Where Romo Ranks all-time as Captain Comeback (and complete success story)

[Blackrain]

It's flawed thinking because it's STUUUUUUUPID. Irrational.

This is playoff Roger Staubach without a top roster around him:
Washington 26
Cowboys 3
Dec 31, 1972

This is playoff Troy Aikman without a top roster and coach:
Vikings 27
Cowboys 10
Jan 9, 2000

Utterly crushed and embarrassed.



Roger could only win 3 of 8 playoff games when his defense gave up 14 or more. Some people have zero capacity to learn anything.

That's Roger staubach's first full game back after injury your cherry picking again

 

[Blackrain]

Some are incapable of simple concepts, so I'll try dishing baby food.

-A quarterback is not on the field during defensive and special teams play. That puts the first ceiling on his impact. He's only on the field about 45% of the time.
-When the QB is on the field he hands off 40-60% of the time. That takes his potential impact down to around 25%
-On passing plays a QB relies on his offensive line to block or he can't pass effectively. That takes his impact down to approx 15%
-Finally he needs talented receivers who get open and reliably catch the ball. A QB's impact is now maybe 10% over the final outcome.

Yes, of course a quarterback has way, way more impact than other players, but it's still just on the order of 8-10% of total impact over a game.

If simple logic, baby math is too much for some...oh well. We march on.

8 to 10% of the total impact on the game please if anybody agrees with that just shout out now.

Plus you forgot Romo audible out of the run whenever he could which gave him more control over the game. Lol
8 or 10%, we donated a special forum to the quarterback position at one time that's how much affect people believed it had over the game.
Thread after thread posted about Dak and his play hard to believe everybody would be that concerned if he only had an 8% impact on the game.

 

[Blackrain]

And look at Tampa Bay the year before Brady got there their defense was at the bottom of the league why in great part because their quarterback threw 30 interceptions.

Insert Tom Brady and all of a sudden the defense is in the top 10 when they're not being thrown back on the field every 2 minutes and they win a super bowl.

But the quarterback has very little effect on the game

Geez you will try and manufacture almost any fantasy to prop Romo up

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

Danny don’t get a quarter of the bandwidth that your useless hero receives

And I’m not interested in erasing Romo he has his place in cowboys history

Now the takes of his over the top ridiculous fans such as yourself that’s another story

LOL.."over the top".

Thanks you made my day!

 

[PA Cowboy Fan]

And look at Tampa Bay the year before Brady got there their defense was at the bottom of the league why in great part because their quarterback threw 30 interceptions.

Insert Tom Brady and all of a sudden the defense is in the top 10 when they're not being thrown back on the field every 2 minutes and they win a super bowl.

But the quarterback has very little effect on the game

Geez you will try and manufacture almost any fantasy to prop Romo up

TB never wins a SB without Tom Brady.

 

[T-RO]

TB never wins a SB without Tom Brady.

Of course they don't.

And likewise Brady has never won a Super Bowl without a top eight defense. Fact. (That and lots of favors from NFL referees)

 

[T-RO]

Thread after thread posted about Dak and his play

Let me fix it for you:
"Stupid thread after stupid thread posted about Dak and his play"

And that proves...what exactly?

 

[T-RO]

8 to 10% of the total impact on the game please if anybody agrees with that just shout out now.

This thread is getting 80-100 views per day, but only a few posters. No peanut gallery will save you.

Think for yourself and logically make your best case. I'm ready.

 

[Blackrain]

This thread is getting 80-100 views per day, but only a few posters. No peanut gallery will save you.

Think for yourself and logically make your best case. I'm ready.

I think you're alone in believing that the quarterback only impacts the game 8 or 10 percent

The whole league is geared around the quarterback they've made special rules to protect him.

I believe it's at least 20%

 

[Runwildboys]

This thread is getting 80-100 views per day, but only a few posters. No peanut gallery will save you.

Think for yourself and logically make your best case. I'm ready.

What does the amount of views or the amount of replies have to do with the percentage of the QB's effect on the outcome?

 

[T-RO]

I think you're alone in believing that the quarterback only impacts the game 8 or 10 percent

The whole league is geared around the quarterback they've made special rules to protect him.

I believe it's at least 20%

Well we all can pick a number.

6%? 19%? 15%?

I suppose it depends on the team and the offense. Definitely not more 20%.

 

[GMO415]

Watching replay of Week 2 2008 vs the iggles. Romo already turned the ball over twice, one for a TD. The dude was a joke.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

I think you're alone in believing that the quarterback only impacts the game 8 or 10 percent

The whole league is geared around the quarterback they've made special rules to protect him.

I believe it's at least 20%

Yeah even 20 percent seems low. I’d say the defense and a quarterback can have similar impact on a game. 8 or 10 percent seems to be regulated to like special teams impact.

 

[T-RO]

What does the amount of views or the amount of replies have to do with the percentage of the QB's effect on the outcome?

Nothing at all. No one said that.

 

[T-RO]

Yeah even 20 percent seems low. I’d say the defense and a quarterback can have similar impact on a game. 8 or 10 percent seems to be regulated to like special teams impact.

Let's start with what impact the units have on a game
45% defense (they have to stop the opposing QB and their run game, right!)
45% offense
10% special teams, including FG kicker

That's gotta be very close to correct, right?

Now we slice up the offense, which is already just a slice.

Players impact on the offense:
QB, 30%
Running backs, 15%
3 WRs, 20%
TEs, 5%
5 O-Linemen, 30% (they impact run and pass game)

This works out with math to 13-14% of impact/control a quarterback has over the game. It's gotta be something close to that.

 

[T-RO]

That's Roger staubach's first full game back after injury your cherry picking again

How am I cherry picking? I've posted this fact at least 3 times now:
Roger only won 3 of 8 playoff games when his defense gave up 14 or more.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Let's start with what impact the units have on a game
45% defense (they have to stop the opposing QB and their run game, right!)
45% offense
10% special teams, including FG kicker

That's gotta be very close to correct, right?

Now we slice up the offense, which is already just a slice.

Players impact on the offense:
QB, 30%
Running backs, 15%
3 WRs, 20%
TEs, 5%
5 O-Linemen, 30% (they impact run and pass game)

This works out with math to 13-14% of impact/control a quarterback has over the game. It's gotta be something close to that.

Offensive line might be too high. QB and offensive line can’t be the same.

 

[T-RO]

Offensive line might be too high. QB and offensive line can’t be the same.

Can an offense succeed without above average play in the trenches?

 

[Cowboys5217]

TB never wins a SB without Tom Brady.

It could have been our Super Bowl if we had a GM with even an ounce of competence.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Can an offense succeed without above average play in the trenches?

Oh for sure. We’ve seen it with the Bengals and a few other teams. Can you win a SB without one? I don’t think I’ve seen that yet.