Which Head Coach that is available is better than Garrett right now?

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Oh wow, we have a grammar police...lol

Btw I think you meant to use “ “ and not *...lol
I most certainly did not. I like how you had to do some research and then edited your post to try and make yourself look less dumb. Sorry little buddy it did not work.
 

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I'm blaming Garrett for failing to do the job given to him. Try to keep up.
now you are hot under the collar...

I and many others on this thread have never denied garrett lack of football ability...

he sucks. ok... lets agree on that...

but who is keeping him on the job? you keep circling and avoiding to answer?

is that garrett';s fault that he still has a head coaching job?



The fact is that Parcells inherited an infinitely worse team, one lacking the most important position in sports. Any debates end there.



Only if you're looking for excuses.



Again, Parcells inherited a team that went 5-11 for 3 years prior.

The 2009 Cowboys went 11-5 and won a playoff game. Not in the same universe.
again, no denying and never did deny that parcells over all had a worse team....

the argument was that he had a little bit better OL....

and the team garrett had inherited was 1-7....and went 5-3 in the second half of the season and would have gone 6-2 if not for roy Williams infamous fumble against Detroit on his way for a TD just dropping the damn ball...

45 of the players on the team garrett inherited were replaced in 3 years....

only one with an agenda would spin the truth and ignore reality...

come back to earth
 

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I would be absolutely furious if someone stole Paul Chryst from my Badgers, even my beloved Cowboys.
That said the dude is going to be a great NFL head coach someday. Arguably the best pro style offensive mind in college football and a class act to boot.
I could see him as the next HC of the packers. He is a Wisconsin guy.
I believe the Cowboys actually tried to hire Chryst as an offensive coordinator a few years back before he was a head coach.

Yes, I think they did. As an assistant here. I think he's a top quality coach at any level, and what he's done at Wisconsin has been brilliant. Whoever gets him will look smart. I think the only thing that's he,d him back from the NFL has been his kids, and I think they're all off to college.

Harbaugh would be better than JG in the short term (1-2 seasons), but I dno about the long-term. I do think Harbaugh would jump to the NFL if he gets the right opportunity as the road to a championship at Michigan is arguably the hardest in the country with the B1G east what it is right now.

Long term would depend on Jerry Jones. If, as I feel some signs have shown, he's changing some of his ways, it might. If he hasn't, it won't.
 

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I most certainly did not. I like how you had to do some research and then edited your post to try and make yourself look less dumb. Sorry little buddy it did not work.

You’re dumber than I thought, I edited nothing....lol
 

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None of it wrong however.

And funny how the guy who falsely credits Garrett with drafting this offensive line dares to call anyone sles's "selective history"...
:facepalm:
oh, on the contrary you have made up quite a few things and purposely ignored many more.....it doesn't fit your agenda...

come on dude, we get it.... you hate garrett...you blame him for getting hired...you blame garrett for still having a job, you blame garrett for earth being flat....garrett is the worst coach ever and a peanut butter sandwich would do better...

we get your view.... but you still haven't answered, why does garrett have a job?
 

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Again, what's "silly" is any attempt to place them on equal footing. In any way. That's what's "just silly".

You admitted yourself that Garrett inherited the quarterback - Romo. The most precious and difficult thing to acquire in sports. And who was it again that was responible for Romo being that quarterback?

Duane Charles Parcells.

If the man did nothing else in his tenure, he got this team's quarterback right. When they went through failure after failure after failure after Aikman retired. Advantage. Big Bill.



Parcells inherited a team that had gone 5-11 for three straight seasons. Bottom of the heap.

He immediately took them to 10-6 and the playoffs.

The team Garrett inherited went 11-5 the year before. He proceeded to take them to three 8-8 seasons.

You want to try to establish equal footing where it doesn't exist.

Couple of things, 1. If you want to thank anyone for Romo, its Sean P and Quincy C is who should be thanked. Sean for convincing Romo to sign with Dallas and Quincy for being stupid. Parcells had little to do with Romo being a Cowboy, but he did keep him and help him so he get credit for that.

2. The team Garrett inherited was 1-7. The record the year before is meaningless. The talent on that team in 2010 was 1-7 when Garrett took over.

I by no means intend to say Parcells was a bad coach, or unsuccessful. I like Bill and wish he would have stuck it out for another year or two because I do think he built a good team and could have competed for a championship had he stayed and because if he had stayed, maybe there would never have been a Wade Phillips hire which set this team back 5 years. My whole argument is that you can't claim bill was a success because he was good at roster management but without playoff success but can call Garrett a complete failure because while he is good at roster management, he hasn't had any playoff success. It's a double standard.

One Coach went 34-30 0-2 in the playoffs in his 4 years and one went 36-28 1-1 in his first 4 years. Both have been better at roster management than the guy they took over for. IMO, both are quality coaches in the NFL. One is all time great,, one the story is still be written.. But if you want to call Garrett a failure, then you have say Parcell was a failure too. I don't believe either are.
 

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Garrett was completely in charge of that offense. Wade didn't know what was going on with it.
under garrett as OC...we were #3, #13, #2 and #7 in 2010, which is remarkable...

so the offense seemed to produce under garrett as the OC....

but I am sure somehow there is a fault in there I am missing.
 

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now you are hot under the collar...

I and many others on this thread have never denied garrett lack of football ability...

he sucks. ok... lets agree on that...

but who is keeping him on the job? you keep circling and avoiding to answer?

is that garrett';s fault that he still has a head coaching job?

How many times do I have to acknowledge Jerry Jones' name? What do you hope to accomplished in reading it yet again?


again, no denying and never did deny that parcells over all had a worse team....

Fair enough, that's all I've been saying.

the argument was that he had a little bit better OL....

