Where Does Ginn Go?

[theogt]

The guy was in a cast and walking boot up until late February. What did people expect? If any team doubts his speed, they need to fire their scouts.

 

[StanleySpadowski]

The guy was in a cast and walking boot up until late February. What did people expect? If any team doubts his speed, they need to fire their scouts.

Isn't it easier to fire message board posters who think he has world class speed?

He's a pretty good open field runner but there are at least a half dozen or more players in the Big 10 that are faster than he is.

He's said to be only the third fastest player on Ohio State alone.

 

[theogt]

Isn't it easier to fire message board posters who think he has world class speed?

He's a pretty good open field runner but there are at least a half dozen or more players in the Big 10 that are faster than he is.

He's said to be only the third fastest player on Ohio State alone.

I'm sure Randal Williams is faster than him too. What's your point?

 

[postal]

he should have been a cb

Being a Buckeye faithful I think you're right, thats what he was recruited for.

 

[postal]

I suspect he'll go where I've been saying he'll go all along...bottom 3rd of the first. I'm well documented in saying that for the last year or so.

Draft 'experts' somehow elevated him to top 10...and it becomes a hate the player environment instead of the morons that incorrectly ranked him so high.

Now maybe he's 'slipping' back down to my original expectation. Doesn't make him less of a player than I knew he was all along, just to those who artificially inflated him to begin with.

For those that say he's a 'one dimensional' player....that dimension would be all he does is score touchdowns from anywhere on the field. Cris Carter syndrome.

Ginn made Gonzalez a commidity, not the other way around. Ginn was the guy that was game planned for.

Too many get hung up on 'lack of size', 'lack of strength', yet there are players competing in the NFL today that fit those same descriptions.

Too many of you forgot the electricity you felt in the seat of your pants when Deion was awaiting a punt, or when Deion took a reverse. I haven't, I was blessed to be reminded of it for the last 3 years.

I'll go with my own eyes...not with your mock drafts, your draft experts, your draft catch phrases. I seen the player play week in week out...you caught a couple of games...you ape the talking heads.

You want lightening in a bottle...you draft Ginn, not the underwear olympic winners.

Exactly,this guy makes fast people look not so fast. He could've had more tds had smith not under thrown him a few times.

 

[jackrussell]

So we'll never really know the true non-OSU track 40 yard dash time.

Another stopwatch watcher.

You seem to have an obsession about this. Spadowski not far behind. Summer has his doubts that he's fast at all. Must all be a ruse.

What about being recognized as the biggest homerun threat in the nation the last couple of years eludes you all?

What exactly about seeing him run away from defenders doesn't equate to speed to you?

What exactly about knowing he was the high school 110 hurdle national champion doesn't equate to speed to you?

What exactly about knowing he posted the fastest 110 hurdle in the nation as a senior doesn't equate to speed to you?

Stay hung up on your stop watches....stay hung up on him being 2/100ths of a second slower than another Buckeye.....those notions if held by NFL teams will keep them from adding a special element to their respective teams, and keep you all waiting for his dust to clear.

 

[jackrussell]

Exactly,this guy makes fast people look not so fast. He could've had more tds had smith not under thrown him a few times.

And that's a fact. The Texas game alone this year was evidence of that.

 

[lkelly]

As a PSU fan, seeing him do absolutely nothing against us the last two years has me scratching my head. He had a punt return TD (extremely well blocked and untouched) against us as a freshman, but that's pretty much it over 3 games.

Is he next coming of Troy Williamson or Donte Stallworth? Or is he going to turn into Terry Glenn or Steve Smith. Who really knows.

I am pretty sure he won't be going over the middle in the NFL. That makes him less of a first round worthy pick in my book.

 

[StanleySpadowski]

Another stopwatch watcher.

You seem to have an obsession about this. Spadowski not far behind. Summer has his doubts that he's fast at all. Must all be a ruse.

What about being recognized as the biggest homerun threat in the nation the last couple of years eludes you all?

What exactly about seeing him run away from defenders doesn't equate to speed to you?

What exactly about knowing he was the high school 110 hurdle national champion doesn't equate to speed to you?

What exactly about knowing he posted the fastest 110 hurdle in the nation as a senior doesn't equate to speed to you?

Stay hung up on your stop watches....stay hung up on him being 2/100ths of a second slower than another Buckeye.....those notions if held by NFL teams will keep them from adding a special element to their respective teams, and keep you all waiting for his dust to clear.

I could really care less what the stopwatch says. Ginn simply isn't as fast as some homeristic people claim.

Skeets Nehemiah was the greatest 110 hurdler of all time. How'd his NFL career turn out?

Ginn Jr.'s had only five one hundred yard receiving games in three years of college and only one of them came against a defense with any talent at all in Michigan, unless you consider Northern Illinois a major NFL pipeline.

