When Dak Prescott was in college

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Just imagine if Dak could still run like this! I haven't seen this in a long time and was a little surprised.


He could run when he came out of college. The injury in 2020 really killed that ability. He’s lost at least two or three steps. He looks like he’s trotting when he runs these days. The difference in his running between college and now is almost night and day.
 

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One of my biggest grips with him right now. I know the OL isn't playing great by any means, zero run gamez and the offense scheme is JG 2.0 but he needs to step up and create plays being the 60m man.

Numerous video breakdowns downs have shown him not stepping up in the pocket when there huge chunk plays to be had. Against Detroit there was a Twitter post showing him throwing into double coverage when he could have stepped up as there was 15-20 yards in front of him.

He was no Lamar(who is) however one of his greatest strengths was the ability to extend plays / drives with his legs when needed. Now it's almost non existent
 

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Just imagine if Dak could still run like this! I haven't seen this in a long time and was a little surprised.


you do realize that when you're 8 years in the NFL, multiple injuries you have your ankle snapped off, and you've become a very good pocket passer, he's a prototypical pocket passer with some mobility you trying to tell me that every NFL quarterback is one of these Lamar Jackson types, no?! there are more of them than there used to be but there are prototypical NFL passers still in this league that are still doing very well...

I don't remember Joe Burrow, Lawrence, Herbert, Stafford, Geno smith, Cousins, Darnold, does Baker run a lot i cant say i watch him a lot but dont think he runs enough to be considered a runner, Goiff, and Rogers.. or many others we can sit here and list all day long including like Tom Brady back in his day how often did Tom Brady run?

you don't need to run as qb to be good but for sure Dak still moves well in the pocket IMO trying to avoid this mess in front of him and throws pretty well on the run....

if this is another knock on Prescott like he needs running to be great, no it would be nice if we had a mobile quarterback that can also throw and run an offense but in this case, he's just turned into a prototypical passing quarterback that runs on occasion...

Truly his game since he's been in the NFL has been more like Russell Wilson both did not run a lot they ran effectively their first three or four years in the league but slowly they became more comfortable just being pocket passers with the occasional mobility..

So, I don't know why this needs to be said like oh he's not the same player he never really was a Lamar Jackson type he wasn't a jalen hurts type he's never been that guy yes in college he looks similar but he has always been a better passer than those players whether you agree with it or not.

. but i can say this, there are a lot of QBS who rely on their run game or have to run without it they are below average they lose it and become backups for the duration of their careers. that not Dak. sure, would be nice to have but not a prerequisite to be great Pro QB..
 

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The defense has to get off the field to have the opportunity to block. Nothing has been consistently working so far this year past week 1, except special teams.
The offense has to sustain drives and score for the defense to get off the field.
 

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The ankle dislocation, not the fracture, is the key as to why he doesn't run anymore. When you sustain ligament damage like that, it will undoubtedly effect your ability to run, lateral quickness and agility, etc.

No one's ever questioned Prescott's work ethic, so I think it's simply a situation where the running aspect of his game was taken away, and he's been forced to rely more on his passing game, which wasn't a big strength of his. He's never been a top accurate passer and his deep ball game has been very questionable. It is what it is.
 

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Buffalo had come back...from a four touchdown hole.
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One of my biggest grips with him right now. I know the OL isn't playing great by any means, zero run gamez and the offense scheme is JG 2.0 but he needs to step up and create plays being the 60m man.

Numerous video breakdowns downs have shown him not stepping up in the pocket when there huge chunk plays to be had. Against Detroit there was a Twitter post showing him throwing into double coverage when he could have stepped up as there was 15-20 yards in front of him.

