What would you change about this offseason?

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1. Not switch to 3-4 as a Base D
2. Not released Dex
3. Should have released Singleton
4. Didn't like the Berry-O pick
5. Should have took a Flyer on a WR somewhere late in the draft...
 

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MichaelWinicki said:
LOL!

Brain doesn't have haddock down in WV. They just take a pig, toss it in water, pull it out and call it "fish".

Pigfish...I like it...

Ya know, speaking of not being able to get a bite...what's the deal with these people insisting on talking football while we are clearly trying to hijack the thread?
 

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Juke99 said:
Pigfish...I like it...

Ya know, speaking of not being able to get a bite...what's the deal with these people insisting on talking football while we are clearly trying to hijack the thread?


True.

I think they're rude for not following the lead.

I wish we had a few buses around here then someone could practice their "throw". :D
 

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AsthmaField said:
Rivera. He'll help solidify the entire OL and his impact will be greater than just helping one position. Character. Toughness. Leadership. I loved this move.


Khalif Barnes. I liked him for RT and he probably would've won the starting job from day one.

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Mike Nugent. The K position would've been filled for a long time.



What would you have done differently?

Agree on Rivera. The only question I have about him is that injury and his age. But OL can play well into their 30's, so as long as this injury isn't like Woody's(doesn't look like it), he should be good.

I think Barnes would have been a good pick up, and I thought we may have grabbed him in the second as well.

Nugent, I have to disagree with you on this one. I just wouldn't feel right about using a 2nd round pick on a kicker. You can find servicable guys all over the place. I think Burnett was a good pick up, especially if he becomes productive. Kickers can play a role in some situations, but a 2nd round pick, I'd expect him to do more than kick the ball a few times a game.
 
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BrAinPaiNt said:
Hard to complain as who knew at the time....but If I knew we were going to get ATrain....I think I would have looked at what WRs were available in the 4th over Barber (don't get me wrong I really wanted barber at the time).

Once again that is with the idea that we knew we would get A-Train down the road....without knowing that at the time then the Barber pick was fine with me.

I agree with most of what you say, & hindsight is 20-20, but, if we knew ahead of time the ATrain would be on board, we could have used the 4th rd. pick on Canty. That would have spared us a pick next year, and let us keep the 5th rd. pick, (#146), for Bill Swancutt. I know we had drafted DLs throughout the draft at this point, but if we're going strictly by Best Available PLAYER, Swancutt wins hands down.

I don't care what all of the so-called experts referred to his "limited ability, and lack of athletism". That is all bull! Dude started 40 games & had 37 sacks in his career! That's almost a sack a game! Give me that kind of clumsy fool any day of the week! Swancutt dominated EVERY OT he went up against, & that includes Khalif Barnes & Michael Roos at the Senior Bowl. He shared the co-Defensive MVP title w/Shaun Cody, and Cody goes in the 2nd rd. of the draft?! Well, the Lions got both of them, so watch what I say about Swancutt this year. If Ware or Spears doesn't get DROTY, then my bet is on Swanny.
 

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MichaelWinicki said:
LOL!

Brain doesn't have haddock down in WV. They just take a pig, toss it in water, pull it out and call it "fish".


You do know I have fished in NY, NJ, Maryland, Florida, Louisiana, Texas, Ohio and WV?

Oh How I miss Toledo Bend on the LA/TX border...that was some good fishing.

Now I never caught a Haddock....but then again every serious fisherman knows that Bass fishing is the best....followed by the lazy days of catfishing. :D
 

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BrAinPaiNt said:
You do know I have fished in NY, NJ, Maryland, Florida, Louisiana, Texas, Ohio and WV?

Oh How I miss Toledo Bend on the LA/TX border...that was some good fishing.

Now I never caught a Haddock....but then again every serious fisherman knows that Bass fishing is the best....followed by the lazy days of catfishing. :D
Did I ever tell you about fishing in Arizona? Yeah, another snake story. ;)
 

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Hostile said:
Did I ever tell you about fishing in Arizona? Yeah, another snake story. ;)


Good fishing in that one big lake in arizona? ;)
 

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Alexander said:
  • Given the back injury to Rivera and our inability to get a RT in the draft - I would have signed Mike Wahle, who can play G and T.
  • Given the fact we were able to get Aaron Glenn - I would have gone after a FS harder than a RCB (Darren Sharper). I think we might regret paying Henry the type of money we balked at paying last year. I don't think he is that great.
  • If I knew we would get Anthony Thomas - I would have drafted OG Elton Brown or WR Jerome Mathis in the 4th round. Barber is okay, but I don't know if he is going to be special and help us right away. I also would have liked Sproles if I knew that Thomas was going to come aboard.
I am sure there are more, but those come to mind immediately.

