Which franchise (Dallas or Green Bay) wasted the most opportunities/talent?

[McKDaddy]

why would i need or want to know 5 receivers on green bay.
i'm a cowboys fan.
screw green bay and their over-rated,back stabbing cry baby qb who chokes in the big moment.

well, knowledge of what you are speaking about comes to mind ....

 

[McKDaddy]

he chokes.

if you are happy telling yourself that, be blissful my friend.

 

[CowboyRoy]

what a load of GARBAGE.
Yeah, Rodgers has 1 and it clearly shows how it isnt about the QB.
Now in the years Rodgers has played and didnt win... lets see, hmmmmmmmmmmmm
Brady, Eli, Peyton, Brees, Rothlisberger, russel wilson, Flaco, Mahomes, Foles, are ALL of the SB winning QBs. Out of those Qbs, 7 out of the 9 will be in the HOF. Now lets add in Rodgers year, and that makes 8 out of 10 that will be n HOF. So during Rodgers career, 80% of the SB winning QBs are gonna be HOF qbs. Yea, you are right, Rodgers only winning 1 SB proves it isnt just about having that great qb...... smh

Well if Rogers is the best QB during his time, and he didnt win EVERY year, then its obviously because he didnt have the right team around him every other time. And since worse QB's like Foles and Flacco have won its not about having the best QB now is it? A QB needs GREAT players around him to win it.

NOT ALL ABOUT THE QB!!

Nope, its proof positive. This is the ONE football 101 point that most fans dont understand about the game.

 

[WillieBeamen]

Opportunities: Green Bay (4 Championship Games lost under Rodgers)

Talent: Dallas

Wasted the careers of Jason Witten, Dez Bryant, Demarcus Ware, Tony Romo, Tyron Smith, Zack Martin

 

[john van brocklin]

I think 4 is conservative. Imagine the late 90s cowboys with additions like Zach Thomas, Jayson Taylor, Patrick Surtain........ Jimmy would have kept that defense elite.

You're depressing me, lol

 

[john van brocklin]

Beginning of free agency killed us

Secondary to Jimmy leaving, yes

 

[NotForLong]

Secondary to Jimmy leaving, yes

You are right . . . Jimmy was number #1 reason . . . but we got hit hard in that initial wave of Free Agency . . Stepnoski and Norton were leaders on this team and Harper was the prototypical #2 . . . they were 3 keys to our Championship teams

 

[john van brocklin]

You are right . . . Jimmy was number #1 reason . . . but we got hit hard in that initial wave of Free Agency . . Stepnoski and Norton were leaders on this team and Harper was the prototypical #2 . . . they were 3 keys to our Championship teams

Yep, if we kept jimmy and no free agency we would have been a force for years.
Crying about what could have been , lol

 

[atlantacowboy]

You are right . . . Jimmy was number #1 reason . . . but we got hit hard in that initial wave of Free Agency . . Stepnoski and Norton were leaders on this team and Harper was the prototypical #2 . . . they were 3 keys to our Championship teams

It was the combination of losing guys and not replacing them. The 95-2002 drafts were disastrous. Over a period of 8 drafts, Jerry found 4 good players. Jimmy was the guy picking the players and without him, the draft was usually a disaster.

 

[Jake]

and.

fact still remains the mighty,undefeated,unscored upon aaron rodgers led packers are 0-4 in nfc champ games...post lonely super bowl win.

And the fact remains the Cowboys haven't played in an NFC championship game in 25 years. Repeating what you said earlier doesn't make it less inaccurate.

It is interesting that you reference defense (unscored upon) while talking about a QB, as if that's the QB's doing.

 

[Hennessy_King]

Go back to sleep Hennessy

Lol you know it had to be said

 

[tyke1doe]

1994 would have been interesting. That 49er team was very very good. Young was historically good and stealing Norton from us and landing Deion was a big swing in defensive talent

True. But Jimmy Johnson never feared Deion. He knew how to attack Deion, which would have been running Emmitt straight at him.
Truth be told, that game hinged on turnovers. We gave up the ball on the first three possessions and allowed the 49ers to jump out to a 21-0 lead. Jimmy Johnson teams did not give up turnovers like that. And, Emmitt was injured that game but still put up an Emmitt-like performance.

We knew how to play the 49ers and, honestly, they FEARED the Cowboys with Johnson. With Switzer? We were a shell of our former selves.

