Where's Waldo (Owens)

[Hostile]

Thanks for changing up your previous stance. You went from saying he was washed up and a has been headed to the unemployment line to him not being what he once was. We agree on that. Don't think he can't help a team in a big way though.

My stance was and is that he should retire because his skills are declining. He is over. If his production gets any worse he will be smudging his own image worse than his mouth already does.

 

[Hostile]

And playing with Trent Edwards had nothing to do with the declining production either. Yeah, you know football.

Who is the cruel son of a ***** who put a gun to his head and forced him to sign a contract with the Buffalo Bills. I will kick that jerk's *** for your hero.

 

[Hostile]

I didnt say you hated him. I just said you were hatin.

The defintion of hatin' means you diss or not acknowledge someones accomplishments or abilities because of personal ones personal feelings.

Emmitt Smith was only good b/c of his O-line....thats a hatin comment.

Emmitt Smith's job was made easier b/c of the o-line....thats a true statement.

I could give 2 hoots in hell of a definition of hatin'. When I know I do not have hate in my heart I will defend myself from the label. It is really just that simple.

I do not respect the jargon and will not acknowledge it except to deny it.

 

[Hostile]

See this is what Im talkin about hostile... This is whats called and AA. (Agenda Argument). Is TO the same receiver he was no, no, and no again, but lets just take 2007 and 2008. Romo missed 4 games. If Romo plays or even if we had a suitable backup, he easily gets an extra 150 to 200 yards and 2 to 3 tds. Look at everone elses (wittens, craytons) stats b/c of romo not being there for the entire season....Movin on to buffalo..no OC at the beginning of the season, depleted O-line, and trent edwards was hot garbage. You know football, we all know that, but you are choosing to ignore that at the moment. TO can still give someone 8 to 10 tds with a good qb on a good team.

No, I am not ignoring anything. Including the fact that Terrell Owens made the choice to go to Buffalo. I find it specious at best to narc on the QBs he had there when they were there before he got there.

He's the mindless babbling idiot who has trashed 2 of the best QBs of this decade and a third one who was pretty dang good in his own right.

So I refuse to cry for Terrell Owens' poor circumstances at QB, because quite frankly he doesn't deserve a good QB. He can barely respect them when he has them. In 2008 Edwards was seen as emerging star who was going to take the job from Losman. Give him a "better weapon" in Owens and he regresses?

So I put no weight upon where he is or who his QB is. This is the guy who supposedly makes QBs. He made Romo. Those were the airheaded claims on this site. Exactly the opposite is suddenly true.

It is never Owens fault. Except that it is entirely his fault.

 

[Hostile]

Sometimes I don't like you.

Why didn't you take RW 2007 stats?

Because I was using 2 years and saying that in 2010 his 3rd year would again show improvement rather than decline. It really wasn't that hard to figure out.

 

[DaBoys4Life]

Because I was using 2 years and saying that in 2010 his 3rd year would again show improvement rather than decline. It really wasn't that hard to figure out.

Two years for RW 3 years for TO and no mention of QB play. I see way to manipulate stats to fit your agenda.

 

[Hostile]

Two years for RW 3 years for TO and no mention of QB play. I see way to manipulate stats to fit your agenda.

What agenda?

He said TO was not declining. The stats show otherwise. All I did was prove his supposition false. It didn't even take much effort.

He's the one who brought up RW. Not me. I do not draw parallels between the two of them because they have different roles with this team. The more proper parallel is with Austin. #1 compared with #1. But I don't expect intellectual honesty in these Owens debates. That is a fantasy.

 

[Doomsday101]

I think TO can still play the game problem is he can't get along with QB's. I could see if he had a problem with 1 QB but that is not the case he has had issues with every QB he has played with and somehow the TO apologist put it on the QB.

Frankly I don't think he could play with guys like Montana because the 1st time Joe got on him about a drop or some other mistake TO would go into the same old pouting routine.

Fact is he can't take any form of criticism and great QB's are not shy about getting after their WR when they screw up same with HC and OC as soon as they bark TO goes into the I want to be treated like a man yet he does not act like a man he act like a little spoiled brat.

TO has million dollar talent and a 10 cent brain and that is what people will remember him for.

 

[khiladi]

He said he could play two more years, so he'll sign somewhere simply because he wants to play.

 

[Doomsday101]

He said he could play two more years, so he'll sign somewhere simply because he wants to play.

So that is 2 more teams he can play for? :laugh2:

 

[Gzus]

Rumor has it Ochouno wants to join Ochocinco....

 

[Hostile]

Rumor has it Ochouno wants to join Ochocinco....

If it happens Cincy will go from 12-4 to 8-8.

 

[Rampage]

If it happens Cincy will go from 12-4 to 8-8.

they went 10-6 this past season just so you know

 

[Hostile]

they went 10-6 this past season just so you know

I know that. I was mocking Ochocinco. Badly...

 

[thechosen1n2]

I could give 2 hoots in hell of a definition of hatin'. When I know I do not have hate in my heart I will defend myself from the label. It is really just that simple.

I do not respect the jargon and will not acknowledge it except to deny it.

And alot of the reason many dont respect the jargon is because it it over used...TERRIBLY OVERUSED, but you sir knock this man for things he should not be knocked for. Just Stick to the Facts. His 08 stats are not because of his huge decline.

 

[thechosen1n2]

What agenda?

He said TO was not declining. The stats show otherwise. All I did was prove his supposition false. It didn't even take much effort.

He's the one who brought up RW. Not me. I do not draw parallels between the two of them because they have different roles with this team. The more proper parallel is with Austin. #1 compared with #1. But I don't expect intellectual honesty in these Owens debates. That is a fantasy.

You ignore the fact that he said you manipulated the stats, and you know you did. Is he declining...yes, is he washed up no. His stats the past two years are not do to decline, though he is declining. People said the same thing about moss a few years back.

 

[stilltheguru]

If TO goes to Cinci Hos will just ignore the stats TO puts up and bring up the fact that they may have a bad record. Nevermind the fact that he will be proven completely wrong that TO is washed up. It's the same thing all the time about TO on here. They PRAY that he doesn't go to a team with a good qb. I promise you that!

 

[stilltheguru]

And alot of the reason many dont respect the jargon is because it it over used...TERRIBLY OVERUSED, but you sir knock this man for things he should not be knocked for. Just Stick to the Facts. His 08 stats are not because of his huge decline.

Romo being hurt had nothing to do with it. Oline injuries had nothing to do with it. The great defenses we played towards the end of the year, which is an excuse people gave Romo as to why he struggled at the end of that year had nothing to do with it.

 

[Hostile]

And alot of the reason many dont respect the jargon is because it it over used...TERRIBLY OVERUSED, but you sir knock this man for things he should not be knocked for. Just Stick to the Facts. His 08 stats are not because of his huge decline.

I actually only knock TO for ONE thing, his own stupid mouth. He simply is not about team, he is about him and I don't respect that. When the guy was all world, you take a chance on a talent like that. he is no longer all world, and you don't. Jerry realized he was on the decline, not worth his salary and he drew a circle on a napkin.

It's really just that simple, and yes the jargon is over used and annoying.

 

[Hostile]

If TO goes to Cinci Hos will just ignore the stats TO puts up and bring up the fact that they may have a bad record. Nevermind the fact that he will be proven completely wrong that TO is washed up. It's the same thing all the time about TO on here. They PRAY that he doesn't go to a team with a good qb. I promise you that!

Your eyes are brown right now because of something you are full of. That whole diatribe was a load of crap.