When the Cowboys start slow and the excuse is that Dak is just finding his rhythm

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the game was tied at the end of 3rd quarter.....those two interceptions didn't cost the game as you said....they happened in the first quarter. or were you so drunk by then you don't remember and just read the final stats.

Did Dak play bad? yes. but so did bunch of other players. did Dak lift the team to a win? no, he is not Elite and everyone knows that. but when you lose Pollard. have a FB play main running back and average 2.6 yards per carry, then yeah you will have an offense that struggled. where is your criticism of Zeke? Where is your criticisms of Gallup? where is you criticism of Schultz? where is your criticism of OL?
or do you think all of them played well?

yeah, no where to be found. you have an agenda to drive. come he!l and high water, you are going to do it.
The part I don't understand is giving him the pleasure of a reply...
 

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The part I don't understand is giving him the pleasure of a reply...
This is a discussion board, and supporting that specific reason is positive from the start. How that is then taken, becomes a discussion or reason to attach labels to...
 

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the game was tied at the end of 3rd quarter.....those two interceptions didn't cost the game as you said....they happened in the first quarter. or were you so drunk by then you don't remember and just read the final stats.

Did Dak play bad? yes. but so did bunch of other players. did Dak lift the team to a win? no, he is not Elite and everyone knows that. but when you lose Pollard. have a FB play main running back and average 2.6 yards per carry, then yeah you will have an offense that struggled. where is your criticism of Zeke? Where is your criticisms of Gallup? where is you criticism of Schultz? where is your criticism of OL?
or do you think all of them played well?

yeah, no where to be found. you have an agenda to drive. come he!l and high water, you are going to do it.
Kind of a "cover all your bases" approach, isn't it? As long as a game becomes tied at some point after crucial mistakes, all that happened prior to the tie is insignificant? What if those mistakes weren't made? Would it still be tied?
 

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As far as Dak playing in the PS, it's one of those damned if you do, damned if you don't issues, IMO.
I suppose Dak not playing preseason games in 2020 and 2021 was understandable when he had a pretty settled receiving room of Coop, Lamb ang Gallup. Last season's poor start and continued disconnect throughout the season between Dak and receiving corp may well suggest that a couple of snaps (in preseason) against actual NFL Starters maybe beneficial, especially as we've 2 new WR's a new TE1.
 

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Kind of a "cover all your bases" approach, isn't it? As long as a game becomes tied at some point after crucial mistakes, all that happened prior to the tie is insignificant? What if those mistakes weren't made? Would it still be tied?
All games have some momentum changes...all.
 

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Think a soldier has to continue taking out enemy to be able to do his mission?

Rehearsals are just that and practice can be done effectively in a lot of manners.

Myself, I hate the sick, lame, and lazy formations...he shows up ready for duty.

Now tell me you don't understand...
The fact you compare being a soldier on battle to Dak playing football is idiotic and a disservice to all soldiers.
 

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The fact you compare being a soldier on battle to Dak playing football is idiotic and a disservice to all soldiers.
Play games with someone else....professional memories aren't a matter of convenience and are retained by both groups-military or NFL... and provided as a valid comparison...smart guy. Professional memories are merely added upon in both groups!

Really pushing valid reasoning here? Let's go then...
 

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Over paid and fat is what he was. We should have never drafted him. Waste of a pick. And then make him the highest paid RB. That was stupid.
It was stupid to overpay him. Being NFL rushing champ should command some respect and reward. But...not like that!

And agree or not....Jerry did that...not Zeke. And agree or not...the Cowboys ruined him. Too bad he wasn't as selfish as you unreasonable people say...he would have sat himself instead of playing.
 

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Play games with someone else....professional memories aren't a matter of convenience and are retained by both groups-military or NFL... and provided as a valid comparison...smart guy. Professional memories are merely added upon in both groups!

Really pushing valid reasoning here? Let's go then...
Defending using a soldier in comparison to Dak is even worse than the original statement which shows all anyone needs to know about you. Have a nice day.
 

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It was stupid to overpay him. Being NFL rushing champ should command some respect and reward. But...not like that!

And agree or not....Jerry did that...not Zeke. And agree or not...the Cowboys ruined him. Too bad he wasn't as selfish as you unreasonable people say...he would have sat himself instead of playing.
yes, its Jerry. Jerry put the team in peril, including at QB position. he left himself no choice but to pay Dak and hasn't since drafted a viable option to develop except for 7th round flyers and UDFA with limitations.

but Zeke fell off the cliff after he got his contract and didn't come close to reaching what he did before the contract extension.
 

