Where Romo Ranks all-time as Captain Comeback (and complete success story)

[Blackrain]

We learn more about your vulnerability to the dark side.

Being a cowboy fan in Philly you can't have much vulnerability you have to have a really thick hide because you are taking a serious beating continually.

These people in this area hate the Dallas cowboys like nothing else on Earth and make no bones about it

 

[T-RO]

Just noticed:
PA Cowboy Fan...where the PA is reference to Pennsylvania
Blackrain just posted he's in the Philly area

I'm guessing you know each other pretty well.

Ganging up on me?

 

[PA Cowboy Fan]

It's a great post PA. I love Tony Romo I watch all the games he announces and enjoy them thoroughly.
But there were times that the guy thoroughly frustrated and disappointed me and I guess living here in the Philly area having to defend him constantly became a task I really didn't enjoy.
That said I can't see why people can't just be satisfied with what he was and what he is and stop trying to make him into something he wasn't after watching a football Life it seems like he's very happy with what he did and how things turned out.

And I never said he didn't belong in the ROH. I still think that. Romo was a good QB. He was very exciting to watch. But he was also very frustrating to watch. And it was hard to defend him. I'm surrounded by Eagle and Steeler fans and they thought he was a joke. And as much as I criticized him , I always said the biggest obstacle to us winning a championship was Jerry Jones. I like Romo personally and I enjoy watching him on TV. I think he's very good at what he does. I just don't know why we have to go revisit his years so much because they're wasted years IMO.

 

[T-RO]

Being a cowboy fan in Philly you can't have much vulnerability you have to have a really thick hide because you are taking a serious beating continually.

These people in this area hate the Dallas cowboys like nothing else on Earth and make no bones about it

10 years ago I had 0 siblings in Philadelphia
5 years ago I had 1
Now I have 3

My sister asked me to visit. I said "no way in hell"

 

[Blackrain]

You don't know that. Every HOF QB has had a great team. Do you think we win the SB's we did without Roger? Because we couldn't with Morton and we couldn't with White. Do the 49ers win all those Sbs without Montana ? I wonder how many fan bases go on and on about a QB who was good that just couldn't get it done? The one QB I will say that did have a gripe was Archie Manning. Now his team was trash but I don't hear Saints fans going on about him. Great QBs lift their team up. Romo never did. Elway couldn't win a SB until he got a complete team but he led 3 mediocre Denver teams to the SB and had great AFCCG moments against Cleveland to get there. I mean you just can see he was a great QB. Just never saw it with Romo. He had the talent but he never used it when it mattered.

Got to agree elway needed a running game to complete his career and he struggled until he got one.

In my opinion I can't understand why Don Shula didn't give Dan Marino some type of a running game.

Leave it would have taken him to some super bowl wins if he had players like Larry csonka Mercury Morris and Jim kick to help him out.

 

[PA Cowboy Fan]

Just noticed:
PA Cowboy Fan...where the PA is reference to Pennsylvania
Blackrain just posted he's in the Philly area

I'm guessing you know each other pretty well.

Ganging up on me?

. I live in Waynesboro near the MD Boarder. And I grew up in N.C. I never met him but he is very smart when it comes to the Cowboys. We just know how it is to be made fun of for being Cowboy fans. It never used to be like this. The Cowboys used to be respected and feared. Not any longer. And both of us remember when Roger played. He was the main reason I became a Cowboy fan. I wonder how many fans started rooting for the Cowboys because of Romo?

 

[Blackrain]

10 years ago I had 0 siblings in Philadelphia
5 years ago I had 1
Now I have 3

My sister asked me to visit. I said "no way in hell"

Smart move trust me you're not missing anything I avoid the city like the plague the mountains of Pennsylvania are beautiful and where I spend my free time.

 

[Blackrain]

. I live in Waynesboro near the MD Boarder. And I grew up in N.C. I never met him but he is very smart when it comes to the Cowboys. We just know how it is to be made fun of for being Cowboy fans. It never used to be like this. The Cowboys used to be respected and feared. Not any longer. And both of us remember when Roger played. He was the main reason I became a Cowboy fan. I wonder how many fans started rooting for the Cowboys because of Romo?

Our fandom is quite the same and we deal with the same stuff in our area it's a difficult place to be a cowboys fan even dangerous under the right set of circumstances.

When you went to those games at the old veterans stadium it was a tactical mission because you were going behind enemy lines and there was nobody there that was going to save you including the police.

 

[Blackrain]

Agree with you that we had a very good defense and of course that helped Roger.

But you must also take into consideration that he played some of the absolute best defenses that were ever assembled.
Those defenses back then were allowed to do things that probably aren't even allowed to be shown on TV anymore.
Then being a quarterback was more like a heavyweight boxing match you had to protect yourself at all times because the rules were not there to protect you at all.

 

[Blackrain]

I'm a believer in circumstances alter cases and the circumstances that Roger and Tony played under were very different.
Think in Rogers day it was much more difficult to play quarterback and accumulate a lot of good stats and it took a really special kind of person to absorb the abuse and be able to get a team over the hump I think as time went on to make a more watchable game the league made things much easier for the quarterback to be successful this is just my opinion.

 

[T-RO]

Smart move trust me you're not missing anything I avoid the city like the plague the mountains of Pennsylvania are beautiful and where I spend my free time.

My eldest sister is a massive academic celebrity (huge awards, etc). Taught at UC Berkeley and then at U of Penn before her recent retirement. Two younger fame/approval seeking sibs chased down the opportunity to settle near her.

Ick.

 

[T-RO]

PA boys,

If you think this little cordial chat is going to stop me from continuing this Romo thread...

Think again.

