisions late in a game

All I am saying is a I look at Gailey and Campo's Winning Percentage in the Playoffs, and it is the same as Bill Parcells', .000.

I feel Bill's wagon is getting smaller, im still on that baby because I really want to beleive, but after a while...I will jump off.

As I stated in another thread.

It is EXTREMELY misleading to compare Bill Parcells to Campo and Gailey. This is an insult to Bill Parcells and to everyone on this board intelligence.

We should be comparing him to people on his level:

Dick Vermiel
Bill Belechik
Mike Holmgren
Andy Reid (No Super Bowl but very high winning percentage)
Tony Dungy (See Reid)
Jon Gruden
Joe Gibbs
etc etc

These are the people on his level and these are the people I am going to compare him too. His success in this league makes comparing him to Campo and Gailey extremely dumb.

I want to know how Big Bill stacks up against the REAL heavyweights.

Right now, it aint looking so good.

- Mike G.

You are right of course... but his success with the Cowboys could be compared to Gailey and Campo and he has had many, many more benefits that those two did not have

 

[Sarge]

Just a question?

Actually, it was 2 questions.

 

[joseephuss]

and knowing what you knew about the o-line and Bledsoe's history did you think it was or is a good match?

I thought it was the best match available for Dallas this past off season. I know that is answer that isn't filled with much confidence, but that is just they way it is nowadays. There just aren't many good options at the QB position in the NFL. You have to be a little lucky and/or willing to take a young guy and wait for them to develop.

What other veterans were available this past off season? Keeping Vinny would have caused Dallas to go 6-10 again or worse. He is terrible. Kurt Warner? He would be the same sitting duck that Bledsoe was behind this line. Bledsoe's edge was his familiarity with the offense, Glenn and Parcells. Jeff Garcia? Nope. Brad Johnson? I like Johnson, but he is a back up and nothing more at this time in his career.

Dallas wasn't in a position to draft Alex Smith and I was not impressed with Rogers from Cal. Plus any rookie QB or young QB is going to struggle behine a poor line.

This offensive line was not a good match for any QBs that were readily available to Dallas during the off season. Bledsoe was the best choice. Maybe that is by default. I never thought he was a bad choice, but I knew his strengths and weaknesses. I thought Dallas may struggle to cover his weaknesses and allow him to play to his strengths and that is what happened.

 

[big_neil]

We were 4-2 with Flozell, 5-5 without. We went from 7-3 to 2-3 before the final game.

 

[Zaxor]

I thought it was the best match available for Dallas this past off season. I know that is answer that isn't filled with much confidence, but that is just they way it is nowadays. There just aren't many good options at the QB position in the NFL. You have to be a little lucky and/or willing to take a young guy and wait for them to develop.

What other veterans were available this past off season? Keeping Vinny would have caused Dallas to go 6-10 again or worse. He is terrible. Kurt Warner? He would be the same sitting duck that Bledsoe was behind this line. Bledsoe's edge was his familiarity with the offense, Glenn and Parcells. Jeff Garcia? Nope. Brad Johnson? I like Johnson, but he is a back up and nothing more at this time in his career.

Dallas wasn't in a position to draft Alex Smith and I was not impressed with Rogers from Cal. Plus any rookie QB or young QB is going to struggle behine a poor line.

This offensive line was not a good match for any QBs that were readily available to Dallas during the off season. Bledsoe was the best choice. Maybe that is by default. I never thought he was a bad choice, but I knew his strengths and weaknesses. I thought Dallas may struggle to cover his weaknesses and allow him to play to his strengths and that is what happened.

I really wanted to let the young guys play...figured we weren't the right match for Bledsoe and then we(the Cowboys) and they(Henson, Romo) would have something to look at and work on in the offseason

 

[joseephuss]

I really wanted to let the young guys play...figured we weren't the right match for Bledsoe and then we(the Cowboys) and they(Henson, Romo) would have something to look at and work on in the offseason

I wasn't opposed to that idea. Reallistically, it would have meant another losing season. And at the end of the season, I am not so certain that it would have been clear if either would be capable of being the QB. Behind this o-line, very few questions seem to be answered. Everything is what it is now. Bledsoe is the QB. He doesn't cost a lot. The line has to be fixed anyway, so right now there is no reason to get rid of Bledsoe unless a very good QB is suddenly available to Dallas.

 

[burmafrd]

We had the best QB available this spring. But the O line fell apart. every break we could have got went the other way. Flo's injury; RIvera disapointing; Pettiti not being able to get it done; Johnson not improving. Each one of them going the other way and we have a solid line and we are in the playoffs. When 4 out of 5 disapoint or are injured there is nothing you can do about it- your offense will be offensive.