CFZ Where is the Chip?

[Bobhaze]

So your logic doesn't apply to other franchises? Lol

The idea that what the Cowboys did in 2002 is relevant to their success, but what the Pats did in, say, 2015, isn't relevant to theirs is ridiculous.

No I just don’t see the need to care about what another organization does or not do. What the Cowboys didn’t do last year and the year before and the year before and the year before….IMO has become an issue for this organization.

If you don’t agree with it, that‘s fine. It has nothing to do with logic. I’m not trying to win an argument here. You’re welcome to disagree.

 

[Cowboysheelsreds058]

Pretty much what the cards lost showed, was hit replay of the 2 PO losses to the niners shows the same problems still exist.

 

[Mac_MaloneV1]

No I just don’t see the need to care about what another organization does or not do. What the Cowboys didn’t do last year and the year before and the year before and the year before….IMO has become an issue for this organization.

If you don’t agree with it, that‘s fine. It has nothing to do with logic. I’m not trying to win an argument here. You’re welcome to disagree.

Then I don't understand your point. Dallas can't win because of what they've done in the past, but that doesn't apply to other teams? It makes no sense.

 

[PA Cowboy Fan]

No I just don’t see the need to care about what another organization does or not do. What the Cowboys didn’t do last year and the year before and the year before and the year before….IMO has become an issue for this organization.

If you don’t agree with it, that‘s fine. It has nothing to do with logic. I’m not trying to win an argument here. You’re welcome to disagree.

It's the culture that Jerry creates with this organization year after year. It's the common factor to the last 28 years.

 

[Bobhaze]

Then I don't understand your point. Dallas can't win because of what they've done in the past, but that doesn't apply to other teams? It makes no sense.

As the old saying goes, “I can explain but I can’t help you understand.” Again, it’s an opinion you disagree with. No problem. It’s an opinion forum.

 

[speedkilz88]

Anthony Brown has it.

 

[Miller]

The last 27 years speaks for itself. I don’t need to remind Cowboys fans of what that means. But I have a couple of serious questions for the entire Cowboys organization:

• Where is the chip on the shoulder? The last two seasons have ended in losses to the San Francisco 49ers in the divisional round. Both losses where the team clearly underperformed and did not bring their best to the most important game in their entire season.
• Does anyone sense from the players, coaches and FO a sense of urgency or a chip on the shoulder about their lack of quality playoff performance?

Here’s my question to us as fans: Maybe I’m wrong, but for a team and organization that has clearly underperformed for decades, do these guys seem to have more determination, focus and clarity than in the past? Or do they seem a bit too self satisfied with reading their own news clippings? Does anyone sense a drive and urgency to get right what they haven’t for so long?

Jimmy Johnson has said for years that this organization is like a country club rather than a football team. He has said on numerous occasions that the players “look too comfortable” with losing.

Where is the chip?

It‘s way too early to give up on this team and I still have some optimism. They have talent and they can compete with any team when properly prepared and focused. But every time I watch this team underperform as we witnessed last Sunday, I wonder again, Where is the chip?

Another great post Bob!

My 2 cents is that we lost all sense of a "chip" during the Garrett years. That wasn't that long ago and Dak and others were part of it. It included 10 years of not holding a coach accountable, not holding players accountable and of a lot of sound bytes that sounded good but had nothing behind them. I think Dak learned from the school of Garrett on how to say the right things and not back it up. Many of these guys did. But they all know that another playoff loss does nothing to dent their standing with Jerry so no need to have a chip. Of course there were worst years with Campo etc but at least I felt like those teams went out and tried...just no talent. I'm hoping that the D brings the chip playoff time and that propels us

 

[Bobhaze]

Anthony Brown has it.

Good one Speed… But Shortie beat you to it!

Ya'll remeber the thread on this? lol

 

[DallasEast]

The last 27 years speaks for itself. I don’t need to remind Cowboys fans of what that means. But I have a couple of serious questions for the entire Cowboys organization:

• Where is the chip on the shoulder? The last two seasons have ended in losses to the San Francisco 49ers in the divisional round. Both losses where the team clearly underperformed and did not bring their best to the most important game in their entire season.
• Does anyone sense from the players, coaches and FO a sense of urgency or a chip on the shoulder about their lack of quality playoff performance?

Here’s my question to us as fans: Maybe I’m wrong, but for a team and organization that has clearly underperformed for decades, do these guys seem to have more determination, focus and clarity than in the past? Or do they seem a bit too self satisfied with reading their own news clippings? Does anyone sense a drive and urgency to get right what they haven’t for so long?

