When Jerry Hired Wade

[khiladi]

As a side note, Rex Ryan couldn't do anywhere near what Wade did with the same personnel in San Diego... While Merriman is good, the difference between what Wade brought to the defense and Rex brught were light years difference.

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

Jerry made it clear the reason he hired Wade was because of defense and the shift to 3-4. He thought he took care of the offense by hiring Jason Garrett, before he even hired Wade.

That is a very accurate post IMO.

Jerry got TO - thought he addressed an offensive issue.
Jerry signed Romo - thought he was cementing the offense and its future for years to come.
Jerry signs BIGG to protect Romo.

All these things that Jerry did were the right decisions, again IMO.

The one thing he couldnt control was the disclipine because all the pieces are there. THIS TEAM IS THAT GOOD.

 

[theebs]

As a side note, Rex Ryan couldn't do anywhere near what Wade did with the same personnel in San Diego... While Merriman is good, the difference between what Wade brought to the defense and Rex brught were light years difference.

I am confused.

When did rex ryan coach in san diego?

 

[khiladi]

I am confused.

When did rex ryan coach in san diego?

Sorry, meant Rivera...

Rivera also coached a 4-3 BTW... And dallas just invested 3 years in drafting for a 3-4...

 

[theebs]

Sorry, meant Rivera...

Rivera also coached a 4-3 BTW... And dallas just invested 3 years in drafting for a 3-4...

he also played for buddy ryan in chicago and knows the 46. He also coached in philly.

He has alot of the same background as Jeff Fisher.

It wouldnt and isnt a problem for him as evident of his work in San diego the second half of this past season.

Ron Rivera has a good background and knows a variety of defenses. Like I said, he played in the 46 with buddy, helped coach it in philly and then learned to coach the 43 tampa 2 defense. So he has alot of experience as a coach and a player and he is now using that in san diego as the coordinator of a 34 defense.

but you already knew all that.

 

[Big Dakota]

I have a question for you guys. If we don't take a significant step forward with this offense and make a big run in the PO's, do you think JG will have enough respect from these players to lead them as a HC? Right now i get the feeling from comments made by some key guys on this team that JG is fighting for his life with this group.

 

[khiladi]

he also played for buddy ryan in chicago and knows the 46. He also coached in philly.

He has alot of the same background as Jeff Fisher.

It wouldnt and isnt a problem for him as evident of his work in San diego the second half of this past season.

Ron Rivera has a good background and knows a variety of defenses. Like I said, he played in the 46 with buddy, helped coach it in philly and then learned to coach the 43 tampa 2 defense. So he has alot of experience as a coach and a player and he is now using that in san diego as the coordinator of a 34 defense.

but you already knew all that.

Again, River'as specialty is the 4-3 defense. He spent his whole coaching career in a 4-3. Using san Diego as an example doesn't demonstrate that he is a 3-4 master. It just means he took over a defense mid-year that was already playing a 3-4.

Dallas invested a lot in the 3-4 and Rivera never coached a 3-4 as a DC until he came to San Diego.

Your argument is absurd...

Dallas made a lot of investment in going 3-4, so they weren't going to go pick somebody that 'possib;y' could be a 3-4 coach, when they know Wade is one of the best 3-4 coaches around, and just came off an incredible year coaching the Chargers 3-4 defense...

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

I just have a different opinion. I think it was all about short term results. We had a whole bunch of guys with 1 year left on their coaching deals and in the front office and we had owens and a young qb.

Like I said I think it was about maxmizing short term goals and gambling that the future would take care of itself.

But again, its just my opinion.

You really are an angry person.

oh and I am rendering the press conference and uploading them, I will post the whole thing in here when it is done.

Lets ignore what they actually said and lets go back to the old standby. Jerry Jones the egomaniac boogeyman.

 

[Bleu Star]

1. Wade Phillips, 0 playoff wins, but defensive experience.
2. Norv Turner, history here, but questionable head coaching ability.
3. Mike Singletary, had never been more than a position coach.
4. Jason Garrett, had never been more than a position coach.
5. Todd Bowles, had never been more than a position coach.
6. Tony Sparano, had never been more than a position coach.
7. Ron Rivera, DC for the Bears, but was it Lovie's Defense?
8. Jim Caldwell, had never been more than a position coach.
9. Todd Haley, had never been more than a position coach.
10. Gary Gibbs, DC for the Saints, former position coach here.

These were the guys available that he interviewed. Other coaching changes happened when ours couldn't because Parcells was still in the office. He hadn't quit yet.

Wade was probably the best choice at that time. I can admit that.

Look who is available right now.

Mike Shanahan
Bill Cowher
Brian Billick
Mike Holmgren
Jon Gruden

I can't say he is now the best choice to be the Head Coach of this team right now. I simply can't say it with a straight face and conviction.