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Kind of a "cover all your bases" approach, isn't it? As long as a game becomes tied at some point after crucial mistakes, all that happened prior to the tie is insignificant? What if those mistakes weren't made? Would it still be tied?
what!? the game has ebbs and flows. in the 4th quarter. you are tied. yes, nothing before matters. win the damn game and we didn't. we played small and lost in the end. we had opportunities all through out the game and squandered it.
you want to singluarly place blame on Dak, then that's your choice. but it was more than Dak. he stands out because he is the QB and he is scrutinized to no end, more than any other player I can recall over the past few years (for some reason he is very polarizing in the cowboys fanbase). but you can't deny Diggs screwed up royally. we can't deny the OL played like crap. we can't deny schultz, gallup disappeard. the only player who showed up was Lamb. does Dak carry a larger portion of the blame? yes, absolutley. is he the sole reason? absolutely not.
 

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As far as Dak playing in the PS, it's one of those damned if you do, damned if you don't issues, IMO. I see both points here. Same reason I don't do parties.
if everyone expects Dak to play to get ready for regular season and knock the rust off, then every starter has to play. it would make no sense to say some of the starters play, some don't. then it wouldn't be actually preparation for regular season. it would be a mish-mosh of players....

I have yet to hear any of the pundits say, they want every starter to play.
 

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I suppose Dak not playing preseason games in 2020 and 2021 was understandable when he had a pretty settled receiving room of Coop, Lamb ang Gallup. Last season's poor start and continued disconnect throughout the season between Dak and receiving corp may well suggest that a couple of snaps (in preseason) against actual NFL Starters maybe beneficial, especially as we've 2 new WR's a new TE1.
what you said doesn't quite make sense.

getting a couple of series in preseason? as an elixir to be on the same page!....

wouldn't a couple of full games kind of be the same or better than couple of snaps in pre-season, to get on the same page? by mid to end of season pre season would be meaningless since you would have had many many snaps and series already under your belt.
which leads me to believe there was more to the disconnect than just a couple of plays in preseason.
 

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Defending using a soldier in comparison to Dak is even worse than the original statement which shows all anyone needs to know about you. Have a nice day.
ahhh, Dak's on your mind? no where in his comment did he mention Dak. given Dak lives in your head rent free and all you do is think about Dak, then you just threw Dak in there to make an argument.

yeah, have a nice day.
 

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Defending using a soldier in comparison to Dak is even worse than the original statement which shows all anyone needs to know about you. Have a nice day.
You are full of crap, dishonest, and now explain how come until this week, Aaron Rodgers went years without playing in a preseason game...
 

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what!? the game has ebbs and flows. in the 4th quarter. you are tied. yes, nothing before matters. win the damn game and we didn't. we played small and lost in the end. we had opportunities all through out the game and squandered it.
you want to singluarly place blame on Dak, then that's your choice. but it was more than Dak. he stands out because he is the QB and he is scrutinized to no end, more than any other player I can recall over the past few years (for some reason he is very polarizing in the cowboys fanbase). but you can't deny Diggs screwed up royally. we can't deny the OL played like crap. we can't deny schultz, gallup disappeard. the only player who showed up was Lamb. does Dak carry a larger portion of the blame? yes, absolutley. is he the sole reason? absolutely not.
100% on this ....but you know agenda's and stuff.....
 

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what you said doesn't quite make sense.

getting a couple of series in preseason? as an elixir to be on the same page!....

wouldn't a couple of full games kind of be the same or better than couple of snaps in pre-season, to get on the same page? by mid to end of season pre season would be meaningless since you would have had many many snaps and series already under your belt.
which leads me to believe there was more to the disconnect than just a couple of plays in preseason.
Indeed, but cant afford to have another Bucc's start and Dak doesnt appear to want to play pre-season.
 

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Indeed, but cant afford to have another Bucc's start and Dak doesnt appear to want to play pre-season.
Do you know this for a fact? Everything we have ever heard about Dak is he wants on the field... I think its more likley the coaches dont want any starter to play pre season
 

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You are full of crap, dishonest, and now explain how come until this week, Aaron Rodgers went years without playing in a preseason game...

Aaron Rodgers: No benefit to playing one series in preseason​


Published August 10, 2022 02:48 A
The Packers have not given Aaron Rodgers any preseason snaps since 2018, but playing him this year has not been taken off the table yet. (he did not play in 1922)
https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profo...no-benefit-to-playing-one-series-in-preseason
 
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