Jimmy Johnson has said for years that this organization is like a country club rather than a football team. He has said on numerous occasions that the players “look too comfortable” with losing.

Where is the chip?

It‘s way too early to give up on this team and I still have some optimism. They have talent and they can compete with any team when properly prepared and focused. But every time I watch this team underperform as we witnessed last Sunday, I wonder again, Where is the chip?

Micah Parsons has boasted about the only chip so far and that was proclaiming the defense was the best in the league. Unfortunately, defense makes up only a fourth of any football team. Plus, that single chip was already faced its biggest challenge before the first quarter of the season has been played.

It will be nice seeing the entire team gain that singular focus at some point. Fans could then begin feeding off that energy--that sense of steadfast determination. The confident aura oozing from the team that nothing will beat them, especially not by themselves.

Perhaps it is not fair to ask the question of younger fans. In my opinion, the Super Bowl XXX season was the last time everyone, Cowboys and non-Cowboys fans alike, perceived Dallas as King Kong of the NFL during a season. Since then? 2007? 2009? 2014? 2016? The last two seasons? During those years it was a perception that the team could reach the Super Bowl or win it all IF all the pieces fell in the right place at the right time when it matter most. Apples and oranges. Or maybe a better comparison would be a chip and a dream.

 

[john van brocklin]

No, because they're irrirrelevant

You think the last 28 years have no bearing on today's team?
You don't think we can learn from history?

 

[Mac_MaloneV1]

You think the last 28 years have no bearing on today's team?
You don't think we can learn from history?

Learning from history and having a bearing on today are not the same thing. But...no.

Why would what happened in 1994 matter but not 1992? It's just a meaningless, arbitrary cutoff.

For today's team, talent matters, history doesn't.

 

[atlantacowboy]

The guy who would take the losses personally and make players take it personally is currently coaching the Colorado Buffaloes.

 

[rambo2]

It’s a country club. The only thing players truly care about is money.

You are just throwing shot up against the wall with that thought. Parsons for sure cares about being the best and improving.

 

[rambo2]

The guy who would take the losses personally and make players take it personally is currently coaching the Colorado Buffaloes.

He is about to have another butt kicking.

 

[rambo2]

This is probably the Cowboys mindset unfortunately.

That’s why they’re losers.

Are all teams losers?

 

[atlantacowboy]

He is about to have another butt kicking.

He’s missing his best player who will be a top 10 draft pick next year. He replaced 75 out 85 scholarship players in 1 offseason which is unheard of……. Reason ? He got there and saw a 1-11 team with a bunch of players who were ok being 1-11. So, just making a bowl is going to make this one of the most impressive turnarounds in CFA history.

 

[john van brocklin]

Learning from history and having a bearing on today are not the same thing. But...no.

Why would what happened in 1994 matter but not 1992? It's just a meaningless, arbitrary cutoff.

For today's team, talent matters, history doesn't.

Appreciate the back and forth.
We can agree to disagree.
I give Jerry credit for his part in the 3 SBs, but most would acknowledge that had more to do with Jimmy than Jerry.
Since Jimmy and his players left, this team has been a rudderless mess, driven by Jerry's need to prove he is a football man, when 28 years of history prove otherwise.
That same Jerry continues to call the shots and it's hard to see this team overcoming him to win any meaningful playoffs games.

 

[G2]

First 2 weeks: Mud stomping team.
Week 3: It's over!

 

[atlantacowboy]

Appreciate the back and forth.
We can agree to disagree.
I give Jerry credit for his part in the 3 SBs, but most would acknowledge that had more to do with Jimmy than Jerry.
Since Jimmy and his players left, this team has been a rudderless mess, driven by Jerry's need to prove he is a football man, when 28 years of history prove otherwise.
That same Jerry continues to call the shots and it's hard to see this team overcoming him to win any meaningful playoffs games.

Jerry’s role in the building of the team that won 3 super bowls is well documented. He was GM in name only and Jimmy had full roster control. After 93’ when the core of the team and roster depth was already constructed , Jimmy left and Erik Williams had that horrible car wreck and was never the same player. That derailed the 94’ season which was still a huge success losing in the NFC title game. The NFC title game is probably the organizations goal these days. Jerry to his credit added Dieon Sanders which was the move that put them back on top……. But with the core of jimmy’s team still intact.

 

[DallasEast]

I give Jerry credit for his part in the 3 SBs, but most would acknowledge that had more to do with Jimmy than Jerry.

Do you want to take a poll? I agree by the way but even I can sometimes fall for the illusion created by a minority of members posting an... aggrandizement of Jerry Jones at that time.