Where do we go now that we've gone too far?

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i'll be honest. i've been looking for a way to get that into a subject line that wasn't political in nature. not been easy these days but i can still see the similarities. have we gone too far in garrett? romo? wittin? who's got enough years left to help correct this and when do you realize how far off you've gone?

for all you IGS's out there giggling as the chance to do the TL/DR - gotcha. now move along and shut up. i'm gonna keep writing for those who wish to read it now.

12-4. that's where we left this machine in motion. 1 bad call away from home, we felt. 1 bad call that is still debated, still denied, and still cried upon. "1 more inch" seems to be the story of dez's life. barely out of bounds against the giants long ago, barely out of bounds on another call and barely hits the ground, if it does. but that's how close we were and we knew, just knew next year would be our year.

we've come to the point where even math laughs at us and on one but garrett believes in it. the hardest part of all this is even teams we laugh at on a regular basis have found ways to win while we have found new ways to hurt. new insults and memes log facebook like a google ad for something you were stupid enough to search for online, reminding you over and over what you're missing.

we're 3 and something? 4 and something? (insert painful correction of my lazy recollection of our record here) and to be honest, i just quit counting. 3 weeks left is it? did i get something right? you'll have to forgive me, i seem to care as much as at least 1/2 of this team. not much anymore.

but i'm just a fan. i can get away with apathy towards a situation and come back strong tomorrow and full of believe that the miracle is about to start. but even i give up on that stance when i see the collective lack of effort we call the dallas cowboys these days. while i do say "collective" i certainly don't mean all. if i could cherry pick out someone who shows regardless the situation they are in the fight to the end, if not longer...

no more calls. we have our "never gives up" winner this year.
http://www.sbnation.com/lookit/2015/12/13/10053086/lael-collins-block-speed-running-gif
*btw, yes i gave up trying to make the IMG tag work. i suck...

i can't help but see larry allen here. the only thing missing today is the rest of the team. but how can a whole NFL team be so complacent? so lack of give a ****? WHO could let that happen? i only know of 1 person or role on the team where this should fall and while i've been a quiet supporter over the years hoping like others for the ghost of the landry style to come in vogue again, like others i've been let down in unimaginable ways only the truly pathetic teams can understand.

excuse me, cleveland, is this seat taken? could you please hide that damn win you still have manziel as your qb! wait...

even oakland has left us behind at this dance.

where do we go now though? i can go off and call out some players who we all know can't catch, run, tackle, or care. we've got a lot of people calling them out thread after thread after oh look, a brand new player bashing thread but to be just as honest, this is a team thing and singling out "bad" players is far too easy when trying to look for the good.

whitehead. he's got some game. jones. yea, we got it right there. lawrence? hey we overpaid at the time and the IGS has cut him more often than the groundscrew has cut the whitehouse lawn but anyone calling him out in a bad way these days? sunnofabch maybe it does take some time for players to come into their own. this will give me hope in gregory and hey, i'd like to see that green kid some this year along with moore.

we know what we have in qb and i think it's more than safe to say that position will get a lot of love in the offseason - which may as well be starting now. get in some *real* pre-season games for next year. let the kids play. put dez on a treadmill and have a throwing machine pummell him with footballs until he catches 2 in a row. that should keep him busy for a few hours. let cassel put his mad clipboard skills back to work and let's see what we have here.

lets see if we have another collins out there who knows he's in a bucket of NFL Poo but wants his shot to show he's better than what we see so far. *I* wanna see that. *THAT* gives me a reason to watch next week. not some futile attempt to show i passed 3rd grade math and use that as my bible.

we know we're in for some pretty massive changes and a few weeks ago the thought of red gone and maybe payton coming back home was just a pipe dream. yea, i guess it still is. but it's the season of dreams and telling santa what we want.

all i want for xmas is this team to have the desire it used to. to me, that takes a culture shift because a *winning* culture would never let a team be this bad. so put me down to see what our younger players have. except for street. seen it, move along. nothing to see here.