All very good points and I'll add to that not trying to trade Bledsoe and Henson to Cleveland for their 2nd round pick plus bringing back Vinny and drafting A. Rogers or J. Campbell. I've always hated Bledsoe as a qb, he's a pure pocket statue that reads defenses too slowly for his experience. They say he's holding the ball too long cause he wants to make a big play, but shouldn't a dap of common sense coupled with 12 years experience tell him to try throwing the ball away instead of taking sacks. He makes the same mistakes as green qbs and yet some make excuses for him, while much less experienced qb's get crucified for making the mistakes he makes.
 

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BrAinPaiNt said:
You might be right...however I think they may have went with a different type of RB later in the draft...more of a shifty speed back ala sproles.

But either way I am not complaining at all as I liked barber going into the draft.

I like Barber too, but our team looks like a checkboard, solid depth at some positions, but glaring weaknesses at others like qb,rt,wr,rde,little depth at DT.
 

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kartr said:
I'll add to that not trying to trade Bledsoe and Henson to Cleveland for their 2nd round pick plus bringing back Vinny and drafting A. Rogers or J. Campbell.

What led you to believe that this was even a possibility? Why would they trade for Bledsoe and Henson? And how would we get Campbell if he went to the Commanders in the first round?

This ought to be a good one.

I've always hated Bledsoe as a qb, he's a pure pocket statue that reads defenses too slowly for his experience. They say he's holding the ball too long cause he wants to make a big play, but shouldn't a dap of common sense coupled with 12 years experience tell him to try throwing the ball away instead of taking sacks. He makes the same mistakes as green qbs and yet some make excuses for him, while much less experienced qb's get crucified for making the mistakes he makes.

Like Carter. Yes, I believe we all understand.
 

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StonetheCrow77 said:
1. Not switch to 3-4 as a Base D
2. Not released Dex
3. Should have released Singleton
4. Didn't like the Berry-O pick
5. Should have took a Flyer on a WR somewhere late in the draft...

Good points again, Dex can still play and Singleton is just a guy.
Berry-O is just a special teamer.
Without a young speedy receiver, if Glenn goes down again and Stone Hands Morgan doesn't make a remarkable transformation, Bledsoe will hold the ball even longer and get sacked a lot. If he held the ball too long with Lee Evans, why should he be any different here----cause Parcells says so---yeah right.
 

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kartr said:
All very good points and I'll add to that not trying to trade Bledsoe and Henson to Cleveland for their 2nd round pick plus bringing back Vinny and drafting A. Rogers or J. Campbell.


Not to be rude....but are you on drugs?

It sounds like some crazy scenario that would only be thought as a possibility if someone was taking some kind of drugs...whether over the counter, behind the counter or illegal.

Once again not being rude but man alive you come up with some crazy stuff....scary thing is...I am not sure you are joking when you do it.
 

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Alexander said:
What led you to believe that this was even a possibility? Why would they trade for Bledsoe and Henson? And how would we get Campbell if he went to the Commanders in the first round?

This ought to be a good one.



Like Carter. Yes, I believe we all understand.

Cleveland had Campbell in for workout and it was rumoured that they would take in the 2nd, that's why the Commanders traded up in the first to get Campbell. We could have taken Campbell ahead of the 'skins and screwed up their plans then offered Cleveland a package of Drews before they traded for Dilfer;even Bledsoe is an upgrade over Dilfer, Cleveland could have saved their 3rd rounder that used on Fry for something else, since they'd have their qb of the present and future in the trade with Dallas.

As for Carter, he's had just 34 starts compared to Bledsoe. And Leftwich,Vick,McCown,Harrington,Carr,etc. I'm going to give players with a 3rd of the experience much more leeway, which seems fair to me.

PS. At least Carter has gotten a couple of teams to the playoffs recently, while Bledsoe has underachieved for the last 6-7 years.
 

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kartr said:
Cleveland had Campbell in for workout and it was rumoured that they would take in the 2nd, that's why the Commanders traded up in the first to get Campbell. We could have taken Campbell ahead of the 'skins and screwed up their plans then offered Cleveland a package of Drews before they traded for Dilfer;even Bledsoe is an upgrade over Dilfer, Cleveland could have saved their 3rd rounder that used on Fry for something else, since they'd have their qb of the present and future in the trade with Dallas.

As for Carter, he's had just 34 starts compared to Bledsoe. And Leftwich,Vick,McCown,Harrington,Carr,etc. I'm going to give players with a 3rd of the experience much more leeway, which seems fair to me.

PS. At least Carter has gotten a couple of teams to the playoffs recently, while Bledsoe has underachieved for the last 6-7 years.