 

[Blackrain]

One of the reasons I think it's so important to have watched the players in the moment is the feeling you have while you are watching them play the game.

Maybe it was my youth but I was always supremely confident when Roger was at the helm.
Was a feeling that made me do absolutely anything to be able to watch the game.

Conversely when watching Tony I felt very helpless and was always anticipating the worst to happen feeling like disaster was right around the corner maybe as I got older I just got jaded.

But in short for me it was a much more enjoyable experience watching Rodger Staubach play then it was Tony Romo and when it's all said and done I guess that's what we're looking for an enjoyable experience.
Lucky enough to see what I believe was the best of cowboy football watching Roger Staubach lead my seventies cowboys it was the most enjoyable to me and that's where I will leave this.

 

[T-RO]

Conversely when watching Tony I felt very helpless

Misplaced anxiety.

Defenses in the Romo era defense bled out of multiple orifices. Profusely. That's what was making you nervous. That, and all the media false hype about Romo as "choker", which was fiction. (Mass media is so full of crap)

Two hard cold facts: In the regular season Romo had the same interception rate as P Manning. In the postseason Romo threw almost no interceptions. (2 in 6 games)

 

[Established1971]

The smarter here know that Romo is high up the leader list in all-time 4th quarter NFL comebacks, ranking #21st.

But let's investigate that ranking with greater insight. Romo simply didn't play as many games as guys at the very top of the list. Coming from a small college, he didn't get a shot at starting for Dallas until his third year. And then with his back injuries, Tony's career was cut short.

How about we look at a more revealing number. On a per-game basis which QBs in NFL history were most likely to deliver a 4th quarter comeback?

In this thread I'll also explore how many fields Romo has enjoyed success: Football, Golf, Broadcasting, Commercials, Family, Predictor, Bailer-out-ofJerry, and Funny Guy. And yes, we'll even hear from an NBA player who competed with Tony and seriously thought Romo could have had a career in the NBA!

As we all know Romo never achieved success as a field goal holder. And some reports are that he's not always great at some community park pastimes. If you want to be small and focus on that...you go for it!

Next up...the numbers: Captain Comeback.

When I started watching in the 70s Staubach was Captain Comeback because of some dramatic games where he pulled out an unlikely win with mutliple scores very late in the game (e.g. SF 72, Minn 75) I think Jim Hart, if I remember correctly was another one who had that distinction. Nowadays if the 4th quarter begins and your team is down 21-20 and you win they call it a "4th quarter comeback. Its lost all meaning.

 

[Blackrain]

Misplaced anxiety.

Defenses in the Romo era defense bled out of multiple orifices. Profusely. That's what was making you nervous. That, and all the media false hype about Romo as "choker", which was fiction. (Mass media is so full of crap)

Two hard cold facts: In the regular season Romo had the same interception rate as P Manning. In the postseason Romo threw almost no interceptions. (2 in 6 games)

I never viewed Romo as a choker he always wrote it like he stole it at a hundred miles an hour with his hair on fire.

Tony Romo was going to throw the ball and have fun regardless of the outcome.

Tony was in love with his arm and nobody was talking him out of it. A choker is tentative Tony was never that way no level of disaster ever changed the way he played.
And when disaster happened in our end of the field you're 100% right there was no way our defense was holding anybody or making a play to get the ball back.

We're usually so demoralized by by what happened they just folded like a cheap suit and went home


It was never ever the amount of interceptions Tony threw it was always about when they happened.
Most memorable were unable to be overcome and that's why they were so memorable it was never about the number

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

And I never said he didn't belong in the ROH. I still think that. Romo was a good QB. He was very exciting to watch. But he was also very frustrating to watch. And it was hard to defend him. I'm surrounded by Eagle and Steeler fans and they thought he was a joke. And as much as I criticized him , I always said the biggest obstacle to us winning a championship was Jerry Jones. I like Romo personally and I enjoy watching him on TV. I think he's very good at what he does. I just don't know why we have to go revisit his years so much because they're wasted years IMO.

Favre had much of the same issue. I wonder if he is hated in the same way up in Green bay.

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

I never viewed Romo as a choker he always wrote it like he stole it at a hundred miles an hour with his hair on fire.

Tony Romo was going to throw the ball and have fun regardless of the outcome.

Tony was in love with his arm and nobody was talking him out of it. A choker is tentative Tony was never that way no level of disaster ever changed the way he played.
And when disaster happened in our end of the field you're 100% right there was no way our defense was holding anybody or making a play to get the ball back.

We're usually so demoralized by by what happened they just folded like a cheap suit and went home


It was never ever the amount of interceptions Tony threw it was always about when they happened.
Most memorable were unable to be overcome and that's why they were so memorable it was never about the number

Wait a second....are you telling us the team was "demoralized" by TONY? Or just by EVERYthing in general? Including defense folding like a cheap lawn chair?

How many times did you expect a miracle from Tony? How many comebacks per game? Sooner later the law of averages come in no matter how much of a comeback kid you are.

 

[PA Cowboy Fan]

Favre had much of the same issue. I wonder if he is hated in the same way up in Green bay.

Well he did win a SB so they at least got something out of him. And that was GB's first title since the Lombardi years so I think he was treated like a hero. If Romo would have won a SB he would have been treated as royalty around here. Even if he only had one title. At least he would have done it.

 

[Blackrain]

Wait a second....are you telling us the team was "demoralized" by TONY? Or just by EVERYthing in general? Including defense folding like a cheap lawn chair?

How many times did you expect a miracle from Tony? How many comebacks per game? Sooner later the law of averages come in no matter how much of a comeback kid you are.

Just didn't have much faith in those defenses back then . Not much chance in them ever getting us the ball back.