CFZ What's your plan to upgrade our WR room?

[Cowboyny]

Looking at the list of FA WRs there's a few good choices.

Justin Watson averaged 21 yards per catch.

JuJu Smith-Schuster had nearly 1000 yards.

Allen Lazard caught 6 TDs and had nearly 800 yards.

Looks like poaching one of the Chiefs WRs is the way to go.

Very underwelming to say the least

 

[cowboyec]

If the team goes to the wco, they are going to need some strong route runners. Which vet would you like?

lean obj.

 

[KJJ]

My plan like most to upgrade our WR group is to look at free agency and the draft. That’s the only two ways you can upgrade unless you’re willing to trade for a receiver. We may have to look for an upgrade over Gallup who didn’t have a good season and may never return to form. CeeDee developed into a number one receiver during the second half of the season but Gallup never got it going as our number two. You can’t bank that he’s going to get back to the receiver he was we have to prepare. We can’t count on Jalen Tolbert who was a complete bust this season. He may end up being serviceable at some point, but we certainly can’t count on him. He showed absolutely nothing.

 

[Cowboyny]

I’m thinking of you pay a big price for a WR you’re likely going to have to choose between that player and Lamb before all that long.

For example, Jeudys deal will be up at the same time as Lambs….can they really pay both? If not, can you afford to send multiple picks for a WR when you’re going to ignore FA otherwise?

I want them to be a run based team by a longshot, so maybe the lack of WR availability is a blessing and they go that route.

The Tolbert pick was just a killer, but hopefully that serves as proof that counting on the draft only doesn’t work.

We have to sit and hope our front office learns from their mistakes after 30 years. That’s why I have to come here and vent. Its pretty sad in fact.

I want Beckham, we can get him at a discount and he is better then anyone available. Same injury as Gallup, which adds some risk, though.

 

[fivetwos]

Gotta also remember that there will IMO be a renewed effort to focus on the run game and reduce throws

Also important about who the TEs are going to be since they will need to share

Yup.

Spending big draft capital and cap dollars for a WR when the goal should be to get the ball out of Daks hands more often seems counterproductive.

 

[Cowboyny]

lean obj.

Me too. We might get his former OC in Macadoo, where they went to the playoffs.

 

[exciter]

-Lamb has earned himself an extension and he should be getting one in the near future.
-Gallup has an out in his contract after next season, came back too early and was a shell of his former self.
-Brown was a miscast as a starting receiver and probably price himself off the roster now.
-Hilton most likely won't return and go back to being retired.
-Tolbert/Semi-haven't produced much at all since they were drafted.

Needs

-Team needs a legitimate #2 receiver opposite Lamb.
-Depth has to improve as our backup receivers gave the team virtually nothing.

Free Agency/Draft

-Very weak free agent class, wr's in the draft are reportedly deep, but lack any elite prospects
-Trade Market-Hopkins (will cost a high pick and we have to resign him), Cooks (Huge contract), Jeudy (High draft pick, have his option next yr)

Beckham is probably the best fa WR available, Cooks/Juedy will cost a day 2 pick. Can use 26 to land a starting wr, but they will need some development.

My plan would be signing Beckham and a player like Randall Cobb, who shouldn't cost much now.

We went to run first 12 personnel base offense and it worked. Fixing the running back situation by replacing Zeke is much more important, as Lamb emerged as a bonafied #1. With an off-season in the weight program Gallup’s leg should be back to full strength. Tolbert has had a season developing, learning how to run routes. At most they’ll bring in a mid level free agent and one of those 5th round picks (hopefully someone with 4.4). Beyond that I think Shultz Weill be a priority resign… way to valuable to their scheme and even his agent has to realize no one is going to give him Kelce/Goedert type money! After his antics and manipulation Jerry wouldn’t bring Beckham in to clean the toilets… thinks that ships has sailed off the end of the earth with the other flat earthers!

 

[fivetwos]

I want Beckham, we can get him at a discount and he is better then anyone available. Same injury as Gallup, which adds some risk, though.

The good news is dollars only for him, so if they do add a name WR, he would appear to be the favorite for that reason.

The bad news is I can see him blowing up when things don’t go his way. It could all get very ugly very quickly.

If the Cards would take like a 2nd and 4th for Hopkins I’d probably do that, but I can’t see being able to carry a new deal for him, plus Gallup, plus Lamb when the time comes.

 

[Cowboyny]

The good news is dollars only for him, so if they do add a name WR, he would appear to be the favorite for that reason.

