When did a reception become three steps?

[RonnieT24]

Turning up field is a football move...yes.


Do you know how much confidence a player has to have in his ability to control the ball in order to take one arm off? Catching the ball with two hands and then taking one hand off means I totally possess this ball. So, taking one hand off the ball, means it's completion. Anybody with an ounce of common sense can see this and know that this is true.
So what the hell is wrong with the NFL and all the people they pay to come up with this type of BS? That was a fumble, plain and simple.

Not if the Cowboys recover it it aint.. If that ball makes it out of bounds it's a completion and marked at the spot.. 100 out of a 100 times..

 

[Cboyfan4ever]

And if that had happened to Lamb I have little doubt you'd be saying it was a good call on the incompletion.

I know what the rule states, but to me, that’s a fumble regardless of who it is.

 

[jazzcat22]

Not if the Cowboys recover it it aint.. If that ball makes it out of bounds it's a completion and marked at the spot.. 100 out of a 100 times..

Great point. Did not think of that aspect of the play.
Yes, if not recovered by Dallas, what would the refs say then.

 

[Sydla]

I know what the rule states, but to me, that’s a fumble regardless of who it is.

Well that's a different conversation. As Floaty said, the catch rule has been so mangled over the years because refs couldn't call the original rule as written without some really bad missed calls.

But as the rule is written, and again the in studio officiating analyst clarified it, that in those situations they are instructed to look for a third step to complete the catch and football move and Shepard only had two steps.

 

[RonnieT24]

And if that had happened to Lamb I have little doubt you'd be saying it was a good call on the incompletion.

Personally I'd be saying we got away with one.. I don't adapt my view of the game when it favors my team. I just want the game called fairly both ways and too many times it just isn't. They called Joseph for the facemask (though I think it should have just been hands to the face) but that was legit call. They ignored the guy pulling Parsons to the ground by the face mask. Just call it even both ways and let the chips fall where they may.

 

[aikemirv]

LOL.

Even the in studio referee, who by the way had sided with us on some other calls like the missed hold on Brown and the Williams late hit, clarified that the league put an emphasis in situations like that on the runner having to have made a third step. Shepard never made a third step.

I swear to god, you guys think there should never been any calls that go the other way in our games, even if it's the right call.

They said he had to make a 3rd step, the rule says "like a 3rd step or the ability to perform a football move". So tuck away and turn upfield should suffice!

Sorry you don't like us complaining about an obvious catch that is within the stated rule!

 

[Sydla]

They said he had to make a 3rd step, the rule says "like a 3rd step or the ability to perform a football move". So tuck away and turn upfield should suffice!

Sorry you don't like us complaining about an obvious catch that is within the stated rule!

The guy literally said in the broadcast that the emphasis refs are instructed to look for there in that situation is a third step. But what does he know, he's just a former official that has sat in on instructional meetings, etc. LOL. You guys crack me up.

And before you guys start a conspiracy that the analyst hates the Cowboys or is out to get us, he clearly pointed out a few plays where we definitely got screwed like the lack of holding/PI on Brown.

PS - He never actually tucks the ball away either I don't believe. He's trying to when the ball gets punched out.

 

[Scottishcowboy]

But a catch in the end zone or to the sideline does not require 3 steps.

wow, i hadn't thought about that until you posted it but you are spot on, 2 feet in the endzone, not 3! Well played to you sir.

 

[droopdog7]

I agree with the call on the field. I have no idea how you say he clearly made a football move. He didn’t.

 

[RonnieT24]

I agree with the call on the field. I have no idea how you say he clearly made a football move. He didn’t.

So what do you call tucking the ball under your arm and turning up the field? A baseball move?

 

[JayFord]

the nfl openly admits they dont know what a reception is

 

[droopdog7]

wow, i hadn't thought about that until you posted it but you are spot on, 2 feet in the endzone, not 3! Well played to you sir.

To be fair, when you’re going out of bounds you’re still supposed to hold on to the ball. If you drop it then I presume it’s not a catch.

 

[Sydla]

So what do you call tucking the ball under your arm and turning up the field? A baseball move?

Does someone have a gif or clip of the play? I don't think he actually tucks the ball away. He looks like he's trying to but it gets punched out before he pulls the ball into his body.

 

[droopdog7]

So what do you call tucking the ball under your arm and turning up the field? A baseball move?

I don’t think he tucked the ball in

 

[McKDaddy]

NFL continues to try to make rules for something that is common sense. He caught the ball and tucked it away and turned upfield. I mean, there is no more rule needed for a catch

couldn't be clearer to a 5 year old.

 

[noshame]

That play late in the game where Giant caught it clearly in control, got two feet down, turned(a “football move”) and it clearly got knocked out.

They said he needed three steps. Huh?

I swear that booth referee was just making it up as he goes much like the guys on the field

 

[GMO415]

Everyone saw that was a catch. Somehow, if that was Dallas catching the ball, that would have been a fumble.

 

[JohnsKey19]

I think a lot of these rules have changed so much in recent years, the average fan doesn't even know them.

 

[speedkilz88]

NFL Definition: The NFL's simplified catch rules, which also apply to interceptions, require the player to do three things: Control the ball, get two feet or another body part down, and make a "football move," like a third step/reach reach for the line to gain; or the ability to perform such a move.

Or turning upfield - (football move)

 

[terra]

This football move garbage is the real problem. Whatever moron thought that up needs to be tarred and feathered.

Though the real underlying problem is the NFL and its inability to figure things out using common sense; or more to the point the refusal to use common sense.

The original catch rule had been around for something like 50 years before the current NFL morons decided to screw with it because of ONE notorious instance.

Changing a rule because of one play to me is frankly as dumb as it gets; which describes the current NFL.

Instead of nitpicking something that really cannot be put in a box so neatly, they should concentrate on improving the current HORRIBLE state of NFL officiating 'quality'