What would a so called "win now" mock draft look like?

baltcowboy

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Maybe they are waiting to see what happens in the draft. They aren't talking to multiple corners, if they aren't taking one.
They are talking to multiple people at every position. Even quarterbacks. That means nothing.
 

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But I mean what position is plug and play?

RB is a backup to Pollard

We don’t know for certain the plan at LG - even if they want to draft someone could be a learning curve and they don’t start (last years 1st round Gs were better than anything in this class and we’re below average last year)

WILL LBr?

TE will get some snaps but if it isn’t Mayer not ready to block
I think running back, 1 tech, tight end, and guard are plug and play for the way the Cowboys are thinking. Denzel Washington plug and play tight end. Robinson/Gibbs plug and play running back.
 

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They are talking to multiple people at every position. Even quarterbacks. That means nothing.
Big difference, when you are talking with all the top corners compared to late rd QB's. Watch and see how many corners come in on that 30 visit list.
 

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I think running back, 1 tech, tight end, and guard are plug and play for the way the Cowboys are thinking. Denzel Washington plug and play tight end. Robinson/Gibbs plug and play running back.
I just hit on RB, G and TE.

There isn’t a 1st round 1T in the draft. Mazi is a 2 down player that gives you zero pass rush and Cancey will get killed against the run.

So if I have players that are similar ranked at the most expensive positions in football (WR / CB / DE / OT) I’m taking that person 10 times out of 10 over the lower value positions.
 

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I just hit on RB, G and TE.

There isn’t a 1st round 1T in the draft. Mazi is a 2 down player that gives you zero pass rush and Cancey will get killed against the run.

So if I have players that are similar ranked at the most expensive positions in football (WR / CB / DE / OT) I’m taking that person 10 times out of 10 over the lower value positions.
What are the Joneses going to do? Be ready brother draft night could be a long night for us. :laugh:
 

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What are the Joneses going to do? Be ready brother draft night could be a long night for us. :laugh:
Probably disappoint but I set my expectations years ago based off of how they’ve been running the team so I don’t get surprised anymore.

If I had to wager on it I’d bet they take a TE / G in the 1st round when there is a better player available at a money position.
 

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My attempt at a win now draft using PFN - make a big trade up to #7 w/ the Raiders
  • Pick 26 - 1st
  • Pick 58 - 2nd
  • Pick 129 - 4th
  • 2024 DAL 1st
  • 2024 DAL 3rd
7. Jalen Carter - DT - Georgia
90. Tank Bigsby - RB - Auburn
176. Chandler Zavala - G - NC State
212. Brenton Strange - TE - Penn State
244. Jake Moody - K - Michigan

Shores up your 5 of your biggest needs going into next season - still need to add at LB and future CB
This would require too many assets though for it to work....assets being cheap draft talent to replenish the roster after paying large deals to Lamb/Diggs/Parsons
 

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Probably disappoint but I set my expectations years ago based off of how they’ve been running the team so I don’t get surprised anymore.

If I had to wager on it I’d bet they take a TE / G in the 1st round when there is a better player available at a money position.
Yeah good guess. I could see that being the first two picks. I do think Quinn could change things.
 

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You scared to death of Mazi. He could be this years Tyler. Linebacker? Who do you have in mind?
Go watch Mazi against Avilia in the playoff game and tell me which player should be rated higher? Can't see linebacker until late day 2, early day 3. Henley is one of my favorites, along with Campbell.
 

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I believe this team will either draft for the future to get out of big contracts or as Jerry said yesterday immediate impact rookies. how would that look like:

-RB, LG, TE, NT & probably a CB

1-Schmitz/Torrence/Avilia (Maybe a small trade back to land a Guard, depth is poor at the position, picking up an extra 3rd) Could do the same with TE.
2-Benton DT Wisconsin (Can play either 1 or the 3 and has some rush abilities)
3a-Darius Rush/Eli Ricks CB
3b-LaPorta/Scoonmaker TE
4-Best available RB Johnson/Miller/Abanikanda
The Cowboys need dynamic players regardless of position.

Your win-now ability is most improved if you could draft one of these types of players regardless of position:
Micah Parsons
Randy Moss
Reggie White
Adrian Peterson
Zack Martin

For the Cowboys in 2023, the biggest win now move would be to trade up for DT Jalen Carter.

Drafting a RB in the 1st has questionable long-term value but for win now, Bijan would be a good option.

Position/Need wise they have the least experience at TE.

Their biggest need in the playoff loss was another dynamic offensive player.
- Only Lamb and Pollard were in that category. & Pollard was injured after 6 carries.
- Maybe over-drafting one the dynamic but smallish WRs or RBs would add that dynamic player.
- I say over-drafted because the smallish WRs/RBs might never become the #1 player at their position.
 

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I believe this team will either draft for the future to get out of big contracts or as Jerry said yesterday immediate impact rookies. how would that look like:

-RB, LG, TE, NT & probably a CB

1-Schmitz/Torrence/Avilia (Maybe a small trade back to land a Guard, depth is poor at the position, picking up an extra 3rd) Could do the same with TE.
2-Benton DT Wisconsin (Can play either 1 or the 3 and has some rush abilities)
3a-Darius Rush/Eli Ricks CB
3b-LaPorta/Scoonmaker TE
4-Best available RB Johnson/Miller/Abanikanda
Good draft if you get the trade back.

