When will we go through "growing pains" of grooming a young QB and eat a season?

[cml750]

2008 Season...

Bledsoe will be the Cowboys starter at QB for the 2006 and 2007 seasons...

Bank on it!

I agree to a point. If Bill honors his last two years of his contract then Bledsoe will most definitely be the starter. Bill, however does not have a big history of honoring contracts until there completion. I believe Henson will be our QB when Bill leaves, which could be after next year!

 

[HTownCowboysFan]

Perhaps we are grooming one right now -- "old school" style. Meaning we develop a guy for a few years and don't throw him to the wolves. Like it used to be. The reason why these young guys play so soon is because of the $$$$$$$$ involved because they were drafted so damn high.

 

[vicjagger]

no offense to anyone...

but uh....vince young will not make it in the nfl.

you can be a running qb in high school and college.....but that is where it ends.

I have no opinion, since I've seen Vince Young play exactly 1 game, but I did hear that he led the nation in passing effeciency. That should be worth something...

 

[big dog cowboy]

I've always thought we should draft a QB every year......Heck!! you're bound to hit on one sooner or later. and I am serious...

Don't the Pats do that? I believe I heard they do.

 

[Bluefin]

vince young will not make it in the nfl.

you can be a running qb in high school and college.....but that is where it ends.

Young is already a better passing quarterback than Mickael Vick was coming out and he's proven to be a winning NFL quarterback with the Falcons in spite of his passing limitations.

Just about every quarterback prospect can fail depending on the condition surrounding him, but I expect Vince young to succeed.

Whatever 'it' is, he has it.

 

[Ashwynn]

One side of the ball at a time. I expected a lot of defensive turnover the way that Parcells seems to build teams.

Last years QB crop was not among the best. All about which QB would fit a system as opposed to which QB to build a system around.

EDIT: And that was part of my point in the other post. Dallas could have held onto their first round picks and still netted a pretty decent young QB with NFL experience.

You sure your not a closet cowboy fan. I have never heard a skins fan take such a logical approach to our rebuilding. Your certainly not your typical skins fan for sure and for that I say thank you for being able to civilly talk about your enemy. I could not be so gracious at your board all the time. Certainly after 35-0.

 

[WoodysGirl]

Perhaps we are grooming one right now -- "old school" style. Meaning we develop a guy for a few years and don't throw him to the wolves. Like it used to be. The reason why these young guys play so soon is because of the $$$$$$$$ involved because they were drafted so damn high.

Where's that hammer thingy??? Cuz I think u hit the nail on the head...

 

[Bluefin]

As for taking the growing pains normally associated with allowing a young quarterback to learn on the job, is it really necessary?

If a good team is built up over a period of years and its veteran quarterback departs, the transition doesn't have to be so rough if a candidate has been silently groomed in the background.

I don't know if Tony Romo or Drew Henson can fill that role, but I don't that one of them isn't, either.

The key is not waiting until your team stinks and your veteran is kaput to go out and attempt to find his successor.

Always be on the lookout and try to keep the team in sound enough shape that starting the new guy won't spell immediate disaster.

 

[Kilyin]

Certainly after 35-0.

35 to 7, the only saving grace about that game was the fact it wasn't a shutout.

 

[jay cee]

As for taking the growing pains normally associated with allowing a young quarterback to learn on the job, is it really necessary?

If a good team is built up over a period of years and its veteran quarterback departs, the transition doesn't have to be so rough if a candidate has been silently groomed in the background.

I don't know if Tony Romo or Drew Henson can fill that role, but I don't that one of them isn't, either.

The key is not waiting until your team stinks and your veteran is kaput to go out and attempt to find his successor.

Always be on the lookout and try to keep the team in sound enough shape that starting the new guy won't spell immediate disaster.

Now I need that hammer thingy. Great post.

These guys act like they want to go through 1989 again. There is no guarantee that going 1-15 with a rookie qb is going to start another superbowl run.

If there was, I would be trying to get that little ice skating chick to go after Bledsoes knees with a metal pipe like pronto.

 

[Shaun]

The Texans and Lions have been doing it for years, and it doesn't seem to have helped.

 

[Big D]

Originally Posted by HTownCowboysFan
Perhaps we are grooming one right now -- "old school" style. Meaning we develop a guy for a few years and don't throw him to the wolves. Like it used to be. The reason why these young guys play so soon is because of the $$$$$$$$ involved because they were drafted so damn high.

