What's the delay on the releases?

[CF74]

Seems like alot of teams are already unloading some players..what's taking so long to release some of our "no brainers"?

Henry making 5 million next year as a 4th CB

Ellis making 6.6 million as a whiny OLB that plays 15 plays a game.

RW making 7 million as a liability in the passing game.

Is Jerry just assessing the roster right now? Because I can't imagine why these guys are on the roster right now. We can save a ton of money.

Just waiting for the combine? Or you think he's planning doing some trading during the draft?

I personally would like to see Bobby and Henry to Miami for a 4th. Similiar to what we did last year with Akin and Fasano. Akin was a cost cut just like Henry and Bowles loves him.

What I wanna know is why there aren't performance laden type provisions in these block buster contracts? Aside from injuries, if a player gets paid and then starts to get fat and lazy, his salary needs to drop and so does this darn cap hit we keep hearing about. Does Jerry have some crappy lawyers or what???:bang2:

 

[Alexander]

Is Jerry just assessing the roster right now? Because I can't imagine why these guys are on the roster right now. We can save a ton of money.

You obviously believed that "woodshed" nonsense.

 

[Audiman]

From what I understand, if we cut Greg Ellis, we are losing a very solid pass rusher....

he's NOT A GOOD PASS RUSHER!!

when 2 of your fellow DLinemen are drawing double protection, it's easy to get pressure.

DWare and JRatliff were both drawing two men almost everytime. the fact that he didn't have more sacks/tackles is proof that he isn't worth his money.

also, Anthony Henry is old and slow. he doesn't need to start as a CB next year.

 

[AbeBeta]

he's NOT A GOOD PASS RUSHER!!

when 2 of your fellow DLinemen are drawing double protection, it's easy to get pressure.

DWare and JRatliff were both drawing two men almost everytime. the fact that he didn't have more sacks/tackles is proof that he isn't worth his money.

First, whoever is blocking Ratliff wouldn't be too likely to be helping on Ellis b/c Greg is coming from the outside.

Second, if it is SO easy, why haven't other guys in that spot, e.g., Al Singleton, had similar performances? Ellis has over 20 sacks in two seasons -- not even two full seasons at that. That's outstanding production.

 

[28 Joker]

Greg Ellis counts $ 6.25 million against the cap. That's what he will cost to keep. His base salary will be $ 4.15 million. According to some sources I looked at (including Clarence Hill), Ellis will save the Cowboys 5.6 million dollars if he is cut.

Is Greg Ellis worth $ 6.25 million to keep?

No. Cut him or trade him and save $ 5.6 million bucks. Other teams wouldn't hesitate to cut him and save this money. The Cowboys have averaged 10.1 wins since 2005, with a mode of 9. Plug in the younger player, a number one pick, and move on. It's called fiscal responsibility.


Anthony Henry will count $5.6 million dollars to keep in 2009. He is due a $ 1 million dollar roster bonus. Cutting Henry will save $ 3.6 million dollars for the Cowboys to use else where. Henry has a base salary of 2.6 million, plus a $ 1 million dollar roster bonus. The Cowboys have two younger, cheaper, and faster players to replace Henry. (Again, see Greg Ellis)

Is Anthony Henry worth $ 5.6 million dollars to keep? No.

Cut or trade him. It should be a no brainer. Two young players are on the roster and ready to compete for that job. Heny isn't the answer at safety. Allan Ball played well against Tampa Bay and when he played. He moves up.


Cutting Henry and Ellis would save Dallas $ 9.2 million dollars, but they would cost you $ 11.85 million dollars to keep.


I'm not the cap guru, but just look at what it costs to keep these two players.

If I'm correct in what I've read, cutting Roy Williams allows Dallas not to pay $ 9 million dollars owed to Roy Williams over the next 2 years. $2.4 million dollars would be saved against the 2009 cap.

Roy says that the 3-4 doesn't suite him. I would let him go. The "in the box" safety just doesn't fit the game, anymore. The game has changed. Williams isn't even a three down player, anymore.

That's $ 11.85 million + $ 2.4 million = $ 14.25 million dollars saved.


Greg Ellis
Anthony Henry
Roy Williams

In my opinion, all these players should be cut or traded if possible.


I don't think Bobby Carpenter is safe, either. He might be dealt to a certain coach in Miami. I would shop Crayton, too.

 

[AbeBeta]

The Cowboys have averaged 10.1 wins since 2005, with a mode of 9.

That's a stupid statistic.

Here's the one that matters.

The Cowboys have averaged 0 playoff wins a year since 1997. With a mode of 0. What the hell. The median number of playoff wins is also 0.

 

[LandryFan]

Brad Johnson we save over 2 million in cap space. Can't undertand why we haven't cut him already?

I might be wrong, but I thought BJ was an UFA. If so, no need to cut him, just let the FA period begin and he's history.
Does anyone know if he is UFA?

 

[Oh_Canada]

Greg Ellis finished with 8 sacks, but look at his season. I will ignore his bad attitude and need to run to Uncle Jerry. The guy didn't come out of a game one time when he was asked to come out, but let's stick to his production on the field.

For the first 9 weeks, Ellis had 3 sacks. During this stretch, Ellis had a seven game stretch where he recorded 1 sack. Two sacks came in week 2 against the Eagles.

During weeks 11-17, Ellis recorded 5 sacks. 2.5 of those sacks came against the Giants, and their RT left that game with an injury.