3 more games, is it? 4? can we just get back to a point where we as cowboys fans care?

come to think of it, the subject really doesn't fit after all. :)
 
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I am not a proponent of change for change's sake and think that a revolving door of coaches is a recipe for long-term futility, but it's clear after five years of data that it's time to try something new.

i agree. you have to ride out choices to give the coach a chance to show *his* way is correct. 2-3 years when people say NOOOOOOOOOOooooo in a vader manner is too soon, to me. but at this point we have 1 good year in 5. the way the team is handling itself as a team i think is a reflection on him and it's not good.
 

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My problem with change is WHO will JJ bring in??? ANother puppet/yes man. Is it time for a change yes and not just with the coaching staff.
 

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My problem with change is WHO will JJ bring in??? ANother puppet/yes man. Is it time for a change yes and not just with the coaching staff.

hard to say. at this point i think the coaching decision would be just as much stephen as jerry - so maybe it's time to turn things over. who knows what they will do at this point.
 

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My rant in 100 words or less...
  • Getting rid of Garrett is not the answer. It would be if he had Romo all season and they lost 9 games to date.
  • Sean Payton is not the answer. What is his record? Is his QB healthy?
  • Why is Hayden on this team? The fact he is tells you the scouting department cannot find a better player in the lesser rounds of draft.
  • Poor scouting overall. Top picks have success but where are the middle-round hits?
  • Backup QB. Who actually thought these guys (Weeden and Cassell could win games if called upon? Jerry? Wade Wilson? Garrett? Larry Freaking Lacewell?
  • Safety. Can the Cowboys dedicate this draft rot draft a safety who can actually play?
 

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My rant in 100 words or less...
  • Getting rid of Garrett is not the answer. It would be if he had Romo all season and they lost 9 games to date.
  • Sean Payton is not the answer. What is his record? Is his QB healthy?
  • Why is Hayden on this team? The fact he is tells you the scouting department cannot find a better player in the lesser rounds of draft.
  • Poor scouting overall. Top picks have success but where are the middle-round hits?
  • Backup QB. Who actually thought these guys (Weeden and Cassell could win games if called upon? Jerry? Wade Wilson? Garrett? Larry Freaking Lacewell?
  • Safety. Can the Cowboys dedicate this draft rot draft a safety who can actually play?

so - garrett isn't an issue. a new coach isn't the issue. but if we cut a hack player like hayden suddenly the "rant" becomes effective?

priorities man. priorities.
 

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My rant in 100 words or less...
  • Getting rid of Garrett is not the answer. It would be if he had Romo all season and they lost 9 games to date.
  • Sean Payton is not the answer. What is his record? Is his QB healthy?
  • Why is Hayden on this team? The fact he is tells you the scouting department cannot find a better player in the lesser rounds of draft.
  • Poor scouting overall. Top picks have success but where are the middle-round hits?
  • Backup QB. Who actually thought these guys (Weeden and Cassell could win games if called upon? Jerry? Wade Wilson? Garrett? Larry Freaking Lacewell?
  • Safety. Can the Cowboys dedicate this draft rot draft a safety who can actually play?

Payton has won a SB. Right there, that's a massive leg up on Garrett.

Hayden is on the team because of the scheme we play where the DC doesn't put a lot of priority in having a stud 1 tech. In other words, that's as much a coaching problem as anything else.
 

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i'll be honest. i've been looking for a way to get that into a subject line that wasn't political in nature. not been easy these days but i can still see the similarities. have we gone too far in garrett? romo? wittin? who's got enough years left to help correct this and when do you realize how far off you've gone?

for all you IGS's out there giggling as the chance to do the TL/DR - gotcha. now move along and shut up. i'm gonna keep writing for those who wish to read it now.

