Where Does Ginn Go?

[Tristan]

Some of these responses are absurd!

Ginn is a phenominal talent, his impact on the game is unbelievable. When he was injured in the championship game it was like the whole dynamic of OSU's offense was ruined. It was astounding to see the difference that one player made, without him they had nothing, with him, opposing defenses backed off and feared him, and because of that Smith and guys like Gonzolas and the RB's had success.

The only way I would pass on Ginn is if Jarrett was there, but either one of these guys would be steals at our pick.

Ginn is a big tyme playmaker with world class speed, Period!

 

[StanleySpadowski]

His 40 times...He has run the 40 before...his 100 meter times and the game tapes on him.

If anyones slow witted here it's you.

His hundred time's a 10.5. Pretty fast but not world class and not anything faster than plenty of other NFLers and NFL prospects. His previous 40 times are about as reliable as the 4.1s that everyone from Kevin Jones to Johnny Lee Higgins have claimed they did.


Don't let hard evidence that can be substantiated dissuade the minions of morons.

 

[dbair1967]

Still talking about Ginn's speed.

If you want to say he doesn't run precise routes...Ok.

If you want to say he's raw...Ok.

If you want to say he's dropping ...OK.

If you want to say that he doesn't have great speed...You would be going against all the evidence and you would be full of it.

I'm sure he has great speed...thats about the extent of his skill right now though

he has a long ways to go to be a starting WR, which is why I think he's a waste of a 1st rd pick

David

 

[Dayton Cowboy]

Whether its the scarlet and gray shades over my eyes I'm not sure, but I would take him if he were there at 22. I'd also hope Ray Sherman can coach Ginn or any other receiver up to the level they need to be. Perhaps even Terry Glenn would take him under his wing?

 

[AmishCowboy]

I would be happy with him, I think he would be our best return man since Kevin Williams.

 

[Concord]

His hundred time's a 10.5. Pretty fast but not world class and not anything faster than plenty of other NFLers and NFL prospects. His previous 40 times are about as reliable as the 4.1s that everyone from Kevin Jones to Johnny Lee Higgins have claimed they did.


Don't let hard evidence that can be substantiated dissuade the minions of morons.

Let me guess...Penn St Fan?

 

[Concord]

I'm sure he has great speed...thats about the extent of his skill right now though

he has a long ways to go to be a starting WR, which is why I think he's a waste of a 1st rd pick

David

And that was all my posts were about...His speed.

He does have a long ways to go to be a top notch WR.

But with his skills as a Punt/Kick returner and his potential to develop into a good WR...I'd take him at 22 and not even think twice about it.

 

[dbair1967]

And that was all my posts were about...His speed.

He does have a long ways to go to be a top notch WR.

But with his skills as a Punt/Kick returner and his potential to develop into a good WR...I'd take him at 22 and not even think twice about it.

thats not enough to warrant being the 22nd pick of the draft, especially when there are so many good talents at the same position this yr

David

 

[ZeroClub]

It could be that Matt Jones went too high when he was the 21st player taken in the 2005 draft.

Clearly, though, Ginn accomplished more as a college WR than did Matt Jones.

In a world where so many 1st round choices (perhaps especially the WRs) turn out to be underachievers, it is darn near impossible for anyone to know today if Ginn (or any of the other WRs, for that matter) are worth their salt.

I'd be willing to roll the dice on him though.

 

[cowboys19]

His hundred time's a 10.5. Pretty fast but not world class and not anything faster than plenty of other NFLers and NFL prospects. His previous 40 times are about as reliable as the 4.1s that everyone from Kevin Jones to Johnny Lee Higgins have claimed they did.


Don't let hard evidence that can be substantiated dissuade the minions of morons.

you fail to respond to my post i see.
scared your going to get owned?
Watch the flippin highlights of this guy, and you still think he isnt that fast?

hahaha :laugh2:

 

[cowboys19]

I cant belive people are questioning his speed. Only blind people would i guess.

If Ted Ginn Jr isnt that fast, Deion Sanders and Bo Jackson only have "decent speed" :laugh2:

 

[Bizwah]

Ginn worries me.....He has great speed. But he still seems too raw as a receiver. He's far from polished.

