Which franchise (Dallas or Green Bay) wasted the most opportunities/talent?

[MoistMayonnaise]

Dallas.

EOS

 

[Reid1boys]

The Green Bay Packers since Favre or the Dallas Cowboys since Jimmy Johnson?

Some argue to only have two Super Bowl victories between Favre and Rodgers is highly egregious and is a waste of great quarterbacking talent. Rodgers has lost three NFC Championship games, one at home and one at Seattle, which the Packers had in the bag. Favre loss one to the Cowboys (which he should have) and to the Giants at Lambeau Field, in which they also had a huge advantage.

Others argue that the Cowboys should have not only won three Super Bowls, but would have won at least five had Jimmy Johnson stayed as coach. Add to that the fact that the Cowboys twice had home field advantage throughout the playoffs in 2008 and 2017 and blew it, losing to the Giants and the Packers, and, for the most part, wasted the talents of Tyron Smith, Zach Martin, Travis Frederic, Tony Romo, Terrell Owens, and DeMarcus Ware, who had to join Denver to wear a ring.

So of the two franchises, which do you think squandered the most talent and opportunities over the past 30 years?

IM not gonna do it, because it simply doesnt matter anymore.... but in todays NFL, start counting the number of teams that had home field throughout the playoffs and didnt win or make the SB. There are quite a few. Again, the old days are LONG GONE. Getting home field doesnt do jack, except mean you will play at home as long as you are playing.

 

[Reid1boys]

Hard call.
If Jimmy had stayed, think we would have won 4 straight super bowls.
That's a hard pill to swallow.

If only Jimmy was there in 94, im sure we wouldnt have turned the ball over 20 times in the 1st quarter.... there is no doubt in my mind......... smh

 

[JBS]

People in here are legit complaining about Rodgers winning only 1 super bowl Lolol

get a life

 

[Reid1boys]

Without a doubt the Packers. I hear all the time that Rodgers is one of the greatest QBs to ever play and is only behind Brady as the best QB of our generation. But yet he has only has "1" Super Bowl win to show for it. His supporters on here will say "Look at his stats" while they say Dak's stats don't mean anything.

IMO, the topic is funny. Brees is an all time great. He has 1 ring.
Peyton Manning is an all time great. He has 2 rings.
Favre is an all time great. He has 1 ring.


Winning Super Bowls is damn hard.

 

[Robbieac]

I see the local Cowboys Homers have come out of the woodworks to strangely try and dump on Rodgers while they ignore the complete and utter failure of a garbage franchise that we have had for 25+ years.

Such a weird fanbase...

 

[BermyStar]

Cowboys. How we didn’t win a SB with Quincy Carter is mind boggling……

I was gonna read the rezt of the thread, but... I am adequately fulfilled with this comment.

 

[ConstantReboot]

The Green Bay Packers since Favre or the Dallas Cowboys since Jimmy Johnson?

Some argue to only have two Super Bowl victories between Favre and Rodgers is highly egregious and is a waste of great quarterbacking talent. Rodgers has lost three NFC Championship games, one at home and one at Seattle, which the Packers had in the bag. Favre loss one to the Cowboys (which he should have) and to the Giants at Lambeau Field, in which they also had a huge advantage.

Others argue that the Cowboys should have not only won three Super Bowls, but would have won at least five had Jimmy Johnson stayed as coach. Add to that the fact that the Cowboys twice had home field advantage throughout the playoffs in 2008 and 2017 and blew it, losing to the Giants and the Packers, and, for the most part, wasted the talents of Tyron Smith, Zach Martin, Travis Frederic, Tony Romo, Terrell Owens, and DeMarcus Ware, who had to join Denver to wear a ring.

So of the two franchises, which do you think squandered the most talent and opportunities over the past 30 years?

Green Bay wasted in the most opportunity. They have Rogers - which is one of the great QBs in the league.

All they needed to do was build a defense and somewhat of a running game. They relied too much on Rogers and he couldn't get the team over the hump.

Dallas never was in a position to succeed during this time frame. Sure they had Romo. But there was really nothing about this team that stood it than Romo passing the ball. We will have issues till this day.
Bad GM, bad coaching, overrated players, and a suspect defense has plagued us for more than 2 decades.