12-4. that's where we left this machine in motion. 1 bad call away from home, we felt. 1 bad call that is still debated, still denied, and still cried upon. "1 more inch" seems to be the story of dez's life. barely out of bounds against the giants long ago, barely out of bounds on another call and barely hits the ground, if it does. but that's how close we were and we knew, just knew next year would be our year.

we've come to the point where even math laughs at us and on one but garrett believes in it. the hardest part of all this is even teams we laugh at on a regular basis have found ways to win while we have found new ways to hurt. new insults and memes log facebook like a google ad for something you were stupid enough to search for online, reminding you over and over what you're missing.

we're 3 and something? 4 and something? (insert painful correction of my lazy recollection of our record here) and to be honest, i just quit counting. 3 weeks left is it? did i get something right? you'll have to forgive me, i seem to care as much as at least 1/2 of this team. not much anymore.

but i'm just a fan. i can get away with apathy towards a situation and come back strong tomorrow and full of believe that the miracle is about to start. but even i give up on that stance when i see the collective lack of effort we call the dallas cowboys these days. while i do say "collective" i certainly don't mean all. if i could cherry pick out someone who shows regardless the situation they are in the fight to the end, if not longer...

no more calls. we have our "never gives up" winner this year.
http://www.sbnation.com/lookit/2015/12/13/10053086/lael-collins-block-speed-running-gif
*btw, yes i gave up trying to make the IMG tag work. i suck...

i can't help but see larry allen here. the only thing missing today is the rest of the team. but how can a whole NFL team be so complacent? so lack of give a ****? WHO could let that happen? i only know of 1 person or role on the team where this should fall and while i've been a quiet supporter over the years hoping like others for the ghost of the landry style to come in vogue again, like others i've been let down in unimaginable ways only the truly pathetic teams can understand.

excuse me, cleveland, is this seat taken? could you please hide that damn win you still have manziel as your qb! wait...

even oakland has left us behind at this dance.

where do we go now though? i can go off and call out some players who we all know can't catch, run, tackle, or care. we've got a lot of people calling them out thread after thread after oh look, a brand new player bashing thread but to be just as honest, this is a team thing and singling out "bad" players is far too easy when trying to look for the good.

whitehead. he's got some game. jones. yea, we got it right there. lawrence? hey we overpaid at the time and the IGS has cut him more often than the groundscrew has cut the whitehouse lawn but anyone calling him out in a bad way these days? sunnofabch maybe it does take some time for players to come into their own. this will give me hope in gregory and hey, i'd like to see that green kid some this year along with moore.

we know what we have in qb and i think it's more than safe to say that position will get a lot of love in the offseason - which may as well be starting now. get in some *real* pre-season games for next year. let the kids play. put dez on a treadmill and have a throwing machine pummell him with footballs until he catches 2 in a row. that should keep him busy for a few hours. let cassel put his mad clipboard skills back to work and let's see what we have here.

lets see if we have another collins out there who knows he's in a bucket of NFL Poo but wants his shot to show he's better than what we see so far. *I* wanna see that. *THAT* gives me a reason to watch next week. not some futile attempt to show i passed 3rd grade math and use that as my bible.

we know we're in for some pretty massive changes and a few weeks ago the thought of red gone and maybe payton coming back home was just a pipe dream. yea, i guess it still is. but it's the season of dreams and telling santa what we want.

all i want for xmas is this team to have the desire it used to. to me, that takes a culture shift because a *winning* culture would never let a team be this bad. so put me down to see what our younger players have. except for street. seen it, move along. nothing to see here.

3 more games, is it? 4? can we just get back to a point where we as cowboys fans care?

come to think of it, the subject really doesn't fit after all. :)

Yeah, the bullet has hit the bone.

If JJ is truly in the entertainment business, then how about making some changes that would create some interest, and make the team fun to watch?

In its current iteration, it's too painful to watch any more.
 

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I am not a proponent of change for change's sake and think that a revolving door of coaches is a recipe for long-term futility, but it's clear after five years of data that it's time to try something new.
8 years of data. The offense is the problem this year as it was last year as it has been more often than not.
 

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I am all for changes on this coaching staff, including HC.

The issue I then have is will they get anyone worth a crap or will Jerry go with more yes men?

I don't have a whole lot of faith in Jerry to get a coach who calls the shots and gets out their way.
 

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Out with Cassell, start Moore and activate Jameill Showers. We are going to keep plugging QB's in there until someone shows something.

I'm also thinking Kevin Hogan may be a good prospect for us.
 
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