What would a so called "win now" mock draft look like?

[Landryhat73]

I believe this team will either draft for the future to get out of big contracts or as Jerry said yesterday immediate impact rookies. how would that look like:

-RB, LG, TE, NT & probably a CB

1-Schmitz/Torrence/Avilia (Maybe a small trade back to land a Guard, depth is poor at the position, picking up an extra 3rd) Could do the same with TE.
2-Benton DT Wisconsin (Can play either 1 or the 3 and has some rush abilities)
3a-Darius Rush/Eli Ricks CB
3b-LaPorta/Scoonmaker TE
4-Best available RB Johnson/Miller/Abanikanda

Agree - seems like the word out of Dallas is they like Avila. Can’t tell the interest in the other opinions accept they are bringing in TCU Miller for a private workout- I like Abanikanda better.

If I had to get more specific with the same trade idea: Let’s say KC is targeting a WR
31) Avila - when word starts leaking out of the Star - it’s usually true
58) Benton - awesome at the senior bowl
90) Rush - needs work but some speed and potential ceiling
95) LaPorta - probably won’t last this long
129) Abanikanda- seems more explosive then the other bigger RBs who could be drafted around this time

 

[darthseinfeld]

The only offensive lineman that makes sense in rd 1 is Schmitz, unless they view Tyler as a future LG. Taking Schmitz would mean they would be upgrading the Center position which is a more high valued one.

I don't know about a higher value position. C's going in the first round is quite rare compared to OG's

 

[Cowboyny]

Agree - seems like the word out of Dallas is they like Avila. Can’t tell the interest in the other opinions accept they are bringing in TCU Miller for a private workout- I like Abanikanda better.

If I had to get more specific with the same trade idea: Let’s say KC is targeting a WR
31) Avila - when word starts leaking out of the Star - it’s usually true
58) Benton - awesome at the senior bowl
90) Rush - needs work but some speed and potential ceiling
95) LaPorta - probably won’t last this long
129) Abanikanda- seems more explosive then the other bigger RBs who could be drafted around this time

This makes a lot of sense. Think they also could trade back for a TE in rd 1, but the depth at LG is far less at Guard then it is at TE.

 

[Cowboyny]

I don't know about a higher value position. C's going in the first round is quite rare compared to OG's

I think it's more important then the Guard position. You are right not many are 1st rd picks, but the one's who are have been real good, Frederick, Mangold to name a few.

 

[darthseinfeld]

I think it's more important then the Guard position. You are right not many are 1st rd picks, but the one's who are have been real good, Frederick, Mangold to name a few.

I just dont think its veiwed that way by NFL teams

 

[baltcowboy]

I believe this team will either draft for the future to get out of big contracts or as Jerry said yesterday immediate impact rookies. how would that look like:

-RB, LG, TE, NT & probably a CB

1-Schmitz/Torrence/Avilia (Maybe a small trade back to land a Guard, depth is poor at the position, picking up an extra 3rd) Could do the same with TE.
2-Benton DT Wisconsin (Can play either 1 or the 3 and has some rush abilities)
3a-Darius Rush/Eli Ricks CB
3b-LaPorta/Scoonmaker TE
4-Best available RB Johnson/Miller/Abanikanda

I keep listening to the Joneses and MM talk and then I remember they changed the entire offensive coaching staff that specialize in running the football. The Cowboys brought in a receiver that can stretch the field and play inside or outside. They brought in a cornerback that was defensive player of the year in 2019 that graded as a better then Diggs in coverage last season. I think Dallas will have a conservative draft meaning they will take Avila at 26 because he literally is a plug and play left guard. I could see them drafting a 1 tech or tight end in the second round because they I don’t think they trust Bohanna and feel a draft pick/Ferguson/Hendershot should suffice at tight end. I still believe the plan is to have Tyron at left tackle and Tyler at guard in the dream no injury scenario but the reality is you will be lucky to get 6 games from Tyron. The Cowboys know Tyron is literally on his last legs. I think a top 10 prospect would have to fall to them not to just pick plug and play guys. Looking forward to private workouts and player visits.