I think that frustrates me more than I care to admit.

I know hindsight is 20/20 and all but I wanted Rivera or Singletary more than anything back then and Jerry disappointed me from day one of the Wade hire... It's not really hindsight since the two of them were in my sig line right up to the Wade hire so I think I am safe from te "want a cookie" folks.

Now Shanahan sits out there and Jerry sticks to his stubborn guns... You don't have to admit it Hos. I have enough admission for the both of us. Jerry's decision to sit on this coaching change is an epic stink bomb.

 

[theebs]

Lets ignore what they actually said and lets go back to the old standby. Jerry Jones the egomaniac boogeyman.

stay tuned, actually jerry said and wade said exactly what I am repeating.

His quick results were key. He was a safe conservative pick.

wade even said he sold him on his immediate results at each stop.

jerry being the boogeyman doesnt make any sense as a response to anything I posted, Your just another angry person.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

stay tuned, actually jerry said and wade said exactly what I am repeating.

His quick results were key. He was a safe conservative pick.

wade even said he sold him on his immediate results at each stop.

jerry being the boogeyman doesnt make any sense as a response to anything I posted, Your just another angry person.

Im not mad i think your stance is dumb. There is a difference. There is a constant theme amongst everything you post even if you do not want to see it. You're not as bad as bbgun or alex and at least you handle yourself with class. Its still there though.

 

[1fisher]

I still think Jerry at the moment would go with Garrett. He's invested too much to throw him out at the moment. If Garrett doesn't work out this season he may go with Holmgren. The next HC hire will be about Tony Romo and supporting him.

Personally I'm pulling for Garrett to have a good season and becomes HC.

x 2

Garrett for HC

 

[CowboyMcCoy]

1. Wade Phillips, 0 playoff wins, but defensive experience.
2. Norv Turner, history here, but questionable head coaching ability.
3. Mike Singletary, had never been more than a position coach.
4. Jason Garrett, had never been more than a position coach.
5. Todd Bowles, had never been more than a position coach.
6. Tony Sparano, had never been more than a position coach.
7. Ron Rivera, DC for the Bears, but was it Lovie's Defense?
8. Jim Caldwell, had never been more than a position coach.
9. Todd Haley, had never been more than a position coach.
10. Gary Gibbs, DC for the Saints, former position coach here.

These were the guys available that he interviewed. Other coaching changes happened when ours couldn't because Parcells was still in the office. He hadn't quit yet.

Wade was probably the best choice at that time. I can admit that.

Look who is available right now.

Mike Shanahan
Bill Cowher
Brian Billick
Mike Holmgren
Jon Gruden

I can't say he is now the best choice to be the Head Coach of this team right now. I simply can't say it with a straight face and conviction.

I think that frustrates me more than I care to admit.

I agree. But Jerry said, "the coaching staff is in place". If he goes back on that, then he's a man whose word means nada. By this logic, Jason Garrett is our next head coach. :

 

[Headless Horsemen]

Give me Brian Schottenheimer as HC in '09, let's see if he the apple falls close to the tree.

 

[Sandman52]

I also remember Jerry tearing up when he announced Wade, saying his mind kept going back to him during the other interviews.

Probly kept remembering how Wade said, "Aw shucks, Jerry, I'm just so excited to be here!"

 

[bbgun]

Im not mad i think your stance is dumb. There is a difference. There is a constant theme amongst everything you post even if you do not want to see it. You're not as bad as bbgun or alex and at least you handle yourself with class. Its still there though.

If only you'd follow his example.

 

[theebs]

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[Clove]

My choice then was Wade, only because I wanted his defense. I still want his defense, I just don't want him as the head coach.

 

[Hostile]

My choice then was Wade, only because I wanted his defense. I still want his defense, I just don't want him as the head coach.

I wanted Ron Rivera, would have settled for Garrett, but saw and see the reason Wade got the job.

Like you, I no longer want him as HC. It isn't personal either because I don't dislike him. I just don't think his laid back approach is what this team needs to turn back around to where they were in 2007. We went too far the other way from the too stringent Parcells.

 

[theebs]

I wanted Ron Rivera, would have settled for Garrett, but saw and see the reason Wade got the job.

Like you, I no longer want him as HC. It isn't personal either because I don't dislike him. I just don't think his laid back approach is what this team needs to turn back around to where they were in 2007. We went too far the other way from the too stringent Parcells.

when parcells left I thought we didnt need less discipline, just a different form of it.

I think the same applies now, we dont need less freedom, just a different form of it.

I wanted rivera back then to, with singletary as his coordinator and assitant head coach! I wonder what would have happened.