What's the Difference between a "Key" Player Loss and a "Regular" Player Loss?

[kmd24]

TO is not a key loss. At all (SIC). He was bad for the Eagles!

I find it mildly amusing that you would use [sic] there, given that your original post included at least two misspelled words and a couple of grammar mistakes.

To answer your question regarding Tucker, I will quote from your original post:

As such the strength of the OL is measure by the weakest OL player.

Tucker was easily the weakest OL that saw the field in 2005. Some may argue that Larry Allen graded out worse, but the impact of Tucker's missed assignments - particularly in pass protection - easily overshadow Allen's failings, IMO.

By your own reasoning, any replacement that is stronger than Tucker strengthens the OL. I am not 100% certain, but I would guess that the player replacing Tucker is Fabini. In other words, Fabini would be the first replacement for Adams should he need to leave the game.

Since Fabini is a Parcells guy, I doubt he will need much schooling in the system. Since the LG is likely to be Kosier, Tucker would not have had any chemistry advantage over Fabini. Finally, take BP's comment that Fabini wouldn't give up 13(?) sacks if he lined him up backwards, and I think you have the picture of a significant upgrade at backup left tackle.

Like lspain, I think your argument that a player need not produce eye popping stats or make highlight reels to be a key loss has merit. But whether the loss is "key" must be determined on a case by case basis.

In the end, you are arguing sEmantics. Let's quit worrying about whether the loss of Tucker (or anyone else) is "key" or "regular" and just get to the meat of the issue - the impact on the team. In this case, it is pretty clear that the impact is negligible, even to the OL coach (unless Tucker was picking up coach's drycleaning, washing his car on Tuesdays, or something else of that nature unbeknowst to the rest of us). Perhaps the only player affected will be Ware, whose confidence might wane when he is actually facing NFL caliber talent in practice instead of the sack of potatoes the Cowboys trotted out as the LT.

Give up the ghost on this one, PT.

 

[Funxva]

Thta was no loss ...that was disposal!

I woudl post your 3000th post elsewhere, my friend. You dont' want to remember this thread when you remember that landmark.

 

[Phoenix-Talon]

...both are not proactive in promoting thoughtful discussion on the boards.

You Mean like your post of emoticons!

 

[Vintage]

You Mean like your post of emoticons!

Which, coincidentally, I admitted was nothing more than a joke and had no football relevance.

Which, coincidentally, was also void of any real discussion pertaining to intelligent football discussion.

Which, coincidentally, is just like this thread.

And you STILL have yet to answer me.

You still haven't answered me. What is so "key" about losing a OT that would have been 5th on depth charts, probably been cut anyway, and gave up 12.5 sacks in 10 games?

What is so key about that loss?

Edited for a typo.

 

[Phoenix-Talon]

Oh.

So disposing of Owens will have less of an impact to your team, seeing as how he was your #1 WR....What is so key about that loss?

Sure! TO's "Key" disposal removes a disruptive element from the team's core. Allows our team leaders freedom to get the cooperation we need to function as one element all Moving toward the same goals.

I'd Venture to say that I'd take a well disciplined WR corp Over one that is constantly causing problems, anyday during the official regular NFL season!

 

[Phoenix-Talon]

Which, coincidentally, was also void of any real discussion pertaining to intelligence football discussion.

Dude ...you just said one Helova mouthful that Time!

 

[Vintage]

Sure! TO's "Key" disposal removes a disruptive element from the team's core. Allows our team leaders freedom to get the cooperation we need to function as one element all Moving toward the same goals.
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TO didn't want to win?

Oddly enough, weren't there quite a few people in the locker room who sided with Owens?

Did you get rid of them too?

 

[Phoenix-Talon]

I woudl post your 3000th post elsewhere, my friend. You dont' want to remember this thread when you remember that landmark.

Thanks Funxval ...I did. But I appreciate the gesture.

 

[5Stars]

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[2233boys]

Originally Posted by Phoenix-Talon
Sure! TO's "Key" disposal removes a disruptive element from the team's core. Allows our team leaders freedom to get the cooperation we need to function as one element all Moving toward the same goals!

The best wr in football isn't a Key loss for you even though you have no one to throw the football to anymore that teams fear, but Dallas's at best 4th OT is a key loss...

I am confused because, TO wasn't your issue last year McNabb was and he is still there. Tucker was a big part of our line problem last year and he is gone.

 

[BigDFan5]

IMO...Absolutely Nothing!

Sorry PT but there is a difference IMO. The dictionary defines Key as "A vital, crucial element." Which is the what that most sportscasters, football fans and their ilk would define it. A key member of the team is a player who actually helps the team. Tucker was the worst tackle in football last season calling him a "key" player is incorrect,

 

[Stash]

Sure! TO's "Key" disposal removes a disruptive element from the team's core. Allows our team leaders freedom to get the cooperation we need to function as one element all Moving toward the same goals.

And yet they kept the gutless, crybaby quarterback whose "company-man" stance has alienated his teammates? You know, the guy that none of his teammates sided with during the whole fiasco?

I'd Venture to say that I'd take a well disciplined WR corp Over one that is constantly causing problems, anyday during the official regular NFL season!

Sure, but where are the Eagles going to get a receiving corps like that at this point in the year?

I love the "math"!

You somehow try to twist logic where Torrible Tucker is somehow a "key loss" and Terrell Owens isn't?

 

[5Stars]

Does anyone know where I can send in a nominee for the "Darwin Award of The Year"?

I think that PhoneticTalon can win it, hands down! His posts of the last few months since we signed "The Devil" have been some of the stupidest things I have ever read!

This "Darwin Award" could be PT's "15 minutes" of fame!

 

[lurkercowboy]

It is simple.

A "key player" is any player that Dallas loses to retirement, free agency, trade, or injury.

A "regular player" is any player Dallas gains due to drafting, free agency, trade, or recovering from an injury.

 

[Funxva]

It is simple.

A "key player" is any player that Dallas loses to retirement, free agency, trade, or injury.

A "regular player" is any player Dallas gains due to drafting, free agency, trade, or recovering from an injury.

Genius! :