Ellis turns 34 in August. It's time to move on. Third down rushers don't make what Ellis is going to cost in cap room next season. If 4.5 million can be saved by cutting Ellis, like TLCC stated, then, it's a no brainer.

Anthony Spencer belongs to Dallas. He's their guy. They drafted him number 26 overall in round 1.

Time to let him play every down, or you can continue to take him off the field on third down and play a declining, aging, complaining, and selfish player.

By the way, Amonte Toomer is still running.

I agree with you, if there is ONE player who needs to go it's Ellis...he has a loser mentality and will always be a loser....buh bye.

They can probably sign Kalimba Edwards for half the price and let Spencer start who will match his production with his PT at the very minimum.

 

[BigDFan5]

What I wanna know is why there aren't performance laden type provisions in these block buster contracts? Aside from injuries, if a player gets paid and then starts to get fat and lazy, his salary needs to drop and so does this darn cap hit we keep hearing about. Does Jerry have some crappy lawyers or what???:bang2:

Find an agent of a healthy player who will accept that kind of contract and I will show you an agent with no players

 

[jobberone]

he's NOT A GOOD PASS RUSHER!!

when 2 of your fellow DLinemen are drawing double protection, it's easy to get pressure.

DWare and JRatliff were both drawing two men almost everytime. the fact that he didn't have more sacks/tackles is proof that he isn't worth his money.

also, Anthony Henry is old and slow. he doesn't need to start as a CB next year.

See AbeBeta below. If you have a replacement then I agree. If you don't then you can't cut him. You could offer him to restructure but I doubt he'd do it and restructuring implies more years which I wouldn't do. It all depends on replacing him. You can't go into a 'SB year' with no backup at OLB in a 3-4. No pass rush is a disaster for this defense.

First, whoever is blocking Ratliff wouldn't be too likely to be helping on Ellis b/c Greg is coming from the outside.

Second, if it is SO easy, why haven't other guys in that spot, e.g., Al Singleton, had similar performances? Ellis has over 20 sacks in two seasons -- not even two full seasons at that. That's outstanding production.

Greg Ellis counts $ 6.25 million against the cap. That's what he will cost to keep. His base salary will be $ 4.15 million. According to some sources I looked at (including Clarence Hill), Ellis will save the Cowboys 5.6 million dollars if he is cut.

Is Greg Ellis worth $ 6.25 million to keep?

No. Cut him or trade him and save $ 5.6 million bucks. Other teams wouldn't hesitate to cut him and save this money. The Cowboys have averaged 10.1 wins since 2005, with a mode of 9. Plug in the younger player, a number one pick, and move on. It's called fiscal responsibility.


Anthony Henry will count $5.6 million dollars to keep in 2009. He is due a $ 1 million dollar roster bonus. Cutting Henry will save $ 3.6 million dollars for the Cowboys to use else where. Henry has a base salary of 2.6 million, plus a $ 1 million dollar roster bonus. The Cowboys have two younger, cheaper, and faster players to replace Henry. (Again, see Greg Ellis)

Is Anthony Henry worth $ 5.6 million dollars to keep? No.

Cut or trade him. It should be a no brainer. Two young players are on the roster and ready to compete for that job. Heny isn't the answer at safety. Allan Ball played well against Tampa Bay and when he played. He moves up.


Cutting Henry and Ellis would save Dallas $ 9.2 million dollars, but they would cost you $ 11.85 million dollars to keep.


I'm not the cap guru, but just look at what it costs to keep these two players.

If I'm correct in what I've read, cutting Roy Williams allows Dallas not to pay $ 9 million dollars owed to Roy Williams over the next 2 years. $2.4 million dollars would be saved against the 2009 cap.

Roy says that the 3-4 doesn't suite him. I would let him go. The "in the box" safety just doesn't fit the game, anymore. The game has changed. Williams isn't even a three down player, anymore.

That's $ 11.85 million + $ 2.4 million = $ 14.25 million dollars saved.


Greg Ellis
Anthony Henry
Roy Williams

In my opinion, all these players should be cut or traded if possible.


I don't think Bobby Carpenter is safe, either. He might be dealt to a certain coach in Miami. I would shop Crayton, too.

You must ask yourself who is going to play someone's position and how critical is that position for you, before cutting someone just for money. You're here to win not spend or save money although I'm not arguing it is not important. Just not as important as winning. Money is the tool to collect talent.

IMO, Ellis should go if you have a replacement. You can't go into a SB season without a 3rd OLB in the 3-4. Well, you can but it's very risky. I don't know who that replacement is. Do you?

RW should go unless they can find him a position to succeed better in just looking at money. I don't know what that position/scheme is although they could consider moving him to LB where I see zero chance of working. But are there at least two safeties on this team that are of the caliper this team needs? I don't know but I'd say no right now. Hopefully I'm wrong or either someone will step up in time. This team missed RW at times last year despite him not being the best cover safety you would like. That just says something about the position of safety on this team but it doesn't negate his relative value. Again can you replace him? I'd say yes but you could toss a coin for that answer AFAIK.

You have to have five CBs and 4 safeties. Can you cut Henry and replace him? Can he transition to safety? I'd say he can play FS and probably do it well, IMO. I'd keep him unless they can trade him for appropriate value.

Is Carpenter that bad? I don't know. Does he save you that much money that it's worth cutting him? Don't know? I'd say no until they can upgrade the position of ILB. I don't see him as an OLB.

Crayton is not going to save that much money nor bring you as could a pick as you'd like. I'd keep him.

JMO.