The bad news is I can see him blowing up when things don’t go his way. It could all get very ugly very quickly.

If the Cards would take like a 2nd and 4th for Hopkins I’d probably do that, but I can’t see being able to carry a new deal for him, plus Gallup, plus Lamb when the time comes.

Problem is, he wants elite money extension. At his age, that is risky.

 

[Cowboys93]

Give me a combination of DJ Chark/Marvin Jones, a speedster in Day 2 of the draft, and pray Gallup and Tolbert can give us something next year. Allocating huge cap to the WR room is counterintuitive to the direction this team needs to move to

 

[CWR]

I ate an extra sandwich at lunch and am a hair away from 220lbs. Once I hit 230-35 I'll walk on. I can still run a solid 5.2, and take well to coaching.

Aside from that I'd be looking for speed and lots of it. We need to stretch the field. We can snag a couple speedsters in middle rounds and begin developing them.

Tyreeks first year he was only getting a couple touches a game for awhile. You can damn sure bet he was stretching the field with those 2 touches though.

 

[Dalmations202]

How do you know what kind of WR's you are looking for when you aren't sure who the OC is and exactly what kind of WR matches the O?

I mean historic WCO has big RAC receivers who run lots of crossing patterns and need to be able to take hits.
Martz version of it had smaller quicker guys and deeper routes to high/low a player.
Air Coryell used big fast vertical guys.
Tom Brady's offense used quick reads and wanted quick guys with a big TE's running seams.

I personally think they need specialist for situations like WR #6 be a red zone guy who can jump out of the gym, and #5 be a returner, etc.

Not sure how to fix the WR room though till you know more information about what is really needed.

 

[stinkface]

I'm talking about Cobb as our #4 receiver.

1. Cobb is done IMO. I'd much rather have Hilton.

 

[ghst187]

Jalin Hyatt, WR, Tennessee with rd 1 pick.

 

[big dog cowboy]

My plan would be signing Beckham

 

[big dog cowboy]

26 is too early for a WR especially with big needs at DT and CB.

Get a WR on day 2 and a RB early on day 3.

 

[Mannix]

Gallup cannot be a #2 or #3 or you are really hurting the offense...he may need to retire...he looked like Joe Namath trying to run with the Rams.

 

[baltcowboy]

-Lamb has earned himself an extension and he should be getting one in the near future.
-Gallup has an out in his contract after next season, came back too early and was a shell of his former self.
-Brown was a miscast as a starting receiver and probably price himself off the roster now.
-Hilton most likely won't return and go back to being retired.
-Tolbert/Semi-haven't produced much at all since they were drafted.

Needs

-Team needs a legitimate #2 receiver opposite Lamb.
-Depth has to improve as our backup receivers gave the team virtually nothing.

Free Agency/Draft

-Very weak free agent class, wr's in the draft are reportedly deep, but lack any elite prospects
-Trade Market-Hopkins (will cost a high pick and we have to resign him), Cooks (Huge contract), Jeudy (High draft pick, have his option next yr)

Beckham is probably the best fa WR available, Cooks/Juedy will cost a day 2 pick. Can use 26 to land a starting wr, but they will need some development.

My plan would be signing Beckham and a player like Randall Cobb, who shouldn't cost much now.

I think it will be OBJ or a trade for Cooks. The draft is weak. I would leave the receivers alone in the early rounds. The draft looks full of Tolbert types.

 

[TwistedL0g1k]

Gallup will be improved (fully recovered) next season

Draft a mid to upper-mid round receiver

Bring in a Vet.

That's what you'll see. The team has more pressing needs elsewhere to do much more than that.

 

[jterrell]

WR1 - CeeDee

WR5 - Turpin

Everything else is open for competition.
I'd call Houston about Brandin Cooks. He'd have 2 years and 31M left on his deal. ((This is MUCH cheaper than Amari's 2 years and 40M he was owed)
You restructure the 18M base owed in 2023 with 2 void years and his cap hit could end up 6M.
That can't warrant much in trade but we have a lot of late picks and they gotta want that 18M and his attitude gone.

I'd also call MIA about Ced Wilson. He has a 7M base with 5 GTD. Could easily bring him back and extend him a couple years at same 7-5M AAV rate.
Get him down to 4-5M in 2023.
IF Cooks deal can't go this would be my back up plan.

If I get Cooks, Gallup goes back to WR3 but outside WR only who specializes in deep fly patterns.
If I get Wilson he battles Gallup for WR2.

Tolbert can battle Fehoko and all the other young guys. WR4 spot is there.