What would you do about Roy? Trade him?

junk;1715136 said:
Apparently until people get it right.

Ed Reed has 31 INTs and 5 FF in the past 5 seasons (and 6 games this year). A total of 36. That doesn't include fumbles recovered (4).

I'm also not sure your stats on Roy Williams are correct. For some reason, nfl.com doesn't show his entire stat breakout like Reed, but ESPN only shows 8 forced fumbles in Roy's career. CNN/SI (STATS) matches this (and notes 8 FR....which matches your 16 total). Ed Reed's stats are consistent. Bottom line: Ed Reed - 40, Roy - 35

That also doesn't include the blocked punts, punts returned for TDs, etc.

The Ravens pass defense has also had the following rankings since 2002:

2006: Overall - 1st, Pass - 6th
2005: Overall - 5th, Pass - 8th
2004: Overall - 6th, Pass - 10th
2003: Overall - 3rd, Pass - 4th
2002: Overall - 22nd, Pass - 26th

Dallas since 2002:
2006: Overall - 13th, Pass - 24th
2005: Overall - 10th, Pass - 11th
2004: Overall - 16th, Pass - 21st
2003: Overall - 1st, Pass - 1st
2002: Overall - 18th, Pass - 19th

Why is trying to bash Reed part of the obligatory defense for Roy? He's a terrific football player and I'd take him over Roy every day of the week and twice on Tuesday.

OH SNAP and if anyone still debates that Roy is in Ed Reed category they are just in fantasy land. Baltimore actually feels comfortable leaving Redd in coverage Roy not so much.
 
stasheroo;1713672 said:
Hard to hide a strong safety that has coverage 'issues' all the time.

not really, considering most strong safeties have "coverage issues" or else they wouldn't be safeties. yet every other team in the league seems to "hide" them just fine.
 
Zimmy Lives;1715610 said:
First, let me state that I am not in favor of trading/benching/shooting/stabbing Roy Williams. What does disappointment me, however, is that the season is six games old and I do not see a difference (production-wise) in how he is used this season as opposed to last season. I was hoping he could be a difference-making playmaker in this new scheme.
Code:
      Tackles  PD  Sacks  FF  INT 
2006    63     14    0    0    5
2007    33      2    0    0    2
 
* Projected for 2007
        88      6    0    0    6
 
Projections are the worst thing ever. Here you go...

Sean Taylor
Projections for 2007
Tackles: 61
Pass defenses: 26
INTs: 13
FF: 3

The problem with this is Sean Taylor isn't going to face Brett Farve unless it's in the postseason. Likewise, Roy isn't going to face Trent Edwards or Trent Green again.
 
firehawk350;1715740 said:
Projections are the worst thing ever. Here you go...

Sean Taylor
Projections for 2007
Tackles: 61
Pass defenses: 26
INTs: 13
FF: 3

The problem with this is Sean Taylor isn't going to face Brett Farve unless it's in the postseason. Likewise, Roy isn't going to face Trent Edwards or Trent Green again.

Unlike Taylor (one interception last season), Roy has sustained a high level of playmaking over time. He had five interceptions last season, so a projection of six is realistic. A projection of 13 interceptions for Taylor is not.
 
Roy is what he is-a hard hitter w/ limited coverage skills. What gets me this season is that his tackling hasn't been solid. For that to be his niche, so to speak, he's missing far too many tackles this season. He reminds me of my son on his little league team; always looking for the KO when a nice form tackle would do the trick! Wrap up, Roy, wrap up!
 
BehindEnemyLinez;1715826 said:
Roy is what he is-a hard hitter w/ limited coverage skills. What gets me this season is that his tackling hasn't been solid. For that to be his niche, so to speak, he's missing far too many tackles this season. He reminds me of my son on his little league team; always looking for the KO when a nice form tackle would do the trick! Wrap up, Roy, wrap up!

When's the last time Roy missed a tackle?
 
baj1dallas;1715719 said:
not really, considering most strong safeties have "coverage issues" or else they wouldn't be safeties. yet every other team in the league seems to "hide" them just fine.

Landry doesnt have coverage issues:D...so far at least
 
firehawk350;1715740 said:
Projections are the worst thing ever. Here you go...

Sean Taylor
Projections for 2007
Tackles: 61
Pass defenses: 26
INTs: 13
FF: 3

The problem with this is Sean Taylor isn't going to face Brett Farve unless it's in the postseason. Likewise, Roy isn't going to face Trent Edwards or Trent Green again.


Those are some NICE looking projections though!:p:
 

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