He was no Lamar(who is) however one of his greatest strengths was the ability to extend plays / drives with his legs when needed. Now it's almost non existent
I wholeheartedly disagree first of all it's more than a mess up front and the fact that you can pick out one video evidence of him possibly taking off and running it would have helped instead of throwing the football doesn't make it the norm the man has been moved off his spot more times than he can count and he has to make real time live decisions not some fan behind his computer but I can tell you right now he does still step up in the pocket he does move in the pocket he still does throw well on the run but at some point like for instance when he's trying to get away from DJ Watt because his right tackle sucks and he's getting away from him and now he may be able to go run for a couple yards or throw the ball out of bounds boom the left tackle allows his guy to come free and he gets sandwiched and he fumbles the ball but oh that's all I'm Prescott he should have acted quicker and made a better decision even though the line is allowing people through on a regular basis I mean Zach Martin's not even playing very well now I mean we're finding out video evidence that shows more of the team aspect is the reason he can't function like his normal self and no never been a running quarterback he's always been a pocket passer that's willing to run like Russell Wilson he doesn't need to be a runner to be effective he just needs to know when to run and when not to and just because he missed one because he wanted a bigger play because he knows because the defense sucks so bad they might have to score 40 points he's gonna pass up a run and try to make a 40 or 50 yard pass that only makes sense to me because he knows they need more than him running the ball..

So once again another threat is started with the dak hate, as if he can't function anymore, he's never been Lamar he never will be Lamar, Lamar is special but what Prescott is a pocket passer that is mobile that used to be willing to run more than he does now there are many quarterbacks in the league right now at least ten of them that I know of but ask tua how that feels being a runner ask RG3 all these players that are better runners than they are throwers like jalen hurts they're going to find out when they lose their effectiveness in the run game they're no longer considered a top quarterback Prescott's always been a throw first..


so him not running as much do I don't need your blessing to have an opinion esn't need its own special thread in my opinion he's done quite well without the need to run yes I would like him to move into pocket more I would like him to take off a little bit more but he's not gonna see everyone of those holes that you see on film after the fact well he's looking downfield trying to make a big play because this team is in shambles but let's just keep going back to the deck must be back that HE needs to do more Dak this Dak that. blah blah blah..
 

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I wholeheartedly disagree first of all it's more than a mess up front and the fact that you can pick out one video evidence of him possibly taking off and running it would have helped instead of throwing the football doesn't make it the norm the man has been moved off his spot more times than he can count and he has to make real time live decisions not some fan behind his computer but I can tell you right now he does still step up in the pocket he does move in the pocket he still does throw well on the run but at some point like for instance when he's trying to get away from DJ Watt because his right tackle sucks and he's getting away from him and now he may be able to go run for a couple yards or throw the ball out of bounds boom the left tackle allows his guy to come free and he gets sandwiched and he fumbles the ball but oh that's all I'm Prescott he should have acted quicker and made a better decision even though the line is allowing people through on a regular basis I mean Zach Martin's not even playing very well now I mean we're finding out video evidence that shows more of the team aspect is the reason he can't function like his normal self and no never been a running quarterback he's always been a pocket passer that's willing to run like Russell Wilson he doesn't need to be a runner to be effective he just needs to know when to run and when not to and just because he missed one because he wanted a bigger play because he knows because the defense sucks so bad they might have to score 40 points he's gonna pass up a run and try to make a 40 or 50 yard pass that only makes sense to me because he knows they need more than him running the ball..

So once again another threat is started with the dak hate, as if he can't function anymore, he's never been Lamar he never will be Lamar, Lamar is special but what Prescott is a pocket passer that is mobile that used to be willing to run more than he does now there are many quarterbacks in the league right now at least ten of them that I know of but ask tua how that feels being a runner ask RG3 all these players that are better runners than they are throwers like jalen hurts they're going to find out when they lose their effectiveness in the run game they're no longer considered a top quarterback Prescott's always been a throw first..


so him not running as much do I don't need your blessing to have an opinion esn't need its own special thread in my opinion he's done quite well without the need to run yes I would like him to move into pocket more I would like him to take off a little bit more but he's not gonna see everyone of those holes that you see on film after the fact well he's looking downfield trying to make a big play because this team is in shambles but let's just keep going back to the deck must be back that HE needs to do more Dak this Dak that. blah blah blah..
Oh, really? Will you tell us more? These bedtime stories are cool and all.
 