We are slowly adapting to building a championship. But some of those issues still linger till now. Hopefully, a changing of the guard to MM will fix alot of these issues.

 

[Swagger]

Without a doubt the Packers. I hear all the time that Rodgers is one of the greatest QBs to ever play and is only behind Brady as the best QB of our generation. But yet he has only has "1" Super Bowl win to show for it. His supporters on here will say "Look at his stats" while they say Dak's stats don't mean anything.

Compare the defenses Brady and Rodgers have had throughout their careers, especially in the play offs. I'm not claiming Rodgers is better than Brady but to belittle Rodgers because he has only won 1 Superbowl is ridiculous. I guess you think Nick Foles is better than Dan Marino?

Rodgers gets blamed for losing games in OT when he didn't even have an opportunity to throw the blooming ball! His performance vs Arizona pretty much sums up Green Bay over the last 10 years. Rodgers made two exceptional, worldly throws to garbage can receivers to even get the team to OT only for the defense to allow Carson Palmer, who was all over the place by that point, make a spawny little pass into a game winnner.

Please don't compare Dak Prescott to Aaron Rodgers. It's just embarrassing. If Rodgers played for the Cowboys in 2016 we reach the Superbowl at the very least and likely win it given the strength of the offensive line and all the weapons as Rodgers could have won shootouts, unlike Prescott. The Cowboys defense wasn't as bad as people made out in 2016. It had a poor first half but they played very well in the 2nd half. Unfortunately the offense faltered in the first half.

 

[Reid1boys]

Your comment is proof positive that its not all about the QB. If it was Rogers wins more than one SB. Those that understand football understand this point clearly.

what a load of GARBAGE.
Yeah, Rodgers has 1 and it clearly shows how it isnt about the QB.
Now in the years Rodgers has played and didnt win... lets see, hmmmmmmmmmmmm
Brady, Eli, Peyton, Brees, Rothlisberger, russel wilson, Flaco, Mahomes, Foles, are ALL of the SB winning QBs. Out of those Qbs, 7 out of the 9 will be in the HOF. Now lets add in Rodgers year, and that makes 8 out of 10 that will be n HOF. So during Rodgers career, 80% of the SB winning QBs are gonna be HOF qbs. Yea, you are right, Rodgers only winning 1 SB proves it isnt just about having that great qb...... smh

 

[cowboyec]

screw rodgers.
screw green bay.
screw'm all.
COWBOYS

 

[Reid1boys]

Green Bay wasted in the most opportunity. They have Rogers - which is one of the great QBs in the league.

All they needed to do was build a defense and somewhat of a running game. They relied too much on Rogers and he couldn't get the team over the hump.

Dallas never was in a position to succeed during this time frame. Sure they had Romo. But there was really nothing about this team that stood it than Romo passing the ball. We will have issues till this day.
Bad GM, bad coaching, overrated players, and a suspect defense has plagued us for more than 2 decades.

We are slowly adapting to building a championship. But some of those issues still linger till now. Hopefully, a changing of the guard to MM will fix alot of these issues.

Wasnt bik Mike the coach of the Packers when you said, "All they needed to do was build a defense and somewhat of a running game?" yet they didnt do it.

Then you turn around and say, now that big Mike is in Dallas, hopefully he can fix the lingering issues we have in Dallas??????? lol
Do you think the packers knew they needed a better defense and just said ****.... we are gonna role with what we got. Did they stop drafting players during Rodgers tenure with Mike?

 

[TheMightyVanHalen]

Winning Super Bowls is damn hard.

Exactly! People (not saying you) crap on Dak because he's all stats and no rings. He's barely entered the prime of his career? Let's give the man some time before we judge him and stone him to death. Geez.

 

[ConstantReboot]

Wasnt bik Mike the coach of the Packers when you said, "All they needed to do was build a defense and somewhat of a running game?" yet they didnt do it.

Then you turn around and say, now that big Mike is in Dallas, hopefully he can fix the lingering issues we have in Dallas??????? lol
Do you think the packers knew they needed a better defense and just said ****.... we are gonna role with what we got. Did they stop drafting players during Rodgers tenure with Mike?

The issues that plagued Green Bay won't be the issue that you'll have with Dallas.

First of all, Mike and their GM never got along. They would clash often and their GM actually was the one that lobbied to getting rid of Mike. In Dallas, Mike and Jerry seem to have a working relationship that didn't exist while Mike was in Green Bay.

