Which Head Coach that is available is better than Garrett right now?

[CowboysFaninHouston]

It's Garrett's fault he's bad at his job. Just because Jerry makes a bad decision about it doesn't mean any of us have to.

wow, you have a thick skull...and seemingly a listening (reading problem)....we all agreed, several pages ago.... garrett is not a good HC... but he is the HC...what do you want? have you personally reached out to Jerry and ask him to fire garrett? what's your point of argument or are you just arguing for the sake of arguing....

 

[Stash]

the rankings were for the first three years when wade was still a head coach...#3, #13, #2...so lets agree on that.

in 2010...the team quit on Wade...offense, defense, everyone...the culture was a circus, wade was a joke at that point. got no respect.....

after his firing, the team responded to garrett and he made a lot of immediate changes and brought seriousness to the team....like wade didn't have padded practices because jerry was afraid of player injuries so practices were more like walk throughs....

for example, garrett brought back padded practice with tackling....

again, the team quit on wade....everyone in the world saw that...undeniable.

Nope, not denied. But it's also undeniable that Garrett's offense went from scoring 20 points for the other guy and 29 points for himself. As well as outright costing the team game one against the Commanders. Not only could his offense not score, they gave points to the other team. Dubious to be sure.

 

[Haimerej]

Entirely relevant. Perfect example of a dysfunctional organization. Deal with it.

I'm dealing with it by pointing out it's irrelevant.

Offensively? Not at all. He even admits it in his own book. He coached half the team and spoke at the press conferences. Garrett was gifted the offense before Wade ever got here. But again, you keep trying to call that "irrelevant" because it screws up your excuses.

What excuses? Lol

Again- under Wade's leadership the team was 1-7. Under Garrett- 5-3. That's reality, no excuses necessary.

Oh, I'm sorry, you see head coaches are hired first and then they choose their assistants, guys to run things the way the head coach wants them run, not the other way around. I didn't realize that you weren't familiar with this fact.

Why did it work up until 1-7?

I won't dispute this assertion at all. Wade cut his own throats with all of his "that's one me" nonsense. Eventually, it was and he paid the price.

But that doesn't excuse Garrett for his bumbling either.

Why was it nonsense for Wade to take responsibility for his team?

Because Garrett's clearly the head coach of this team. He obviously doesn't coach the offense, he hired his buddy Linehan for that. And he hired Marinelli to run the defense for him so he doesn't run that. So where else should Garrett have responsibility if not for the ultimate winning and losing of this team? Where does he have accountability?

For the record, I have plenty of beef with the coordinators, especially Linehan. But I know who brought him here as well so I know who's ultimately responsible. Wade never brought Garrett here. Jerry did that.

If you recall, this started with me asking why you omitted 1-7 and tried to claim Garrett took over a playoff team. That's simply wrong.

As far as where Garrett takes accountability, he's accountable for where this team currently stands. You and the many other fans who want him gone mean nothing as long as Jerry wants him.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Then your remembrance of history is warped.

You're trying to give Garrett credit for things he had nothing to do with.

? this response made no sense...

what does inheriting a team have to do with anything they did?

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Tell me all about Kurt Vollers and the great Matt Lehr?

tell me about phil costa and kyle kosier and whomever was the left guard and doug free....

 

[Stash]

wow, you have a thick skull...and seemingly a listening (reading problem)....we all agreed, several pages ago.... garrett is not a good HC... but he is the HC...what do you want? have you personally reached out to Jerry and ask him to fire garrett? what's your point of argument or are you just arguing for the sake of arguing....

I'm arguing against any outright and bull**** that I see. If you resemble that remark, that's what I'm arguing with you.

So what is your point of argument then?

How thick is your skull?

How poor are your reading skills when you can't see the name Jerry Jones, despite it being typed about 20 times?

 

[Dre11]

Yeah, start with the part that the offense scored 20 points a me under Wade Andrew somehow 9 points more a game after he was fired. Under the same coordinator. What a mystery...

Lol a conspiracy theorist, the offense scored almost 30 points a game in the first 8 games that Wade was there...lol

 

[Stash]

? this response made no sense...

what does inheriting a team have to do with anything they did?

Your failed attempt to give Jason Garrett undeserved credit for "drafting this offense line".

A false narrative exposed.

 

[Stash]

Lol a conspiracy theorist, the offense scored almost 30 points a game in the first 8 games that Wade was there...lol

Again, do your homework. Like everything else, you're wrong again.

Embarrassing.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

That's Jerry Jones' fault. I've never said otherwise. What I have said is that Jerry's mistake doesn't absolve Garrett of his fault of not being able to handle the job he's been gifted.