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He was better than decent. He was a good runner before the injury.
And yet it never was a huge part of his NFL game I'd say he's getting by just fine I say he's still moving around in the pocket just fine yeah, he's less willing to take off you would be ASK TUA, Rg3 and many others how that feels.. He's clearly a pocket passer with mobility not a mobile quarterback that can also pass that is not how he's been or ever been I mean do that 37 touchdowns in 10 interceptions the first year back from the broken ankle I I think that's all this proof I need the man has to then come back from a broken hand and get dogged in 2022 because mostly because of his wide receivers his interceptions went up that year but we forget to mention he came off a broken hand but sure last year did he need to run to lead the league in scoring passing touchdowns literally second in MVP voting second team all pro but here we are with another thread we gotta pick apart something about him no he's never been that guy he's more was Russell Wilson and right now Russell Wilson also doesn't take off and run the ball you want Justin fields or Daniel Jones that can run but they can hardly pass in this league I mean do we need a running quarterback hey we got one on the team why don't we just insert Trey Lance if you want to see more runs from a quarterback a quarterback that has bigger problems passing and if I had to choose I'm taking the pocket passer over the mobile quarterback..

I mean I get it it would be nice if he could be a little bit of his old self and take off and run more but he does not need to we have about 12 quarterbacks in this league that are very successful some are highly talked about that running is not part of the game just because the new wave of young quarterbacks ever since they've been approved and accepted now in the league since Lamar Jackson yes they have a good run game some of them are bringing really nice runs into their repertoire but it doesn't mean that's what you need to be a great quarterback in the NFL... I mean they're gonna find out real quick I mean Jayden Daniels already just missed breaking all his ribs and now he's got sore ribs and he may or may not play this week this is what happens I prefer my guy to be mobile with in the pocket get away from the rush and throw the football as much as possible versus the trade off..

Which is the irony here right I mean Prescott was trying to get away in that New York giant game was gonna take off and get a couple of yards and end up snapping his leg off that's what he gets for trying to be mobile...
 

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I wholeheartedly disagree first of all it's more than a mess up front and the fact that you can pick out one video evidence of him possibly taking off and running it would have helped instead of throwing the football doesn't make it the norm the man has been moved off his spot more times than he can count and he has to make real time live decisions not some fan behind his computer but I can tell you right now he does still step up in the pocket he does move in the pocket he still does throw well on the run but at some point like for instance when he's trying to get away from DJ Watt because his right tackle sucks and he's getting away from him and now he may be able to go run for a couple yards or throw the ball out of bounds boom the left tackle allows his guy to come free and he gets sandwiched and he fumbles the ball but oh that's all I'm Prescott he should have acted quicker and made a better decision even though the line is allowing people through on a regular basis I mean Zach Martin's not even playing very well now I mean we're finding out video evidence that shows more of the team aspect is the reason he can't function like his normal self and no never been a running quarterback he's always been a pocket passer that's willing to run like Russell Wilson he doesn't need to be a runner to be effective he just needs to know when to run and when not to and just because he missed one because he wanted a bigger play because he knows because the defense sucks so bad they might have to score 40 points he's gonna pass up a run and try to make a 40 or 50 yard pass that only makes sense to me because he knows they need more than him running the ball..

So once again another threat is started with the dak hate, as if he can't function anymore, he's never been Lamar he never will be Lamar, Lamar is special but what Prescott is a pocket passer that is mobile that used to be willing to run more than he does now there are many quarterbacks in the league right now at least ten of them that I know of but ask tua how that feels being a runner ask RG3 all these players that are better runners than they are throwers like jalen hurts they're going to find out when they lose their effectiveness in the run game they're no longer considered a top quarterback Prescott's always been a throw first..


so him not running as much do I don't need your blessing to have an opinion esn't need its own special thread in my opinion he's done quite well without the need to run yes I would like him to move into pocket more I would like him to take off a little bit more but he's not gonna see everyone of those holes that you see on film after the fact well he's looking downfield trying to make a big play because this team is in shambles but let's just keep going back to the deck must be back that HE needs to do more Dak this Dak that. blah blah blah..
That was brutal to read and still have no clue the point you're trying to make. No one want to read your long winded essay responses. Less is more

There's tons of video evidence through the years of him shying away from stepping up in the pocket and taking unnecessary sacks. You act like we want him to do it every time and be that "running" QB... he was never truly a running QB to start but I'll i'm simply saying is with the OL struggling, no run game, generic scheme; sometimes being the 60m man you need to step up, make plays and pick up the team momentum like you used too. He was great at extending drives but it's almost no ln existent now
 
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