 

[Reid1boys]

Compare the defenses Brady and Rodgers have had throughout their careers, especially in the play offs. I'm not claiming Rodgers is better than Brady but to belittle Rodgers because he has only won 1 Superbowl is ridiculous. I guess you think Nick Foles is better than Dan Marino?

Rodgers gets blamed for losing games in OT when he didn't even have an opportunity to throw the blooming ball! His performance vs Arizona pretty much sums up Green Bay over the last 10 years. Rodgers made two exceptional, worldly throws to garbage can receivers to even get the team to OT only for the defense to allow Carson Palmer, who was all over the place by that point, make a spawny little pass into a game winnner.

Please don't compare Dak Prescott to Aaron Rodgers. It's just embarrassing. If Rodgers played for the Cowboys in 2016 we reach the Superbowl at the very least and likely win it given the strength of the offensive line and all the weapons as Rodgers could have won shootouts, unlike Prescott. The Cowboys defense wasn't as bad as people made out in 2016. It had a poor first half but they played very well in the 2nd half. Unfortunately the offense faltered in the first half.

IM no Dak apologist, but comparing

Well if Rogers is the best QB during his time, and he didnt win EVERY year, then its obviously because he didnt have the right team around him every other time. And since worse QB's like Foles and Flacco have won its not about having the best QB now is it? A QB needs GREAT players around him to win it.

NOT ALL ABOUT THE QB!!

Nope, its proof positive. This is the ONE football 101 point that most fans dont understand about the game.

HUh?????? IM literally laughing at that. There are exceptions to just about everything. There is no way in hell Foles wins a SB with the Eagles if he was the starting QB the entire season. Fact is, Carson Wentz would have been the league MVP that year had he not been injured, so the Eagles were in great position when Foles stepped in and only had to win 3 games.

Regardless of that.... 80%.... look at the numbers 80% of the freaking time during Rodgers career the team that won the SB had a HOF (future) QB. Not sure how much more you need to see than those numbers.

The best proof ever was Brady going to the Bucs. Yea yea yea... tell me more about the great Bucs defense and how it carried them. That great defense had carried them all the way to dog crap the previous 15 seasons or so until Brady arrived.

 

[cowboyec]

And the fact remains the Cowboys haven't played in an NFC championship game in 25 years. Repeating what you said earlier doesn't make it less inaccurate.

It is interesting that you reference defense (unscored upon) while talking about a QB, as if that's the QB's doing.

thanks jake...from state farm.
tell the mighty undefeated,unscored upon 0-4 in nfc title games aaron rodgers that i think he's over-rated.

 

[tyke1doe]

since Favre? Favre wasted a lot of talent by never trying to understand the how to play the position in the way that best benefited the team.

Since Favre means including Favre, i.e., since Favre joined the team.

 

[tyke1doe]

..I didn't know Rodgers has lost 3 NFC championship games. That takes the cake. At least Dallas hasn't lost one in 25ys...lol..

Against San Francisco
Against Seattle
Against Tampa Bay

 

[cowboyec]

if you are happy telling yourself that, be blissful my friend.

screw green bay.

 

[cowboyec]

well, knowledge of what you are speaking about comes to mind ....

im not a packers fan.
screw'm.

 

[cowboyec]

the lack of talent around him is one of the big reasons he is at odds with the team now. they only got those chances because he was their QB. sorry but average or even above average QB's aren't getting those teams to the championship game.

shouldn't the greatest QB who has ever existed be able to lift his team in the clutch.
i mean.
he's the greatest to ever take a snap according to some around here.
throw'm open....right.
oh...wait.
he's not the greatest.
never mind.

 

[kskboys]

IM no Dak apologist, but comparing


HUh?????? IM literally laughing at that. There are exceptions to just about everything. There is no way in hell Foles wins a SB with the Eagles if he was the starting QB the entire season. Fact is, Carson Wentz would have been the league MVP that year had he not been injured, so the Eagles were in great position when Foles stepped in and only had to win 3 games.

Regardless of that.... 80%.... look at the numbers 80% of the freaking time during Rodgers career the team that won the SB had a HOF (future) QB. Not sure how much more you need to see than those numbers.

The best proof ever was Brady going to the Bucs. Yea yea yea... tell me more about the great Bucs defense and how it carried them. That great defense had carried them all the way to dog crap the previous 15 seasons or so until Brady arrived.

Foles had 2 great games, one mediocre game, and 3 bad ones. He's known for his inconsistency, but got hot at the right time. I agree, Eagles might not have even made the playoffs if he starts all season.