Cool story, but baseless and unproveable.



Who are you talking about here?

actually harbaugh has proven to be a nut case...its not unprovable....if he wore out his welcome in SF and seemingly has banged heads with a few in Michigan...there is precendence that he may not be an easy coach to work with and would need the right owner....

and garrett was gifted a job....that's not his fault.....he is not good at it..ok.....but that's not of his doing...he just doesn't have the skills...like you don't have the skills to be a good physicist....that's not your fault..if I put you in a physics lab...you will suck at it.... that's not your FAULT..its your incompetence...there is a big difference...

 

[Haimerej]

No, facts are.

Address those. And the question asked. What successful organization handles hires in such an *** backwards manner?

Deal with it.

Facts are not arguments, either.

In case you haven't figured it out, I answered the question by referring to the appeal to popularity. Your argument is basically, "no one else does that." That doesn't absolve Wade of his responsibility as HC.

For all your, "deal with it," statements, you apparently can't deal with the fact that Garrett didn't inherit a playoff team.

 

[Stash]

tell me about phil costa and kyle kosier and whomever was the left guard and doug free....

Answer my question first. You're the guy trying to pass those two off as good.

 

[Diehardblues]

Art Briles is available. His offense might be perfect for Dak. And Briles is used to dealing with criminal behaviored players.

If he can elevate one of the most dormant teams in NCAA imagine what he could here.

And no one will hire him and why he might the best available coach who’d work for Jerry.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Your failed attempt to give Jason Garrett undeserved credit for "drafting this offense line".

A false narrative exposed.

this is obvious that you have an agenda....and measuring success differently with different sticks.


you gave parcells credit for replenishing the team and adding talent.

you don't give the same credit to garrett when he was the head coach

what's the difference? as head coaches, they over saw and were involved directly in drafting and adding talent to the team.

 

[Stash]

actually harbaugh has proven to be a nut case...its not unprovable....if he wore out his welcome in SF and seemingly has banged heads with a few in Michigan...there is precendence that he may not be an easy coach to work with and would need the right owner....

And Parcells never did? Explain then how he managed to have coached for and left three teams before arriving in Dallas? If it could work with him, it could work with Harbaugh.

and garrett was gifted a job....that's not his fault.....he is not good at it..ok.....but that's not of his doing...he just doesn't have the skills...like you don't have the skills to be a good physicist....that's not your fault..if I put you in a physics lab...you will suck at it.... that's not your FAULT..its your incompetence...there is a big difference...

No there isn't. I still wouldn't be without fault when I screwed things up. I'd still be incompetent at the job I was hired for. The hiring managers mistake doesn't absolve me of my own.

 

[Diehardblues]

so its jerry's fault that Garrett still has a job...so why is it garrett's fault he still has a job?

Let me guess. You expect Jason to fire himself? Lol

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

It doesn't mean I'd be blameless for my own incompetence, does it?

yes it does...if you are English teacher and I hire you to be math teacher....just because you are teacher, doesn't mean you will be good at teaching everything...If I have you teach math class, not your fault. you never had the talent to be a math teacher.....or are you saying, if I hired you as a math teacher, then its your fault for not being good in math? and you should have learned it? and why didn't you?

 

[Stash]

this is obvious that you have an agenda....and measuring success differently with different sticks.

Pot meet kettle. At least I'm not making stuff up about Garrett drafting offensive linemen.

you gave parcells credit for replenishing the team and adding talent.

you don't give the same credit to garrett when he was the head coach

what's the difference? as head coaches, they over saw and were involved directly in drafting and adding talent to the team.

I'll give Garrett credit for adding talent. Nobody ever said otherwise. Parcells inherited a far lesser team that he turned around. That was the point.

But the drafts have been good under Garrett, the game results just doesn't match it. But he sure as hell didn't bang the table to draft these offensive linemen, that's a fallacy.

 

[Stash]

yes it does...if you are English teacher and I hire you to be math teacher....just because you are teacher, doesn't mean you will be good at teaching everything...If I have you teach math class, not your fault. you never had the talent to be a math teacher.....or are you saying, if I hired you as a math teacher, then its your fault for not being good in math? and you should have learned it? and why didn't you?

Don't talks about anyone else's reading skills. Ever.

 

[Dre11]

Yeah, start with the part that the offense scored 20 points a me under Wade Andrew somehow 9 points more a game after he was fired. Under the same coordinator. What a mystery...

20,27,27,21,35 in 5 games while Wade was there. All games that could’ve been won with just a little defense.