Where's that hammer thingy??? Cuz I think u hit the nail on the head...

Allow me....

:starspin

 

[SALADIN]

I've always thought we should draft a QB every year......Heck!! you're bound to hit on one sooner or later. and I am serious...

I'm right threre with you Cbz. The Cowboys seem to take a project of some kind every year in the draft, why not a QB?

 

[jterrell]

The Texans and Lions have been doing it for years, and it doesn't seem to have helped.

you have to have a young QB worth committing too and you can't be guessing if a guy is or not. he either absolutely is or it isn't worth it.

i hear alot about schaub and volek and it just shows me how desperate and whiny fans are. neither has had a team commit to developing them and in fact their success is very likely due to the fact they have been brought along as backups.

the young qb thing has worked for pittsburgh and thats really it.

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

Now I need that hammer thingy. Great post.

These guys act like they want to go through 1989 again. There is no guarantee that going 1-15 with a rookie qb is going to start another superbowl run.

If there was, I would be trying to get that little ice skating chick to go after Bledsoes knees with a metal pipe like pronto.

Its no guarantee... but how is that "win now", "best chance to win" thingy working???

 

[jay cee]

Its no guarantee... but how is that "win now", "best chance to win" thingy working???

It's working ok IMO. Not as well or as fast as I would like, but OK.

Bledsoe has 2-3 good years left in him, if they can provide him with a good o-line and strong running game. And they have 2 young qb's they are trying to develop. Hopefully one of them can come on enough to replace Bledsoe when he is done, or better yet, beat him out in the next couple of years.

The O-line needs a lot of work this off-season. If the o-line comes together, I think they can be in the running to win the NFC next year.

The Cowboys have the makings of a great defense. All they need is one more solid player on the DL, LB and safety positions. Not superstars, just solid players.

If they get those players on the Defense as well as shore up the O-line and kicking situation, I think they are one of the dominant teams in the NFL, barring a lot of key injuries.

 

[Kangaroo]

I have no opinion, since I've seen Vince Young play exactly 1 game, but I did hear that he led the nation in passing effeciency. That should be worth something...

It means nothing Ty Detmer put up ridculos numbers at BYU but did what in the Pro's as a big time QB led the nation in yards and every thing else.

So take that stat with a grain of salt I have watched more than one Vince game the last few years he will suck because they are going to make him change his throwing motion and I bet his stock drops when the work puts start and they see his crazy throwing motion err I mean shot put throw

 

[jterrell]

It means nothing Ty Detmer put up ridculos numbers at BYU but did what in the Pro's as a big time QB led the nation in yards and every thing else.

So take that stat with a grain of salt I have watched more than one Vince game the last few years he will suck because they are going to make him change his throwing motion and I bet his stock drops when the work puts start and they see his crazy throwing motion err I mean shot put throw

I believe you are completely wrong here.

VY has been to the highest level camps and passing schools for 5 or 6 years now and worked with many of the same type folks he will on the pro level icluding Steve McNair.

A lot of QBs use unorthodox throwing motions which are actually less stressful on the shoulder area. Ben R. is a good example and I think he is the type of QB VY will be. Big, strong, accurate with a knack for making plays.

I have seen at least 20 VY games and his development has been phenomenal but the key is his accuracy which is much better than I ever see it being credited.

Detmer did thjat at BYU where every QB put great nu,bers and VY has done it at UT where no QB has been the efficient.
VY being so efficient as a passer is just as amazing as it would have been had Vick done so at VT.

VY isn't guaranteed to be a huge star but he will be a decent player at the least because of his size, speed and quickness. He was the top ranked recruit in the country when he signed with UT out of high school. The other top ranked players they have had are Rod Wright and Chris Simms; both day 1 draftees.

 

[Dallas31]

We have to do it eventually.... we are 10+ years of nothing so far...

We did it from 2000 through 2002, and where did it get us.

You try to win year by year, and when you have a young guy who can push the starter for the job, then maybe you consider it.

But we won't be junking any more seasons as long as Bill is our coach. So you are stuck with a veteran qb until Bill leaves, or until Henson, Romo, or ??? looks good enough to challenge Bledsoe.

 

[Dallas31]

I'm right threre with you Cbz. The Cowboys seem to take a project of some kind every year in the draft, why not a QB?

Because this would essentially mean giving up on either Romo or Henson, and the team isn't ready to do that yet.