What's the bigger issue? The OC or QB

[phildadon86]

Quarterback.

Let’s get an actual starting caliber one in here.

It opens up the OC’s playbook. I’m not completely defending Moore here but you can’t tell me he’s limited in what pass plays he can call because of his quarterbacks limitations.

So its not Moore? The guy who took Zeke out of the game when he was running all over TB?

Dak had a horrible night. A good OC sees that his QB is playing badly and takes the ball out of his hands and plays to the strength. That night it was Zeke. Not only did he stop running the ball. He put Pollard in the game who wasn't near as effective that night.

Pretty easy to figure out the issue here.

 

[fivetwos]

Did you know teams adjust in how they defend you when there's more tape to look at?

Yeah I had an idea.

I'm not defending Prescott, he is limited beyond any doubt, but the way Jerry wants Moore to handle him and this scheme gives him virtually zero chance to succeed.

He flat out isn't going to be a prolific pocket passer.

I figured since they didn't seem to care about WR in the offseason that they may have made some radical scheme changes.

Just goes to prove that there's no real plan here, and/or they have absolutely zero clue.

 

[CWR]

It's KM. No one is going to thrive in these conditions. Sure you can find half a dozen guys in the world that can do better, but there is a limit. Our offense has been decoded and its obvious if we don't have far superior talent we can not succeed. We are at a coaching disadvantage.

 

[CouchCoach]

This has one simple answer. What happens if the plays called are executed?

 

[Tabascocat]

I’ll pick my poison…….hmm, Dak it is!

 

[Doomsday]

Both need to be better, but KM is the bigger problem for me.

OC is more than just play calling, you have to get the players prepared as well.

 

[TNCowboy]

IMO, Moore's not up to the job, but that aside, as Broadus pointed out we had open receivers running everywhere the other night and Dak often didn't see them, and frequently made terrible throws when he did.

He's just a jag. Paying him like he's a stud won't change that. If Dak were a FA next off season, he wouldn't get half his current salary.

Of course, if we had a legit GM, the organization would have never gone that direction. All issues are minor compares to the giant shadow Jones casts over all things Dallas Cowboys.

 

[Fritsch_the_cat]

Why do you always have to be a rebel, John?

 

[morat1959]

QB

Linehan was “horrible” once Dak got here even tho Romo had an MVP type season with him


Dak is a coach-killer

Nailed it!

 

[morat1959]

I think Kellen is limited in what he can do with Dak at QB.

I'm not a Kellen fan, but I believe he is better at his job than Dak is at his.

It's not a drastic difference between them, but Dak is just worse.

My thoughts exactly!

 

[Big_D]

Yeah I had an idea.

I'm not defending Prescott, he is limited beyond any doubt, but the way Jerry wants Moore to handle him and this scheme gives him virtually zero chance to succeed.

He flat out isn't going to be a prolific pocket passer.

I figured since they didn't seem to care about WR in the offseason that they may have made some radical scheme changes.

Just goes to prove that there's no real plan here, and/or they have absolutely zero clue.

Agreed.. I thought after the playoff debacle that some philosophical changes would be made on offense? This is ridiculous.

 

[RodeoJake]

I went Dak. I don't have much confidence in KM, but Dak changes a lot of plays at the line. Hard to know if it's the play calling or Dak not knowing what he's seeing. I'm pretty sure he just ain't a QB that elevates those around him.

 

[Starstruck22]

it is true. He starts the season with the worst performance of his career. No starts in preseason to get him ready???? I am not getting McCarthy’s decision making. He will be fired mid season like Scott Frost of Nebraska. He is done. Dark and Zak both need to go, We need a true head coach.

 

[Portnoy1]

I blame Moore. Dak clearly has limitations, and he's not Rodgers or Brady but he's also not trash either. He's an above average QB. With that said, Moore doesn't do things to help. Easy throws, leaning on the Run game when it's working etc. Limiting gadget plays when we have a team on there heels. Who were the cowboys attacking on the buccaneers defense? Because on the other end it was clear the Buccaneers were attacking our corners "Diggs" in the run game and yielded results.

 

[CowboyFrog]

We've got an OC trying to run an offense that isn't best suited to the QB. I'm picking OC just because they're easier to replace than a starting QB.

But if this season goes down the tubes and we're picking in the top 10, I'm taking a look at the 2023 QB draft class. I don't expect Jerry will agree.

This...

 

[MountaineerCowboy]

The INT plus the almost INT should tell anyone who watches who the problem is.

 

[CouchCoach]

I think the root of the problem is not either but in the directions given to the OC from management.

It is all ego driven. Booger wants a Ferrari of a QB to market and he brags about him like he is a Ferrari but he is not. Even the majority of Daksters would agree that he is not top 6 or 7 in the NFL.

If you need proof, just look back to how he and his son have been selling Prescott even before re-signing him. Which is dumb.

If you need further proof, look back to Romo's last contract when Booger said Romo was the only QB that could play behind that OL.

When they got cornered and had to do that contract, the die was cast, they had to prove to the football world they had made a good decision.

You didn't buy that Booger BS that the team ran through Elliott, did you? He lies, he does it all the time.

Moore has to make Prescott look like 40M because this team is all about how they make the owner look.

 

[Silverstar]

I've seen enough of both, but Dak needs be better throwing the ball and when to run with it.

 

[Josh]

I could see a combination of both but have to lean more to Dak as the problem. When you make poor decisions, miss wide open WRs and force into triple coverage you can’t blame that on the OC. Dak has never been consistent unless it’s garbage time or against horrible teams.

 

[Sheepherder]

It should be all of the above, but right now it's Kellen Moore since Dak is on the hook for awhile. You have to get an experienced OC in here and move on from Moore.

So its not Moore? The guy who took Zeke out of the game when he was running all over TB?

Dak had a horrible night. A good OC sees that his QB is playing badly and takes the ball out of his hands and plays to the strength. That night it was Zeke. Not only did he stop running the ball. He put Pollard in the game who wasn't near as effective that night.

Pretty easy to figure out the issue here.

I'm like you. Funny thing is they didn't follow up on what they said they were gonna do. I was starting to cheer for Zeke again.