I wouldn't call it a win-now focused draft, but it's solid and safe.

  • For 2023:
    • I don't think any interior OL will play unless there are injuries.
      • They expect Steele to be ready by training camp.
      • Tyron Tyler Biadasz Martin Steele (Despite any comments by Jerry)
    • DT Benton would be a great pick at #58 if available.
      • Definitely an immediate contributor.
    • I like the upside of Rush.
      • Ricks looks good in game footage but ran a 4.6 forty.
      • Maybe he has not recover from a reported March hamstring injury.
    • If they're going to draft another mid-round TE, then a different type than Ferguson would be best.
      • Either a faster more dynamic receiving TE or a mongo blocking TE.
      • LaPorta/Scoonmaker are a little faster than Ferguson.
    • I think those RBs go before the Cowboys 4th round pick.
 

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The Cowboys need dynamic players regardless of position.

Your win-now ability is most improved if you could draft one of these types of players regardless of position:
Micah Parsons
Randy Moss
Reggie White
Adrian Peterson
Zack Martin

For the Cowboys in 2023, the biggest win now move would be to trade up for DT Jalen Carter.

Drafting a RB in the 1st has questionable long-term value but for win now, Bijan would be a good option.

Position/Need wise they have the least experience at TE.

Their biggest need in the playoff loss was another dynamic offensive player.
- Only Lamb and Pollard were in that category. & Pollard was injured after 6 carries.
- Maybe over-drafting one the dynamic but smallish WRs or RBs would add that dynamic player.
- I say over-drafted because the smallish WRs/RBs might never become the #1 player at their position.
In todays NFL legit contenders have 2 high end WRs. I’d agree drafting a WR in the 1st wasn’t the best idea 10+ years ago but things have changed.
 

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If you relying on draft picks to get you to the SB then you are not there imo,any draft pick (even the 1st RD pick) will take time to produce and most wont play at a high level in year 1 or even get on the field.
 

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Good draft if you get the trade back.

I wouldn't call it a win-now focused draft, but it's solid and safe.

  • For 2023:
    • I don't think any interior OL will play unless there are injuries.
      • They expect Steele to be ready by training camp.
      • Tyron Tyler Biadasz Martin Steele (Despite any comments by Jerry)
    • DT Benton would be a great pick at #58 if available.
      • Definitely an immediate contributor.
    • I like the upside of Rush.
      • Ricks looks good in game footage but ran a 4.6 forty.
      • Maybe he has not recover from a reported March hamstring injury.
    • If they're going to draft another mid-round TE, then a different type than Ferguson would be best.
      • Either a faster more dynamic receiving TE or a mongo blocking TE.
      • LaPorta/Scoonmaker are a little faster than Ferguson.
    • I think those RBs go before the Cowboys 4th round pick.
-See Dane Bruglar has Rush up to 66, think he is now more a candidate now at 58, then 90. Great speed/length. Doesn't have Ricks in his top 100. Brents is the one I am most intrigued with after rd 1.
-Feel they are going to have to draft a 3rd tier back at 90, probably cannot wait until their 4th rd selection.
-OL is very hard to figure, I agree all three tackles will start, but how long can Tyron hold up. Think Avilia is one of their top targets, but watched some tape on him this morning, better pass protector then a run blocker.
-TE is either going to be high or more of a early day 3 selection. Good depth, agree probably need more of a receiver at the position.

-What I am hearing/reading this week, they may want to draft a small, slot receiver: Downs, Dell are two they are showing a lot of interest with.
 

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The Cowboys need dynamic players regardless of position.

Your win-now ability is most improved if you could draft one of these types of players regardless of position:
Micah Parsons
Randy Moss
Reggie White
Adrian Peterson
Zack Martin

For the Cowboys in 2023, the biggest win now move would be to trade up for DT Jalen Carter.

Drafting a RB in the 1st has questionable long-term value but for win now, Bijan would be a good option.

Position/Need wise they have the least experience at TE.

Their biggest need in the playoff loss was another dynamic offensive player.
- Only Lamb and Pollard were in that category. & Pollard was injured after 6 carries.
- Maybe over-drafting one the dynamic but smallish WRs or RBs would add that dynamic player.
- I say over-drafted because the smallish WRs/RBs might never become the #1 player at their position.
-Jalen Carter would be like a Julio Jones type of trade, no issues making such a bold move.
-Agree, think they need to add 1 more legitimate weapon on offense, no matter where it is.
 

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Go watch Mazi against Avilia in the playoff game and tell me which player should be rated higher? Can't see linebacker until late day 2, early day 3. Henley is one of my favorites, along with Campbell.
Avila the favorite to be the pick at 26. :thumbup:
 

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I agree about LG RB and tight end The first three rounds. The question of use of resources isn’t Jermaine in my opinion in building a team. Now the cap spread is understandable and logical. I don’t know that we have a chance this season but I like action.
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