When Jerry Hired Wade

[Hostile]

1. Wade Phillips, 0 playoff wins, but defensive experience.
2. Norv Turner, history here, but questionable head coaching ability.
3. Mike Singletary, had never been more than a position coach.
4. Jason Garrett, had never been more than a position coach.
5. Todd Bowles, had never been more than a position coach.
6. Tony Sparano, had never been more than a position coach.
7. Ron Rivera, DC for the Bears, but was it Lovie's Defense?
8. Jim Caldwell, had never been more than a position coach.
9. Todd Haley, had never been more than a position coach.
10. Gary Gibbs, DC for the Saints, former position coach here.

These were the guys available that he interviewed. Other coaching changes happened when ours couldn't because Parcells was still in the office. He hadn't quit yet.

Wade was probably the best choice at that time. I can admit that.

Look who is available right now.

Mike Shanahan
Bill Cowher
Brian Billick
Mike Holmgren
Jon Gruden

I can't say he is now the best choice to be the Head Coach of this team right now. I simply can't say it with a straight face and conviction.

I think that frustrates me more than I care to admit.

 

[Kangaroo]

1. Wade Phillips, 0 playoff wins, but defensive experience.
2. Norv Turner, history here, but questionable head coaching ability.
3. Mike Singletary, had never been more than a position coach.
4. Jason Garrett, had never been more than a position coach.
5. Todd Bowles, had never been more than a position coach.
6. Tony Sparano, had never been more than a position coach.
7. Ron Rivera, DC for the Bears, but was it Lovie's Defense?
8. Jim Caldwell, had never been more than a position coach.
9. Todd Haley, had never been more than a position coach.
10. Gary Gibbs, DC for the Saints, former position coach here.

These were the guys available that he interviewed. Other coaching changes happened when ours couldn't because Parcells was still in the office. He hadn't quit yet.

Wade was probably the best choice at that time. I can admit that.

Look who is available right now.

Mike Shanahan
Bill Cowher
Brian Billick
Mike Holmgren
Jon Gruden

I can't say he is now the best choice to be the Head Coach of this team right now. I simply can't say it with a straight face and conviction.

I think that frustrates me more than I care to admit.

Actually Hos I disagreed then and it has proved out I wanted one of the young upcoming guys over Wade or Turner

 

[Yeagermeister]

1. Wade Phillips, 0 playoff wins, but defensive experience.
2. Norv Turner, history here, but questionable head coaching ability.
3. Mike Singletary, had never been more than a position coach.
4. Jason Garrett, had never been more than a position coach.
5. Todd Bowles, had never been more than a position coach.
6. Tony Sparano, had never been more than a position coach.
7. Ron Rivera, DC for the Bears, but was it Lovie's Defense?
8. Jim Caldwell, had never been more than a position coach.
9. Todd Haley, had never been more than a position coach.
10. Gary Gibbs, DC for the Saints, former position coach here.

These were the guys available that he interviewed. Other coaching changes happened when ours couldn't because Parcells was still in the office. He hadn't quit yet.

Wade was probably the best choice at that time. I can admit that.

Look who is available right now.

Mike Shanahan
Bill Cowher
Brian Billick
Mike Holmgren
Jon Gruden

I can't say he is now the best choice to be the Head Coach of this team right now. I simply can't say it with a straight face and conviction.

I think that frustrates me more than I care to admit.

My choice then was Rivera and now it would be Shanahan.

 

[bbgun]

It's a toxic combination of pride (not admitting he made a mistake) and cheapness (not wanting to pay the old staff and a brand new one).

 

[zrinkill]

I think I want Holmgren to be our next coach.

And I do not really know why.

Just think he would be best for Romo.

 

[khiladi]

Jerry made it clear the reason he hired Wade was because of defense and the shift to 3-4. He thought he took care of the offense by hiring Jason Garrett, before he even hired Wade.

 

[Everlastingxxx]

I agree, there was some slim pickings and i think Wade was the right choice...for THAT season. The window of opportunity to do something special with this group is small. Never know what could happen. I think any one of those guys could do a better job. He has lost the team, much the same way Parcells did.

 

[khiladi]

How was choosing Wade a choice out of 'limited' oppurtunities? If Jerry didn't offer him the job, he most likely would have been the head caoch of San Diego. Wade just came off a 63 sack a year performance and totally re-vamped and resuscitated the San Diego defense, making it perform better year after year.

Dallas defense was sub-par and kept collapsing.

