Discussion in 'Fan Zone' started by quickccc, Jul 17, 2019.
Cool. Which AVERAGE QBs are making 30 mil annually. I have a little time, I can wait.
He’s middle of the pack. Maybe a bit higher. He’s exactly the 4th round pick we drafted. To echo Dennis Green, “he is who we thought he was”.
So, your intent was either for the conversation to never progress or evolve, or maybe you thought everyone would just say, yes sir, you are right and there is nothing else to say. Lol
And, of course, it doesn’t matter that we’re we’re what, 8-10 posts into the back and forth we were having? You felt it made sense to quote me, as if this were just the next in our exchanges, and in your response quote someone else without identifying you were doing so and pretend your argument against that person somehow applied to me?
Lol, well if logic doesn’t matter, it’s damn easy to win a debate, right?
My Intent was to get an answer to the question I asked. I'm still waiting thou. I mean, I am right about this, I don't need anybody to confirm it. Your idea of evolution is questionable. You can't, or won't even answer the question I asked, yet you somehow see this as progression? I think I've identified the problem here.
For the record, I never think quoting you makes sense and the first time I read anything logical from you will literally be the first time.
Answer the question. Who are the Average QBs who are making 30 million dollars a season to play QB. If you can't answer that, then you have no legit position. It's as simple as that. Who are those QBs Omer?
Don’t you mean “below average”?
LOL.... I'm good with that too. Tell you what, if you can name a QB who fits in either one of those categories, who is making 30 million annually, I'll accept that as proof.
I mean, you guys are amazing. Neither one of you wants to answer the simple question. Who is that QB who is making that kind of bank right now, other then those few who I named earlier. You can't because they don't exist. You don't have a fact of any kind to support your apparent position here.
In fact, let me just ask you, because it is not clear to me, what is your point in this entire thread? What is it you are actually trying to discuss? Are you here to add to the discussion or are you just here to engage in adolescent argument?
*sigh* I guess I have to repost this for the 3rd or 4th friggen time:
^^^ That's been my point. If you think Dak is worth/valued/will accept well under $30M, well, prepare to be disappointed.
And apparently, I wasn't the only one with that opinion:
That didn't sit well with you and now we're 14-pages deep.
As for "adolescent argument", you've done nothing but whine and become more triggered with each exchange. I'm sure you'll lead into your next response with "LOL" or "LMAO", right?
Cousins got $28M, 100% guaranteed, a year ago which with inflation is more than $30M.
And Dak's won't be 100% guaranteed. Glad I could help you find the answer.
Also Wentz got $32M a year.
There you go little buddy
I'm 99% sure RJ and Omer already answered this, but you probably missed it 50 times.
I think the argument is if a perennial loser like Kirk Cousins gets $28 mill per year, a perpetually injured Carson Wentz gets even more; and a less established (but maybe higher pedigree?) QB like Jimmy Garoppolo gets big money; than Dak's agent can easily argue for similar money.
Not arguing whether or not Dak is worth it, but I am sure this is what his agent is spinning; and rightfully so.
Actually he isn't who y'all thought he was because y'all were saying he would be lucky to be a backup QB in this league..... Instead he is the starting QB of America's Team
Crazy that people that follow football enough to make a forum account are so football ignorant that they believe a 4th rounder should be an average NFL starter at QB.
That's a whole lot of stupid right there.
Teams would kill for an average starter in the 4th.
Oh wow. You definitely shouldn't put money on football. Ever.
The best comparison for Prescott is Russell Wilson, since we are dead on that alignment.
Which QB would you pick with his throw deciding the game?
Newton, Flacco, Manning, Trubisky, Cousins, Carr, Stafford, and Wentz ahead of Dak?
Honestly, what has Prescott done to hurt some of you guys so badly? Win 32 games the past three years? Shame on him for not throwing those always- pretty spirals these other guys do.
Show me where I ever had issue with any of this. I don't believe for one minute that Dak is going to get 30 million this year but hey, we'll see. See, your problem is that you see some kind of argument on what you are posting and the truth is, I don't care.
You guys took issue with what I said, which was, Dak is not making 30 million this year and he's not. You guys took offense when I said that the going rate for a QB who is not considered better then average is not 30 million. You flat avoided the question, when I asked you who those average/below average QBs were, who were claimed to make 30 annually. You guys still haven't answered the question.
I don't care what you post because why would I? I'll say it again, Dak isn't making 30 million this year and I don't believe that he's going to see that contract until he comes up for a new one, if at all. Makes no sense to do that, at this point.
Considering how hard it is to find a good QB I'm confused why do many dislike Dak. Guess the prefer a guy like Romo who failed in the playoffs and makes excuses why. Funny that the ones that dislike Dak are Romo lovers. I'm a Cowboys fan and will support any player on the team. I'm not going to dislike them because they took one of my favorite players spot.
That is the argument but the claim specifically was that even average QBs were getting 30 million annually. That's just not true and I explained that. The rest of this is just shadow dancing around the central point. I don't believe that this whole 30 million going rate thing is true.
This is kind of the problem. I mean, everything that you have said here, has been posted on and commented on, and yet, it keeps coming back up. Kirk Cousins got a three year deal. Wentz, in all actuality got an extension that pays him 27 over 6 years. Garappolo got a two year deal. I mean, I would sign Dak to a deal like Garappolo's or Cousins or even Wentz today. The problem is signing him to a long term, big guaranteed money deal for 30 plus million before he has really proven he is the guy. I am certain his agent wants the big deal contract now, but that doesn't mean it's smart for the team to do that.
The Fan base has different opinions, I understand that, I think everybody does. We'll see what happens I suppose. As I said earlier, this has been discussed multiple times.
Where is this Dak hasn't proven he is the guy? I'm his first 3 seasons he has won rookie of the year, broke numerous records, won the division 2 of 3 years, won a playoff game against a Superbowl winning QB and considered one of the most clutch guys in the league, has averaged 11 wins per season, has never had a losing season since being the starter. It's he a perfect QB, no but not a single QB can claim that. Is he the best in the league, no but he is top 10-12. I'm clutch time does Dak play his best, yes he does.
Not sure what else the guy has to do to be proven.
The ones the don't want him resigned are the same ones who wouldn't have resigned Matt Ryan, Phillip Rivers, Romo, Drew Brees, etc.
Just ignore them.
My rate would be $25 million a season for 5 years with escalators for wins, All Pro appearances and play-off wins.