 

[Stash]

Drafting a corner is still high priority for me, don't want to be in a situation again like the end of last yr. One injury away and we are relying on a 33 yr old corner to stay healthy. Drafting a corner in the top 3 rounds is a must.

I agree. While I like the trade for Gilmore, they still need to address cornerback long term.

 

[cnuball21]

This makes a lot of sense. Think they also could trade back for a TE in rd 1, but the depth at LG is far less at Guard then it is at TE.

If the money positions are wiped I’d probably prefer to trade back.

If we’re going to take a low value position at least try to snag an extra 3rd.

 

[Cowboyny]

If the money positions are wiped I’d probably prefer to trade back.

If we’re going to take a low value position at least try to snag an extra 3rd.

It certainly would depend on their board and if they can find a trade partner. If they like an Avilia, makes sense to try to move back. Think if they really like Mayer/Kincaid, might have to stay put.

Nothing is set in stone, we should have a better idea once all these 30 visits are confirmed. Just saw Forbes last night, he is one I would consider at 26, heard he is definitely going in rd 1, despite his combine weight. Bulk him up to 175 and we have a real good corner.

 

[Cowboyny]

I agree. While I like the trade for Gilmore, they still need to address cornerback long term.

Both Diggs/Gilmore are also fa's next yr. You would think if they extend Diggs, they cannot pay two high priced corners.

 

[Cowboyny]

I keep listening to the Joneses and MM talk and then I remember they changed the entire offensive coaching staff that specialize in running the football. The Cowboys brought in a receiver that can stretch the field and play inside or outside. They brought in a cornerback that was defensive player of the year in 2019 that graded as a better then Diggs in coverage last season. I think Dallas will have a conservative draft meaning they will take Avila at 26 because he literally is a plug and play left guard. I could see them drafting a 1 tech or tight end in the second round because they I don’t think they trust Bohanna and feel a draft pick/Ferguson/Hendershot should suffice at tight end. I still believe the plan is to have Tyron at left tackle and Tyler at guard in the dream no injury scenario but the reality is you will be lucky to get 6 games from Tyron. The Cowboys know Tyron is literally on his last legs. I think a top 10 prospect would have to fall to them not to just pick plug and play guys. Looking forward to private workouts and player visits.

First, I see all 3 tackles in the starting lineup, but we all know Tyron has availability concerns. They need a real contingent plan in place in games he is out. Now will they use a 1st rd pick for a so called injury replacement? If Jerry is indeed telling the truth, the answer is undoubtingly yes, but if Steele if ready, my answer is no.

Now the main issue, Guard depth in this draft falls off the cliff after say the top 4-5 prospects, if you don't draft one early on, you are looking more at developmental, day 3 types: Schmitz (G/C), Torrence, Avilia (G/C), Mauch, Bergeron (Tackle convert), maybe Daniels from Utah. The latter three might get to 58, but there is no guarantee.

Think drafting a 1st rd guard is very much in play, more so then I thought after Tyron returned.

 

[baltcowboy]

First, I see all 3 tackles in the starting lineup, but we all know Tyron has availability concerns. They need a real contingent plan in place in games he is out. Now will they use a 1st rd pick for a so called injury replacement? If Jerry is indeed telling the truth, the answer is undoubtingly yes, but if Steele if ready, my answer is no.

Now the main issue, Guard depth in this draft falls off the cliff after say the top 4-5 prospects, if you don't draft one early on, you are looking more at developmental, day 3 types: Schmitz (G/C), Torrence, Avilia (G/C), Mauch, Bergeron (Tackle convert), maybe Daniels from Utah. The latter three might get to 58, but there is no guarantee.

Think drafting a 1st rd guard is very much in play, more so then I thought after Tyron returned.

Guard is a high price to pay a first round pick on but if your MM and your job is on the line you will take that chance. Avila is a safer pick then Smith or McDonald. The guy is plug and play. Protecting Dak is the priority. Stephen, Jerry and MM said that.

 

[Cowboyny]

Guard is a high price to pay a first round pick on but if your MM and your job is on the line you will take that chance. Avila is a safer pick then Smith or McDonald. The guy is plug and play. Protecting Dak is the priority. Stephen, Jerry and MM said that.