I know some have compared his size to Steve Smith and Santana Moss, but those guys seem a little thicker and sturdier.

Ginn looks like a twig....How would he recover from taking a shot from Taylor?

He's 6-0 175.....that's Stepfret Williams size.

If anything....he's a heckuva returner. I guess that'd be ok while he learns to play receiver. Give him a year with Jurascek (spelling?), and maybe we'll have something.

 

[theogt]

6.5 minutes long. Enjoy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGyrgqOKZLg

The kick return at 4:22 is quite a feat. It shows is change of direction speed and his quick burst ability to break up field.

 

[jackrussell]

6.5 minutes long. Enjoy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGyrgqOKZLg

The kick return at 4:22 is quite a feat. It shows is change of direction speed and his quick burst ability to break up field.

I counted about 5 receptions across the middle on that highlight reel, not to mention the sneak from the direct snap...pretty much destroys the myth of not going across the middle.

I seen some tackles broken, great change of direction and elusiveness. So much for the 'only has speed' myth.

And one would have to be an absolute idiot if they didn't think he had the speed after watching this with their own eyes. That thought is just beyond stupidity.

 

[Doomsday101]

I think if your looking for a guy to take over for Glenn when he retires Ginn would be a great fit. If Dallas were to take him in the 1st I would have no issue with it.

 

[joseephuss]

I would be happy with him, I think he would be our best return man since Kevin Williams.

Deion was a pretty good punt returner for Dallas after Kevin Williams was gone.


Does Dallas need their 1st round pick to step in right away and contribute? Most receivers are not capable of being major contributors right away. They take a few years to really have an impact on the team. Since T.O. and Glenn are both older, it would be good to have a young receiver on the team to develop and be ready once those two step down.

If Dallas wants a guy that will play almost right away, then receiver is not a good pick at #22.

 

[alancdc]

thats not enough to warrant being the 22nd pick of the draft, especially when there are so many good talents at the same position this yr

David

I agree with this. First, I am not an OSU hater. I am an NC State fan, and I am still bumming about the hoops game yesterday. I just don't think we have the LUXURY of taking a guy who would mostly be a return guy. I just think we have more glaring needs to fill. Now, if I was say, Indy, or a team that can take a risk I would draft him, sure. Not for Dallas, just my opinion.

 

[Concord]

thats not enough to warrant being the 22nd pick of the draft, especially when there are so many good talents at the same position this yr

David

Sure it is...Especially at 22.

We're not talking about a Special teams guy who has never played WR before.

We're not talking top ten here.

If Carpenter can go 18...Ginn can go to us at 22 no question.

 

[joseephuss]

Sure it is...Especially at 22.

We're not talking about a Special teams guy who has never played WR before.

We're not talking top ten here.

If Carpenter can go 18...Ginn can go to us at 22 no question.

Or you can draft the same guy on the second day of the draft in Steve Breasdon from Michigan. An explosive return man who has played wide receiver and the same size as Ginn. :laugh2:

I don't like using Carpenter as the reason to draft Ginn. Different scenarios and needs. Many didn't and still don't think Carpenter was worth the #18 pick. There are better reasons to draft Ginn than that arguement and I am not big on Dallas drafting him. . In the end, he won't be a Cowboy. I foresee some team will reach and take him before the Cowboys have chance.

 

[Concord]

Or you can draft the same guy on the second day of the draft in Steve Breasdon from Michigan. An explosive return man who has played wide receiver and the same size as Ginn. :laugh2:

I don't like using Carpenter as the reason to draft Ginn. Different scenarios and needs. Many didn't and still don't think Carpenter was worth the #18 pick. There are better reasons to draft Ginn than that arguement and I am not big on Dallas drafting him. . In the end, he won't be a Cowboy. I foresee some team will reach and take him before the Cowboys have chance.

Breasdon is not as good as Ginn as a return guy.

No Michigan guy could be!

Carpenter was just a example as if he has the talent to go 18 then Ginn definitely has the talent to go 22. And more.

I don't think Ginn is going to be there at 22 anyway.

But if he is I pick him.