 

[jackrussell]

I could really care less what the stopwatch says. Ginn simply isn't as fast as some homeristic people claim.

I don't know what they're claiming....but to say he doesn't have speed is ridiculous.

Skeets Nehemiah was the greatest 110 hurdler of all time. How'd his NFL career turn out?

And how did his college career go? Oh, that's right, he never played football. Reachin' there.

Ginn Jr.'s had only five one hundred yard receiving games in three years of college and only one of them came against a defense with any talent at all in Michigan, unless you consider Northern Illinois a major NFL pipeline.

Oh how fresh(and original)....OSU played a lightweight. Stop the presses! Noone else in major college football has their stats padded up against the bottom feeders...NOONE!! Thanks for pointing that one out. Weak.

Edit: Let's see, you state he's not all that fast, and in the next breath make a Renaldo Nehamiah comparison. Kind of a little all over the place on this one....:laugh2:

 

[jackrussell]

As a PSU fan.

Nuff said right there.

 

[lkelly]

Here's a link to Ginn's underwhelming stat line by game:

http://web1.ncaa.org/d1mfb/playerDetail.jsp?yr=2006&org=518&player=7

 

[Concord]

Still talking about Ginn's speed.

If you want to say he doesn't run precise routes...Ok.

If you want to say he's raw...Ok.

If you want to say he's dropping ...OK.

If you want to say that he doesn't have great speed...You would be going against all the evidence and you would be full of it.

 

[StanleySpadowski]

Still talking about Ginn's speed.

If you want to say he doesn't run precise routes...Ok.

If you want to say he's raw...Ok.

If you want to say he's dropping ...OK.

If you want to say that he doesn't have great speed...You would be going against all the evidence and you would be full of it.

What evidence??????


There's a lot of mythology, but there's no evidence at all that Ginn is even among the faster WRs in this draft.

I said months ago that Ginn was going to do everything in his power not to run before the draft because a 4.45 isn't going to impress anyone when speed's the only weapon. His best bet is to hope that someone falls for the legend rather than the facts.

He's got enough slow witted allies in messageboardom spreading the legend around. Maybe someone will fall for it.

 

[Concord]

What evidence??????


There's a lot of mythology, but there's no evidence at all that Ginn is even among the faster WRs in this draft.

I said months ago that Ginn was going to do everything in his power not to run before the draft because a 4.45 isn't going to impress anyone when speed's the only weapon. His best bet is to hope that someone falls for the legend rather than the facts.

He's got enough slow witted allies in messageboardom spreading the legend around. Maybe someone will fall for it.

His 40 times...He has run the 40 before...his 100 meter times and the game tapes on him.

If anyones slow witted here it's you.

 

[jackrussell]

What evidence??????


There's a lot of mythology, but there's no evidence at all that Ginn is even among the faster WRs in this draft.

I said months ago that Ginn was going to do everything in his power not to run before the draft because a 4.45 isn't going to impress anyone when speed's the only weapon. His best bet is to hope that someone falls for the legend rather than the facts.

He's got enough slow witted allies in messageboardom spreading the legend around. Maybe someone will fall for it.

And plenty off ignorant haters to counter them.

 

[cowboys19]

Isn't it easier to fire message board posters who think he has world class speed?

He's a pretty good open field runner but there are at least a half dozen or more players in the Big 10 that are faster than he is.

He's said to be only the third fastest player on Ohio State alone.

are you flipping kidding me?
have you freakin seen this guy run?

here ill help you out
http://youtube.com/watch?v=TApPxbmGzP4
there isnt 2 guys in college football let alone 1 who is faster than him pads.

name me a dozen kids you think are faster than him in pads and tell me who they are.

damn clueless:bang2:

 

[cowboys19]

Here's a link to Ginn's underwhelming stat line by game:

http://web1.ncaa.org/d1mfb/playerDetail.jsp?yr=2006&org=518&player=7

another guy who is all about stats.

What stats dont tell you is his world class speed, his love for the game, and his tremdous work ethic.

Anquan Boldin
Javon Walker

both had underwhelming stat lines in college, yet where are they now?

Stat lines mean s***

 

[Avery]

Well, I personally wouldn't mind Ginn at #22. He would give us an element of speed on offense that we've lacked.

Is the guy the fastest timed? Perhaps not, but in pads, he'll be tough to catch.

 

[ZeroClub]

I'd be happy with Ginn and would see him as a gamble worth taking.

The Cowboys have a fairly strong roster already - not a lot of gaps were a rookie is going to have an impact.

Ginn would likely have an immediate impact on the return game. Opposing defenses would have to respect his speed when he got on the field as a third WR .... and while giving T. Glenn the occasional break.

Personally, I'd prefer that the Cowboys attempt to trade 1st round choices with the Packers, pick Lynch, and trade Julius Jones away.

But my guess is that the Cowboys will end up picking a CB (a decision that has its merits too).