Yes, hearing the same things. My guess right now a month away, they will be targeting G, CB, RB with their top three picks, in no specific order. Think their day 3 priorities will be at TE, NT, Developmental QB and maybe a Safety or a LB.

 

[cnuball21]

First, I see all 3 tackles in the starting lineup, but we all know Tyron has availability concerns. They need a real contingent plan in place in games he is out. Now will they use a 1st rd pick for a so called injury replacement? If Jerry is indeed telling the truth, the answer is undoubtingly yes, but if Steele if ready, my answer is no.

Now the main issue, Guard depth in this draft falls off the cliff after say the top 4-5 prospects, if you don't draft one early on, you are looking more at developmental, day 3 types: Schmitz (G/C), Torrence, Avilia (G/C), Mauch, Bergeron (Tackle convert), maybe Daniels from Utah. The latter three might get to 58, but there is no guarantee.

Think drafting a 1st rd guard is very much in play, more so then I thought after Tyron returned.

Don’t sleep on Zavala and the kids from Bama and UCLA. I’m fairly confident we could get someone who could turn into a quality G in round 3.

I don’t think there’s a 1st round G in this class and no one is as good as the big 2 from last year. Everyone likes to say plug and play if we take a G in round 1 - not that simple and there is 0 guarantee that player comes in and is better than Chuma year 1.

 

[baltcowboy]

Yes, hearing the same things. My guess right now a month away, they will be targeting G, CB, RB with their top three picks, in no specific order. Think their day 3 priorities will be at TE, NT, Developmental QB and maybe a Safety or a LB.

2nd round pick will be the highest rated player on their board because if they pick a guard at 26 you know Quinn is going to want a guy like last season when he got Sam. There will be a good tight end, running back, pass rusher and cornerback at 58.

 

[Cowboyny]

2nd round pick will be the highest rated player on their board because if they pick a guard at 26 you know Quinn is going to want a guy like last season when he got Sam. There will be a good tight end, running back, pass rusher and cornerback at 58.

Think that might be the area to address corner, 3rd round might be too late.

 

[Cowboyny]

Don’t sleep on Zavala and the kids from Bama and UCLA. I’m fairly confident we could get someone who could turn into a quality G in round 3.

I don’t think there’s a 1st round G in this class and no one is as good as the big 2 from last year. Everyone likes to say plug and play if we take a G in round 1 - not that simple and there is 0 guarantee that player comes in and is better than Chuma year 1.

They do have a strong track record drafting plug and play offensive lineman. This group might not be as talented, but they are the type of Guards they want this yr. Solari is going to use more of a man blocking scheme and it appears they are targeting power guards. Both Torrence/Avilia are excellent fits. No if they are expecting Steele/Tyron/Tyler all to start, I don't think they will draft 1 in the 1st rd, but cannot rule it out after that.

 

[cnuball21]

They do have a strong track record drafting plug and play offensive lineman. This group might not be as talented, but they are the type of Guards they want this yr. Solari is going to use more of a man blocking scheme and it appears they are targeting power guards. Both Torrence/Avilia are excellent fits. No if they are expecting Steele/Tyron/Tyler all to start, I don't think they will draft 1 in the 1st rd, but cannot rule it out after that.

That’s fine if they want to get their type, I’m just saying last years class was better at the top and those guys played lesser than Connor did last year.

Fans tend to overestimate how good rookies will be. Chuma will likely give us what Connor did last year which is average. If we want to develop someone in parallel to that great…would just hate to see it as a reach in the 1st.

 

[Stash]

Guard is a high price to pay a first round pick on but if your MM and your job is on the line you will take that chance. Avila is a safer pick then Smith or McDonald. The guy is plug and play. Protecting Dak is the priority. Stephen, Jerry and MM said that.

I’m thinking a guard like Avila would be part of a trade down scenario. I think 26 is too high, but top of round 2 with some draft compensation seems about right.

 

[cnuball21]

I’m thinking a guard like Avila would be part of a trade down scenario. I think 26 is too high, but top of round 2 with some draft compensation seems about right.

I agree.

If they are locked in on someone like Avila and love him enough to move up a little in the 2nd that’s better…don’t love it though.