Nevermind my previous question....I think you answered it with this post. :eek:
 

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kartr said:
Cleveland had Campbell in for workout and it was rumoured that they would take in the 2nd, that's why the Commanders traded up in the first to get Campbell. We could have taken Campbell ahead of the 'skins and screwed up their plans then offered Cleveland a package of Drews before they traded for Dilfer;even Bledsoe is an upgrade over Dilfer, Cleveland could have saved their 3rd rounder that used on Fry for something else, since they'd have their qb of the present and future in the trade with Dallas.

What on earth are you talking about?

That made zero sense.

The Commanders were targeting Campbell in the first round. So that means we would have had to have taken him with the 20th pick. You would have done that? Or specifically, are you suggesting that we would have done that? Or are you just making up garbage again?

As for Carter, he's had just 34 starts compared to Bledsoe. And Leftwich,Vick,McCown,Harrington,Carr,etc. I'm going to give players with a 3rd of the experience much more leeway, which seems fair to me.

PS. At least Carter has gotten a couple of teams to the playoffs recently, while Bledsoe has underachieved for the last 6-7 years.

I am firmly convinced this is all an act.

If not, you either need rehab or therapy or both.

Much like your idol.

Holy moly, maybe you are Quincy Carter!:eek:
 

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blindzebra said:
More BS, prove it.

Romo is listed 2nd at Fox, on a depth chart that has Singleton and Dat starting at OLB in the 3-4, Ellis at LDE, Coleman at RDE, and what would be an inactive Henson as the first team holder.

Every publication I've seen, and I've looked at Lindy's, PFW, and the Sporting News, and all talk about Bledsoe holding down the fort for Henson.


No publication can tell you with any authority that Henson will be as good or I should say as bad as Hutchinson. No precedent for a guy who's played as little college football and been completely away from the game for a number of years ever amounting as anything. If Henson succeeds, he'll be the first and there's not much chance at that,otherwise, Houston would have gotten the bidding war for Henson's services that they wanted, instead of having to settle for the 3rd rounder that they rooked Dallas out of. But don't take my word for it, I dare you to find anything anywhere that says that any team made any offer for Henson after watching his workout. Dallas signed him,but they made no initial offer, Houston called them back later and begged them to take him for a 3rd round pick. From what I read, his work out was very disappointing and comments such as 'I didn't see the accuracy or mechanics' of a first round pick and 'he aint going to help anybody anytime soon'. Maybe that's why we had him throwing 5000 passes in 3 months to help his accuracy after being back in football for a year. Even Carter and Hutch or Romo didn't have to work that hard on their accuracy.
 

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kartr said:
Houston called them back later and begged them to take him for a 3rd round pick.

Source?

From what I read, his work out was very disappointing and comments such as 'I didn't see the accuracy or mechanics' of a first round pick and 'he aint going to help anybody anytime soon'.

It appears to me you are just making these things up as you go along in a vain attempt to give your opinions some credibility.
 

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blindzebra said:
Which player aren't we drafting to make this happen?

Every player we took filled a major need, yep great idea, let's draft for depth and not have any starters at DE or OLB.:rolleyes:

You seem to be forgetting, all we needed on the D-line after signing Ferguson was Merriman at RDE. Our defense didn't fail because we weren't running the 3-4. It failed cause we didn't have a good RDE and RCB. All we had to do was draft Merriman and move him to RDE where he played in college last year;keep a productive player like Coakley at OLB,draft Eric Green to backup Anthony Henry for a couple of years until he was ready to take over and draft Courtney Roby who is huge upgrade over Quincy Morgan,Patrick Crayton and Terrance Copper and Ray Willis in the 4th for RT and Jason Jefferson to back up Fergie and either Ryan Grant in FA or Cedric Houston in the 6th to back JUJO. My draft covers every need, gives us depth at receiver,d-line,corner and gives us players to build upon for the future. None of the backup corners other than Aaron Glenn are any good, that's why we got Henry and Glenn and Glenn is old. Newman is already 26, so he's not too young either.. My draft leaves no glaring weaknesses either.
 

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blindzebra said:
Nope, at least Nors knows about football and what he makes up is all stuff that could happen, Kartr makes up stuff that he claims did happen that didn't.

I can prove everything I say and I know enough that my mockdraft players for the most part are playing very well for other teams. Hey, I didn't draft Jacob Rogers, a LT to play RT, who is also injury prone. I didn't draft Bruce whatshisname to play corner and I didn't draft Sean Ryan when we already had 4 TE's on the roster,but not enough good d-linemen. I would have taken Bert Berry over Marcellus Wiley and Adalius Thomas over Al Singleton. I also would taken John Henderson over Roy Williams and Lamont Thompson in the 2nd in 2002 and I would have taken Kevin Williams over Newman in 2003. Don't know anything about football....well, I know who to pick in the draft.
 
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