Which I disagree with. And again, not having a quarterback ends any other debate.

and the team garrett had inherited was 1-7....and went 5-3 in the second half of the season and would have gone 6-2 if not for roy Williams infamous fumble against Detroit on his way for a TD just dropping the damn ball...

More coulda woulda shoulda?

Maybe if Garrett doesn't lose that week one game, Wade isn't 1-7 and fired either?

45 of the players on the team garrett inherited were replaced in 3 years....

only one with an agenda would spin the truth and ignore reality...

come back to earth

Pot meet kettle.
 

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Yes, Parcells had the far worse roster. It's not close. The team couldn't get quarterback right for years before he got here. He fixed that and got the team Romo.

If he did nothing else, he deserves a ton of credit for fixing that and righting the ship at sports most valuable position.

Garrett was gifted what Parcells built.

Romo, Ware, Witten. Perennial Pro Bowl talents. Wasted.
parcells does deserver credit for fixing the QB issue..absolutely..... no one denied that...actually thanks to Payton, who convinced Romo to come to dallas instead of Denver...

garrett got the QB and a team parcells had built...

and the offense in the 4 years as the OC produced...you can't deny that...

but drafts during wade area were a total failure.....and thus the team didn't get an injection of talent...second, Jerry made a trade for Roy Williams who was not that good and gave up three draft picks...which helped to further deplete the team of talent.....
 

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under garrett as OC...we were #3, #13, #2 and #7 in 2010, which is remarkable...

so the offense seemed to produce under garrett as the OC....

but I am sure somehow there is a fault in there I am missing.

Yeah, start with the part that the offense scored 20 points a me under Wade Andrew somehow 9 points more a game after he was fired. Under the same coordinator. What a mystery...
 

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How many times do I have to acknowledge Jerry Jones' name? What do you hope to accomplished in reading it yet again?




Fair enough, that's all I've been saying.



Which I disagree with. And again, not having a quarterback ends any other debate.



More coulda woulda shoulda?

Maybe if Garrett doesn't lose that week one game, Wade isn't 1-7 and fired either?



Pot meet kettle.
so its jerry's fault that Garrett still has a job...so why is it garrett's fault he still has a job?
 

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parcells does deserver credit for fixing the QB issue..absolutely..... no one denied that...actually thanks to Payton, who convinced Romo to come to dallas instead of Denver...

garrett got the QB and a team parcells had built...

and the offense in the 4 years as the OC produced...you can't deny that...

but drafts during wade area were a total failure.....and thus the team didn't get an injection of talent...second, Jerry made a trade for Roy Williams who was not that good and gave up three draft picks...which helped to further deplete the team of talent.....

I agree about the drafts. Under guys like Campo and Wade, just happy to be there, they were abysmal. I think there were similarly bad under Switzer as well. They're awful when the coaches aren't involved. (Or when Larry Lacewell is involved).
 

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I dont want to start another bash garret or who's going to be the next Head coach...

but I was thinking about this today, who's available and who's better than him right now at where he's at... I know he's been learning on the job.... most people do in this day and age, but looking at College coaches they have to learn Pro game... looking at coordinators they have to learn how to be a head coach. looking at Retreads, they have to learn how the game is played today...

so my question is simple Who could replace him & be better than him right now where he's at today with this franchise.
Not available but better (lots) than Garrett.
Jim Harbaugh
Kliff Kingsbury (bring him in as offensive coordinator and groom him).
 

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Yeah, start with the part that the offense scored 20 points a me under Wade Andrew somehow 9 points more a game after he was fired. Under the same coordinator. What a mystery...

the rankings were for the first three years when wade was still a head coach...#3, #13, #2...so lets agree on that.

in 2010...the team quit on Wade...offense, defense, everyone...the culture was a circus, wade was a joke at that point. got no respect.....

after his firing, the team responded to garrett and he made a lot of immediate changes and brought seriousness to the team....like wade didn't have padded practices because jerry was afraid of player injuries so practices were more like walk throughs....

for example, garrett brought back padded practice with tackling....

again, the team quit on wade....everyone in the world saw that...undeniable.
 

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oh, on the contrary you have made up quite a few things and purposely ignored many more.....it doesn't fit your agenda...

come on dude, we get it.... you hate garrett...you blame him for getting hired...you blame garrett for still having a job, you blame garrett for earth being flat....garrett is the worst coach ever and a peanut butter sandwich would do better...

we get your view.... but you still haven't answered, why does garrett have a job?

Tell us more about how Garrett's built this offensive line.
:lmao:

Talk about agendas...
 

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I'm fine with replacing Garrett if the replacement is objectively better. I can't think of anyone who's available that fits that bill.

Garrett is objectively crap at clock/game/situation management, and doubles down on his dogmas when reality tells him they're lacking - the *latest* GB loss for details.

His basic personnel management is good, but when it comes to making the most of the players he has, he both pigeon holes them for certain types of plays, but then stuffs a square peg in a round hole when he needs one. He doesn't adjust his scheme to the skills of the players, he expects his players to adjust to the needs of his scheme.

Garrett has good and bad. If we move on from him, we won't be getting any guarantees on the next one.
 

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Some of you guys have named college coaches that do not run pro style offenses (Dabo , Sumlin, ect)
Personally I think its pretty risky to go after a guy like that. The spread style hasn't proven to be an effective way to win in the NFL. Now i'm sure those dudes are smart and could run a pro-style offense, but they have yet to prove it.

I almost wan't us to hire Saban from bama and save college football. Saban wasn't successful as the fins coach, but I imagine that eats at him a little bit.
Of course he makes a boat load of cash from bama and has a built a juggernaut there so he may never leave
 
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