What's your opinion of Jason Campbell?

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A lot of jokes have been made about Quincy Campbell, but I am very happy with the way he has played this year. His stats this year:

81/124 (65.3%) for 878 yards, 6 tds, 0 turnovers, 7 sacks.

Most importantly, he has played very well in the fourth quarter:

26/36 (72.2%) for 350 yards, 2 tds.

Today he only went 3/4 for 19 yds in the fourth as we were able to run out the clock on the ground. My feeling is that he should be mentioned with Rodgers and Cutler as the cream of inexperienced QBs, but we have to wait a while longer to compare him to the Rivers, Romos, and Roethlisbergers. (And I realize that Romo doesn't have much more experience than Campbell, but I think he has already proven himself.)

Thoughts? Does anyone still think that that he is another Quincy Carter?
 

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Looked good today, that's for sure.

If he keeps it up, he will take the Skin's far.

Best division in Football...we all need the QB to step up and Jason did for you guys.
 

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Here's what really impresses me about this kid...

He looked LOST under Gibbs' simple system.

However-he's learned Zorn's complex WCO system VERY quickly.

How did he make this transition so quickly? Was Gibbs holding him back? Was Saunders' playbook too complicated?
 

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I liked him at Auburn but think you paid too high a price to acquire him. He had a great game yesterday. I still think he is the 4th best QB in the division though. He's in very good company.
 

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He's really taking some steps this year. A QB who can make the necessary throws and doesn't turn it over is a QB that's going to win games for you.

Plus, it appears he's actually starting to make things happen more often now than he was in previous years.
 

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Boysboy;2294744 said:
Here's what really impresses me about this kid...

He looked LOST under Gibbs' simple system.

However-he's learned Zorn's complex WCO system VERY quickly.

How did he make this transition so quickly? Was Gibbs holding him back? Was Saunders' playbook too complicated?

I think the Saunders system is really starting to be exposed in St. Louis. And I was a HUGE fan of that system, but its obvious that its far too complex to look good in, unless you are Todd Collins, who has been running it for 10 years!

Along with that, Campbell is finally getting a QB coach with a pro QB pedigree in Zorn. Bill Lazor was his previous QB coach (Bill who?)


Hostile;2294849 said:
I liked him at Auburn but think you paid too high a price to acquire him. He had a great game yesterday. I still think he is the 4th best QB in the division though. He's in very good company.

I still think it was a steep price also. If he is able to turn into a franchise QB, it'll be worth it, but 3 picks was an awful lot for a guy with decent stats his senior season

On an aside, I started to like the guy in the Sugar Bowl vs Virginia Tech. I went to the game, and the VT D had shut down the dual rushing attack of Brown and Williams. Campbell made the plays that got Auburn the close victory
 

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campbell is great at those 3 yard passes they run over and over again. i'm amazed they still work so well
 

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KLJ;2295037 said:
campbell is great at those 3 yard passes they run over and over again. i'm amazed they still work so well

...or that 53 yard bomb...you know, whichever...
 

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Sonny#9;2295043 said:
...or that 53 yard bomb...you know, whichever...
yea, i figured some Commander fan would focus on the exception rather than the rule.. i should have been more clear.. at least people with half a brain know what i am talking about..

the point is i am surprised more is not done to take those short passes away and make campbell make more dificult throws
 

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KLJ;2295053 said:
yea, i figured some Commander fan would focus on the exception rather than the rule.. i should have been more clear.. at least people with half a brain know what i am talking about..

the point is i am surprised more is not done to take those short passes away and make campbell make more dificult throws

Or the fact that he had a higher YPA then Romo yesterday. But don't let that spoil your delusion.

Wait a sec...wasn't Campbell supposed to be a poor fit for the WCO? Wasn't his weakness the short and intermediate routes? I don't know about you, but I thought a 65% completion percentage on the year was pretty accurate...

And, well, since he pretty much carved up your secondary...what's that say?

Just like to add a disclaimer -- I really don't want to rub in this game, but really, dumb statements like this need to be smacked down from time-to-time.

The year is only 1/4th over and it's going to be a fun season. The NFC BEAST is back. Except MAYBE the AFC South, and NFC East team would win any other division in football. Hands down.
 

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Sonny#9;2295193 said:
Or the fact that he had a higher YPA then Romo yesterday. But don't let that spoil your delusion.

most cowboys fan would admit that romo didn't have a good game yesterday but thanks for playing

Wait a sec...wasn't Campbell supposed to be a poor fit for the WCO? Wasn't his weakness the short and intermediate routes? I don't know about you, but I thought a 65% completion percentage on the year was pretty accurate...
this has nothing to do with me or the discussion.. you are grasping at this point. the fact that he is completing 65% only proves my point further.. :laugh2: thanks..

Just like to add a disclaimer -- I really don't want to rub in this game, but really, dumb statements like this need to be smacked down from time-to-time.
the only person making dumb statements is a Commander troll on this website.. you have yet to dispute my one statement which is he is getting away with an incredibly high percentage of short passes. you keep trying to dance around it which clearly shows you have nothing.. but most trolls usually have nothing
 

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KLJ;2295217 said:
the only person making dumb statements is a Commander troll on this website.. you have yet to dispute my one statement which is he is getting away with an incredibly high percentage of short passes. you keep trying to dance around it which clearly shows you have nothing.. but most trolls usually have nothing

Sorry dude, but most of those passes weren't of the under 5 yards in the air variety.

In particular the plays to Moss. Moss averaged 18.6 yards per catch.

If you take away that 53 yarder, Moss would have had 13.1 yards per catch

So again, we have no clue what you are talking about in regards to nothing but 3 yard completions
 

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SkinsHokieFan;2295229 said:
So again, we have no clue what you are talking about in regards to nothing but 3 yard completions

have you actuall watched all 4 Commanders games this year? serious question

there is a reason campbell's ypa is way down in the league despite such a good completion %.
 

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KLJ;2295243 said:
have you actuall watched all 4 Commanders games this year? serious question

there is a reason campbell's ypa is way down in the league despite such a good completion %.

Yes. Every single snap. Have you?

Just a newsflash. It is called a WCO for a reason. Short passes to keep the chains moving then go up top when the defense is set up for the big play.

Worked perfectly yesterday
 

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SkinsHokieFan;2295253 said:
Yes. Have you?
yes.. zorn is a very good offensive coordinator.. he has designed a system in which the qb can make simple reads and short passes and is still very difficult to stop..
 

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SkinsHokieFan;2295253 said:
Yes. Every single snap. Have you?

Just a newsflash. It is called a WCO for a reason. Short passes to keep the chains moving then go up top when the defense is set up for the big play.

Worked perfectly yesterday

against soft coverage it worked great!!!
 

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KLJ;2295263 said:
yes.. zorn is a very good offensive coordinator.. he has designed a system in which the qb can make simple reads and short passes and is still very difficult to stop..

Then it appears we agree. Campbell is playing to what the system is supposed to do. High percentage, get the ball in your playmakers hands, and when the opportunity is there get it downfield

BLEU3ASY;2295270 said:
against soft coverage it worked great!!!

And yes, that helps quite a bit. But do you think your DB's would have been able to stop Moss from going deep if they pressed him yesterday?
 
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