 

[RCowboyFan]

Never cared for the hiring of Wade. Thought he should have gone with Garrett if he was convinced instead of going chicken. Jerry's problem is his short term vision.

But once coach is there, you always hope for the best, frustrated or not. I fully expect Cowboys to tank this year and Wade to get fired. I just hope he wont go chicken and hire another short timer like Holmgren or Shanahan.

If he is not convinced of Garrett, find another young guy, who can be there for the long run. Personally, I think he should just go ahead make Garrett the Head coach. I am sure there will be plenty of Haters thinking Garrett coach, based on TO/Roy and Tony excuses. Not that Garrett has no blame to share, he has his share. But I am confident and hopeful he will learn.

I just don't think with Wade we will get anything different, even if tried.

 

[theebs]

Jerry made it clear the reason he hired Wade was because of defense and the shift to 3-4. He thought he took care of the offense by hiring Jason Garrett, before he even hired Wade.

I have a different opinion.

He hired wade because wade has a track record of taking teams to the playoffs instantly. 6 of his 7 stops he took the team or was part of a staff that took a team to the playoffs in the first season.

He is a player friendly coach and not a guy who would stand up to Jerry.

He was a perfect fit because he was very desperate and knew he may never get another head coaching job, knowing this Jerry knew he would work with him and not be a headache like parcells. Remember all the walking on eggshell stuff.

Him knowing the 3-4 was important, but not as important as his ability to take a team to the playoffs so quickly.

Jerry was looking for short term results. He knew he had a combustible bunch here and that owens could turn on the team at any time, so it was all about short term.

I wanted rivera back then and really liked sporano but worried sporano had the same style of parcells and that would turn off the players. If only he had hired sporano. We would have a very good staff had sporano been hired.

IF you look at the list now and brought all them in, I am not even sure wade gets considered.

I should upload that press conference. All jerry talks about is his ability to get to the playoffs in the first year and how he is from texas.

and wade had his famous trust loyalty and common purpose statement and of course his jabs at parcells.

as far as the new list, I will take holmgren but prefer a young hungry group.

 

[cowboyjoe]

i agree about shahan, and i would see if i could keep wade as the defensive coordinator

i dont want holgebrom,

i agree at the time the best person to hire at the time was wade

now at the same time, we could have had spagnola, whom was the giants defensive coordinator

yeah i know he mainly has coached the 4-3, but if you remember he has coached with the eagles, and he blitzed there like the 3-4 does

im not fond of haley, i think he is a total jerk with power, and he wil blow a team up with his attitude, you can be a fiery coach when you have succeded like jimmy johnson did in his college days, you have to have some skins on the wall and players that know you

remember when jimmy johnson came here, he got michael irvin, he drafted jimmy jones, the te alfredo, steve walsh, and some more miami dolphins like kevin williams, smith the quick fast linebacker from miami, ,

i think in 2 years, haley will be out of kansas city, just my opinion

 

[theogt]

Holmgren and Shanahan are the only I'd take over him right now (and Shanahan is questionable), but neither of them want to coach this year.

 

[Arch Stanton]

I still think Jerry at the moment would go with Garrett. He's invested too much to throw him out at the moment. If Garrett doesn't work out this season he may go with Holmgren. The next HC hire will be about Tony Romo and supporting him.

Personally I'm pulling for Garrett to have a good season and becomes HC.

 

[Mr Cowboy]

It's amazing that 5 of the ones interviewed are now head coaches.

Of that list of those available, the only ones I would take are Billik and Cowher. I don't see the others having the energy to go through full NFL season year after year. And I don't want chucky anywhere near Dallas.

 

[khiladi]

I have a different opinion.

He hired wade because wade has a track record of taking teams to the playoffs instantly. 6 of his 7 stops he took the team or was part of a staff that took a team to the playoffs in the first season.

He is a player friendly coach and not a guy who would stand up to Jerry.

He was a perfect fit because he was very desperate and knew he may never get another head coaching job, knowing this Jerry knew he would work with him and not be a headache like parcells. Remember all the walking on eggshell stuff.

Him knowing the 3-4 was important, but not as important as his ability to take a team to the playoffs so quickly.

Jerry was looking for short term results. He knew he had a combustible bunch here and that owens could turn on the team at any time, so it was all about short term.

I wanted rivera back then and really liked sporano but worried sporano had the same style of parcells and that would turn off the players. If only he had hired sporano. We would have a very good staff had sporano been hired.

IF you look at the list now and brought all them in, I am not even sure wade gets considered.