Secondly, Mike won't need to focus on the defense. That will be Quinn's job. This years draft had Quinn's fingerprint all over it. Not Mike's.

Third, Aaron was calling a lot of the shots on offense. They built their entire program slinging the ball around with Rogers.

Lastly, I think Mike has learned from his past mistakes on what he did wrong in Green Bay. This is his second chance and doesn't want to ruin it. His not perfect - and I don't advocate he is a great coach. But comparing him to Garrett, I'd take what Mike has to offer anytime.

 

[TheMightyVanHalen]

Compare the defenses Brady and Rodgers have had throughout their careers, especially in the play offs. I'm not claiming Rodgers is better than Brady but to belittle Rodgers because he has only won 1 Superbowl is ridiculous. I guess you think Nick Foles is better than Dan Marino?

Rodgers gets blamed for losing games in OT when he didn't even have an opportunity to throw the blooming ball! His performance vs Arizona pretty much sums up Green Bay over the last 10 years. Rodgers made two exceptional, worldly throws to garbage can receivers to even get the team to OT only for the defense to allow Carson Palmer, who was all over the place by that point, make a spawny little pass into a game winnner.

Please don't compare Dak Prescott to Aaron Rodgers. It's just embarrassing. If Rodgers played for the Cowboys in 2016 we reach the Superbowl at the very least and likely win it given the strength of the offensive line and all the weapons as Rodgers could have won shootouts, unlike Prescott. The Cowboys defense wasn't as bad as people made out in 2016. It had a poor first half but they played very well in the 2nd half. Unfortunately the offense faltered in the first half.

Lord have mercy.

 

[TequilaCowboy]

Dallas

It is incredibly difficult to win a Super Bowl, even for teams with GOAT level QBs. Manning only got 2, Brees only 1, Marino has 0, Kelly has 0… point is the Packers winning one with each franchise QB is still admirable.

Dallas wasting the careers of Romo, Witten, Bryant, and Ware with mediocre coaching and refusal to address positions of need is far worse than GB only winning one each with Favre and Rodgers.

I agree, clearly Dallas. The Cowboys haven't even been able to PLAY in a game for the right to go to the SB. At least the Packers have had their chances in the NFC title games. Dallas has been bumbling, stumbling these past two decades and a half playing mostly mediocre football wasting the talents of those players you mentioned and more. What a waste. Thanks Jerry.

 

[Jake]

i'd say green bay.
rodgers has blown 4 other chances to get back to the super bowl.

The Cowboys haven't even played in a conference championship game for 25 years, homer.

 

[DandyDon52]

The Green Bay Packers since Favre or the Dallas Cowboys since Jimmy Johnson?

Some argue to only have two Super Bowl victories between Favre and Rodgers is highly egregious and is a waste of great quarterbacking talent. Rodgers has lost three NFC Championship games, one at home and one at Seattle, which the Packers had in the bag. Favre loss one to the Cowboys (which he should have) and to the Giants at Lambeau Field, in which they also had a huge advantage.

Others argue that the Cowboys should have not only won three Super Bowls, but would have won at least five had Jimmy Johnson stayed as coach. Add to that the fact that the Cowboys twice had home field advantage throughout the playoffs in 2008 and 2017 and blew it, losing to the Giants and the Packers, and, for the most part, wasted the talents of Tyron Smith, Zach Martin, Travis Frederic, Tony Romo, Terrell Owens, and DeMarcus Ware, who had to join Denver to wear a ring.

So of the two franchises, which do you think squandered the most talent and opportunities over the past 30 years?

lol that is a tough one!
both have squandered !
But not to worry, jerry hired the HC that squandered Rodgers early career, so now maybe dallas can take the lead
in this squandering battle!
This explains how jerry sees things, he only saw mikes SB win, and didnt even notice the squandered years with
great qb like rodgers.
We are going to be squandering champs now!

 

[DandyDon52]

The Cowboys haven't even played in a conference championship game for 25 years, homer.

could not that mean that dallas has been better at squandering??

 

[john van brocklin]

If only Jimmy was there in 94, im sure we wouldnt have turned the ball over 20 times in the 1st quarter.... there is no doubt in my mind......... smh

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