What's the obsession with Dak Prescott's contract?

[CowboyoWales]

So there isn't much to debate, provided everyone agrees with you.

Perhaps you're correct about having an average Head Coach, however, in the forthcoming years Perhaps the problem will be that we've seriously overspent on the offense only to lose due to an average Defence.

Perhaps you're correct that Dak and Romo have accomplished similar levels, but Perhaps following the strategy of the past will give a similar (unsuccessful) return. NB - Romo restructured his contract to help the team, Dak wanting a shorter contract hinders the team.

Perhaps some of us don't think that paying Dak north of $35m for 4 years is a good use of resources or that he's that elite difference making QB - if the market thinks so Perhaps he'll get that contract.

Give him the Franchise Tag and Perhaps he'll convince ALL fans that he deserves a contract in the vicinity of Mahomes/Jackson.

-It's looking likely that Dak will be playing on the franchise tag, although both sides want to reach a long-term extension.
- Yes, agree.
-Almost every QB who get an extension after their rookie deals, will receive a market level contract.
- Market level is determined by what another team is willing to pay.... the issue is that the market MAY become saturated by other quality QB's - Mahomes, Jackson and Watson. Its uncertain what the market is
-In 4 years as a starter, Dak has led his team to two divisional titles, won a playoff game and never has missed a start.
….who cares, to this point our coaching and defence indicate we MAY get to playoffs, but nowhere near a SB.
-All contracts made by Stephen Jones have built in restructures to give the team cap flexibility.
EXACTLY, AND IS THE REASON THE JONES' WANT A LONGER DEAL.
-What about Romo's dead money after he retired? That money could have been used to sign multiple fa starters.
- Romo put the team first at the time, so that a team could be built to compete...the dead money after injury and he retired is hardly his fault.
-QB's don't grow on trees, there are in such high demand and are always over drafted. Dak has his issues, like any other QB, but he is proven to be a quality QB in this league.
- You still seem to think the concerns evolve around Dak as a player.... NO, ITS THAT IF HE DOESNT TAKE A LONGER CONTRACT TO ALLOW RESTRUCTURING AND IMPROVE DEFENCE THERE'S NO POINT IN DALLAS HAVING A $35/$40M QB WHEN THE DEFENCE WILL ALWAYS LET YOU DOWN
[/QUOTE]

 

[jazzcat22]

Don't even know you're ignoring? Well, as you said, keep telling yourself that!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

whatever, I care less what you think or post from this point.

 

[Reid1boys]

I see multiple new threads everyday about the same subject matter-Dak Prescott's contract. The National media seem as obsessed as many on this board. There isn't much to debate:

-Ownership has come out and stated Dak Prescott is their franchise QB. He is under contract, team wants to sign him long-term and will not rescind the offer sheet under any circumstance.

-The likes of Goff/Wentz in his QB Class signed long-term extensions. Dak has arguable been as good if not better then the both of them. He will sign a market level contract. Many fans forget the post Aikman years at the position. It's quite comical that many have suggested they rather have Andy Dalton as the team's starting QB.

-Dak team's have accomplished the same level as did Romo, divisional rd of the playoffs. Both QB's have played on talented teams, but haven't been able to breakthrough. Perhaps having an average Head Coach has played a role in their lack of success.

Was Tony Romo ever paid in the top 3 at his position? I just looked and see Romo's last deal was a 6 year deal. Didnt see him saying hey, in 4 more years QB pay will be 30% higher than today, so I want XXXX amount for those last 2 years of the deal.

Face it, we are concerned about Dak's pay because of the cap, and that is it. i dont give one sh.. if Dak was getting paid 500 million of Jerry's money if it didnt screw the rest of the team over.

 

[CowboyRoy]

“Elite” (sigh)...I really hate that term as it’s often used here too...

well I don’t disagree I would hope folks would make points and also include some insight into their reasoning...

Only poster I have ever hear claim that Dak was elite and that was American. He also claimed that Quincy Carter was a talented QB with an incredible arm. NO one takes him seriously.

 

[kskboys]

whatever, I care less what you think or post from this point.

I'm so glad we had this time together.

 

[Cowboyny]

Was Tony Romo ever paid in the top 3 at his position? I just looked and see Romo's last deal was a 6 year deal. Didnt see him saying hey, in 4 more years QB pay will be 30% higher than today, so I want XXXX amount for those last 2 years of the deal.

Face it, we are concerned about Dak's pay because of the cap, and that is it. i dont give one sh.. if Dak was getting paid 500 million of Jerry's money if it didnt screw the rest of the team over.

All young QB's are going to get paid, no matter where they land on the pecking order. Kirk Cousins was never considered a top 3 QB, but I believe he was paid in that threshold. Like it or not, Dak is going to sign a contract similar to the one Wentz/Goff received last season. They set the market for a young starting QB receiving their 2nd contract.