I should upload that press conference. All jerry talks about is his ability to get to the playoffs in the first year and how he is from texas.

and wade had his famous trust loyalty and common purpose statement and of course his jabs at parcells.

as far as the new list, I will take holmgren but prefer a young hungry group.

Ah OK... SO San Diego's defense had nothing to do with Jerry hiring Wade, when Jerry invested so much money in the defense and it wasn't performing. As if Wade being from texas and getting his team to the play-offs in his first year is mutually exclusive with the issue of defese.. Bad logic... It's called additional positives, but it is obvious that defense was the priority for Jerry. Jerry already hired Jason Garrett as OC before Wade..

"It was important to get the experience and expertise and some of the specific things that I felt we needed to help our team out," Jones said. "How we were going to go forward with the offense, how we were going to go forward with the defense."

This team sucks because of Garrett...

 

[TheCount]

I also remember Jerry tearing up when he announced Wade, saying his mind kept going back to him during the other interviews.

 

[theogt]

I have a different opinion.

He hired wade because wade has a track record of taking teams to the playoffs instantly. 6 of his 7 stops he took the team or was part of a staff that took a team to the playoffs in the first season.

He is a player friendly coach and not a guy who would stand up to Jerry.

He was a perfect fit because he was very desperate and knew he may never get another head coaching job, knowing this Jerry knew he would work with him and not be a headache like parcells. Remember all the walking on eggshell stuff.

Him knowing the 3-4 was important, but not as important as his ability to take a team to the playoffs so quickly.

Jerry was looking for short term results. He knew he had a combustible bunch here and that owens could turn on the team at any time, so it was all about short term.

I wanted rivera back then and really liked sporano but worried sporano had the same style of parcells and that would turn off the players. If only he had hired sporano. We would have a very good staff had sporano been hired.

IF you look at the list now and brought all them in, I am not even sure wade gets considered.

I should upload that press conference. All jerry talks about is his ability to get to the playoffs in the first year and how he is from texas.

and wade had his famous trust loyalty and common purpose statement and of course his jabs at parcells.

as far as the new list, I will take holmgren but prefer a young hungry group.

Jeff Ireland talked about heading up the coaching search and talked solely about Wade's 3-4 attacking defense. It was all about the defense. They wanted the opposite of the Parcells "stay in base 3-4 against 4 wide receivers sets" defense. Ireland talked about putting together video, if I recall correctly, to show how complex and attacking Wade's defense was.

On that list of 10 coaches, Sparano is probably the only one Jerry would hire over Wade right now. But I doubt even that.

 

[theebs]

Ah OK... SO San Diego's defense had nothing to do with Jerry hiring Wade, when Jerry invested so much money in the defense and it wasn't performing. As if Wade being from texas and getting his team to the play-offs in his first year is mutually exclusive with the issue of defese.. Bad logic... It's called additional positives, but it is obvious that defense was the priority for Jerry. Jerry already hired Jason Garrett as OC before Wade..

This team sucks because of Garrett...

I just have a different opinion. I think it was all about short term results. We had a whole bunch of guys with 1 year left on their coaching deals and in the front office and we had owens and a young qb.

Like I said I think it was about maxmizing short term goals and gambling that the future would take care of itself.

But again, its just my opinion.

You really are an angry person.

oh and I am rendering the press conference and uploading them, I will post the whole thing in here when it is done.

 

[GOLDENCHILD1688]

wasnt rex ryan also another possible candidate

i remember him being someone a lot of people wanted including myself

 

[theebs]

Jeff Ireland talked about heading up the coaching search and talked solely about Wade's 3-4 attacking defense. It was all about the defense. They wanted the opposite of the Parcells "stay in base 3-4 against 4 wide receivers sets" defense.

On that last of 10 coaches, Sparano is probably the only one Jerry would hire over Wade right now.

Yea I remember Ireland coming on with norm hitzges and talking about the draft and why they hired wade. There is no doubt the defense played a role, I just happen to think Jerry is a smart guy and saw that he had the potential to maximize some short term goals.

The other guys were all risky due to lack of experience or poor histories.

I think he liked turner and turner had rivera lined up as a defensive coordinator, I believe he would have been fine as the DC. Just think hiring turner would have netted him two of his coaching candidates and he would still have garrett.

Sporano, singletary, haley, bowles and caldwell all had no experience and jerry was not going to risk his team to a non experienced coach. With a young qb, a young dominant pass rusher and a very combustible owens Wade phillips was the safe conservative pick.

Just my opinion.