Whats the key to beating the eagles? blitz!

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superpunk;1067427 said:
There's no need for lies. ;)
LOL

The question is, will he accept it this time, or fall back to bad habits and plant his feet in the ground to fight?
 

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Hostile;1067415 said:
Hate to tell you that you're wrong, but you are. That was NOT a slow defense by any wild stretch.

McNabb simply made us pay dearly for that one.

Sorry, but you are in the wrong here, we did not blitz a single player on that play, it was a 4 down lineman rush only

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6HJXa481NqE

McNabb just outruns our slow defensive linemen
 

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ABQCOWBOY;1067446 said:
He won't outrun out LBs if we stay disciplined.

That wasnt Hostile's point though, now was it? You can't claim a play is a result of overblitzing when we didnt blitz anybody.
 

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HeavyHitta31;1067448 said:
That wasnt Hostile's point though, now was it? You can't claim a play is a result of overblitzing when we didnt blitz anybody.


I don't really care what the point of that post was. I was not commenting on it one way or the other. I was making a statement about how I thought our defense could be succesful against McNabb.

Relax man. I know your taking the loss to TT tough and all but not everything is a personal thing. Sometimes, it's actually about the subject matter as opposed to a silly school girl argument.

;)
 

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ABQCOWBOY;1067458 said:
I don't really care what the point of that post was. I was not commenting on it one way or the other. I was making a statement about how I thought our defense could be succesful against McNabb.

Relax man. I know your taking the loss to TT tough and all but not everything is a personal thing. Sometimes, it's actually about the subject matter as opposed to a silly school girl argument.

;)

Ouch.... :(
 

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Hostile;1067415 said:
Hate to tell you that you're wrong, but you are. That was NOT a slow defense by any wild stretch.

McNabb simply made us pay dearly for that one.

Bueller? Bueller?
 

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HeavyHitta31;1067459 said:
We run a 3-4. You can't block 4 LBs with 5 O-Linemen

We'd Love that because it would suggest that your team Plans to give McNabb all day to throw the ball and that's a formula for doom!
 

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Phoenix-Talon;1067463 said:
We'd Love that because it would suggest that your team Plans to give McNabb all day to throw the ball and that's a formula for doom!

He's going to be throwing to 2nd and 3rd string WRs. We shouldsnt give him all day, but he wont be picking us apart regardless
 

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cowboys#1;1067326 said:
1) pressure mcnabb with surprise blitzes on 1st down
2) if he plays, man up brian westbrook with safety help on all plays
3) Blitzing on every 3rd down and let t-new and a-hen do thier magic, hopefully mcnabb makes mistakes
No, no, no! The blitz must be used very judiciously this Sunday. Philly runs lots of different types of screens and Westbrook is a dangerous runner. The front three plus a linebacker should be able to get enough pressure, and our secondary is more than capable of matching up against the Eagles' receivers.

The key to the game on defense is stopping Brian Westbrook, and since the Eagles rarely run the ball, that means primarily screen and swing passes. Take a look at the stats from the last four games against us, Brian Westbrook is their offense.
 

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HeavyHitta31;1067440 said:
Sorry, but you are in the wrong here, we did not blitz a single player on that play, it was a 4 down lineman rush only

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6HJXa481NqE

McNabb just outruns our slow defensive linemen
No, I'm not wrong, you're talking about one single play and no blitz and you maintained it was a "slow as a sloth" defense. I didn't. The fact is we had some very fast players on that defense and the reason we weren't blitzing on that play has nothing to do with the fact that McNabb was chased out of the pocket and once he is out of the pocket he can kill a team.

One play versus an entire philosophy HH. I know that's asking a lot, but try and visualize. I'm talking about how he is dangerous out of the pocket, not that he was blitzed on that play. Focus, for a change, focus.

Whether it is by blitz or not Mcnabb was out of the pocket improvising. By blitzing you invite him to leave the pocket. If you don't grasp that you need to get back to that point first before you go on.

Get your feet out of the ground on this one HH because I'll make you look bad. You said something rash and I called you on it. It is okay to admit that. In the long run you look less foolish. See "30 YS" for reference. ;)
 

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HeavyHitta31;1067448 said:
That wasnt Hostile's point though, now was it? You can't claim a play is a result of overblitzing when we didnt blitz anybody.
Again, that isn't what I claimed.

The key word here is "contain."
 

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Phoenix-Talon;1067453 said:
Just a thought, our OL may have a little input in that formula.

They might but they did give up four sacks last night. Your running game rushed for 84 yards on 20 carries. I don't include McNabb in this total because that, to me is improvised more then designed. The average yard per rush is OK at 4.2 but I don't believe you will be able to do that against our defense. If you can run the football succesfully, I think you have a better then average chance of beating us. I just don't think you can do it. If we can make your offense one dimensional, that is going to aid us a great deal in defensing McNabb. If we can make him throw from the pocket, I think our DBs will make plays in the secondary. Your TE is really the only one who scares me much. To me, you limit McNabb and you win this football game. If your OL can create room to run, we'll probably lose. If we don't contain McNabb, it could be interesting but if we shut down your run and if we stay disciplined, I think we win comfortably.

That's how I see it.
 

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Hostile;1067474 said:
No, I'm not wrong, you're talking about one single play and no blitz and you maintained it was a "slow as a sloth" defense. I didn't. The fact is we had some very fast players on that defense and the reason we weren't blitzing on that play has nothing to do with the fact that McNabb was chased out of the pocket and once he is out of the pocket he can kill a team.

One play versus an entire philosophy HH. I know that's asking a lot, but try and visualize. I'm talking about how he is dangerous out of the pocket, not that he was blitzed on that play. Focus, for a change, focus.

Whether it is by blitz or not Mcnabb was out of the pocket improvising. By blitzing you invite him to leave the pocket. If you don't grasp that you need to get back to that point first before you go on.

Get your feet out of the ground on this one HH because I'll make you look bad. You said something rash and I called you on it. It is okay to admit that. In the long run you look less foolish. See "30 YS" for reference. ;)

The why would you respond to this:

That was more the product of a slow defense that couldnt pursue a sloth than over blitzing

By arguing that I was wrong about us not overblitzing? Maybe it's just me, but I think you could classify 4 D-Linemen vs McNabb a speed mismatch. Those guys were slow. Our 2004 D-Line had zero containment ability.

Seems to me that you had a hazy memory of that play and just blindly threw it out as an example of us overblitzing McNabb when in fact we did not.
 

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Hostile;1067476 said:
Again, that isn't what I claimed.

The key word here is "contain."

There was no need to respond to the original post then, which was 100% about blitzing, or overblitzing if you view it that.

Breaking containment and running from a blitz are two different things
 

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HeavyHitta31;1067461 said:

LOL....


Sorry man, I could not resist taking a cheap shot on the Aggies/Raiders game. I appoligies. I acknowledge the fact that you may reserve the right to take a pot shot at me at some future date in regards to my Horns.

I have it coming.

:laugh2:
 
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