 

[Cowboyny]

-It's looking likely that Dak will be playing on the franchise tag, although both sides want to reach a long-term extension.
- Yes, agree.
-Almost every QB who get an extension after their rookie deals, will receive a market level contract.
- Market level is determined by what another team is willing to pay.... the issue is that the market MAY become saturated by other quality QB's - Mahomes, Jackson and Watson. Its uncertain what the market is
-In 4 years as a starter, Dak has led his team to two divisional titles, won a playoff game and never has missed a start.
….who cares, to this point our coaching and defence indicate we MAY get to playoffs, but nowhere near a SB.
-All contracts made by Stephen Jones have built in restructures to give the team cap flexibility.
EXACTLY, AND IS THE REASON THE JONES' WANT A LONGER DEAL.
-What about Romo's dead money after he retired? That money could have been used to sign multiple fa starters.
- Romo put the team first at the time, so that a team could be built to compete...the dead money after injury and he retired is hardly his fault.
-QB's don't grow on trees, there are in such high demand and are always over drafted. Dak has his issues, like any other QB, but he is proven to be a quality QB in this league.
- You still seem to think the concerns evolve around Dak as a player.... NO, ITS THAT IF HE DOESNT TAKE A LONGER CONTRACT TO ALLOW RESTRUCTURING AND IMPROVE DEFENCE THERE'S NO POINT IN DALLAS HAVING A $35/$40M QB WHEN THE DEFENCE WILL ALWAYS LET YOU DOWN

[/QUOTE]

The market has been set by Wentz and Goff. They were taken in the same draft class and are comparable players.

 

[CowboyoWales]

The market has been set by Wentz and Goff. They were taken in the same draft class and are comparable players.[/QUOTE]

OK, we'll pay Dak about the same around 32m/34m per year - ive no problem with that region. However,

1) Goff was ridiculously overpaid for getting to a SB and so realistic market value is closer to Wentz deal.
2) Dak structures it in to help the possible Cap issues in the next 3 years.

 

[kskboys]

The market has been set by Wentz and Goff. They were taken in the same draft class and are comparable players.[/QUOTE]
And now it was just reset w/ Brady and Brees. So, we pay him 25 mil?

 

[Cowboyny]

The market has been set by Wentz and Goff. They were taken in the same draft class and are comparable players.

OK, we'll pay Dak about the same around 32m/34m per year - ive no problem with that region. However,

1) Goff was ridiculously overpaid for getting to a SB and so realistic market value is closer to Wentz deal.
2) Dak structures it in to help the possible Cap issues in the next 3 years.[/QUOTE]

Dak should get a contract in that Wentz range.

 

[Cowboyny]

The market has been set by Wentz and Goff. They were taken in the same draft class and are comparable players.

And now it was just reset w/ Brady and Brees. So, we pay him 25 mil?[/QUOTE]

Brees/Brady are completely different due to their ages. Both are year to year players at this point, in which either one or both could retire after the season. They both have made their money, they are looking for one more chance to win.

 

[kskboys]

And now it was just reset w/ Brady and Brees. So, we pay him 25 mil?

Brees/Brady are completely different due to their ages. Both are year to year players at this point, in which either one or both could retire after the season. They both have made their money, they are looking for one more chance to win.[/QUOTE]
Soooooo, there are other factors than just paying whatever everyone else got?

 

[Cowboyny]

Brees/Brady are completely different due to their ages. Both are year to year players at this point, in which either one or both could retire after the season. They both have made their money, they are looking for one more chance to win.

Soooooo, there are other factors than just paying whatever everyone else got?[/QUOTE]

Yes, a QB under 25 is far more valuable then a one close or over 40.

 

[Cmac]

Once you ask for your market value.....you instantly become a Fall Guy Nominee on this board.

 

[kskboys]

Soooooo, there are other factors than just paying whatever everyone else got?

Yes, a QB under 25 is far more valuable then a one close or over 40.[/QUOTE]
Correct. And then there's also categories of how good you are.

 

[kskboys]

Once you ask for your market value.....you instantly become a Fall Guy Nominee on this board.

Especially if you ask for more than your market value.

 

[nate dizzle]

Nobody more obsessed than Patrick Mahomes. Dude is sitting back waiting to ask for double whatever Dak gets.

 

[Cmac]

Especially if you ask for more than your market value.

....says who?

 

[Cmac]

Especially if you ask for more than your market value.

....and crickets when underpaid or outperforming contracts.

 

[cowboygo]

First off, the big issue is that total player salary is fixed. Every dollar one player gets is less money for others. This year we have watched Quinn and Jones walk just so we could pay Dak, Zeke, Tank and Cooper.

So let's start with your examples. How well did Dallas do once Romo got his big contract? People tend to forget that the first 3 years of Dak's career had Romo's dead contract on it. Romo never won anything because the D sucked when he was here but his contract played a part in that. Will the Eagles ever win anything with Wentz making that much? Will the Rams ever sniff another deep playoff run with Goff making that much money?

At the end of the day, having your QB on a bargain contract is a huge advantage. While its possible to do well with a QB on a big contract, its really hard and you need that guy playing like a superstar. Even then, those superstar QB's tend to get beat by some hot QB on his rookie deal surrounded by a lot of talent.

Dak getting a huge contract makes it harder for Dallas to be a great team. Its that simple.

What's the alternative? Well, Andy Dalton now. Which team is better? Dalton + 2 pro bowl defensive players or Dak + 2 vet min players?

How long does that alternative work? One year? Multiple years? The front office is tasked to keep the football team competitive. This isn't madden. Its not as simple as you are describing the alternative.