Which secondary players get resigned next year if any?

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Check our Cap space and Dead Cap money for that season.

Unless Dak is forthcoming with a backloaded contract we haven't the money to retain any of them ….unless you're willing to save some Cap space and releasing Zack Martin or Tyron Smith.

What do you expect them to do? Due to the numbers, they almost have zero choice but either to resign a few back, draft their replacements or sign bridge starters. Would you be ok with a safety tandem of Wilson and Thompson? There could be upwards of 3 main starter positions that have to fill in their secondary.
 

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Why would the Cowboys who have just drafted and invested in two CBs between 2nd and 4th rounds, (Diggs & Robinson) and still have the plans to re-sign leftover CBs Awuzie,
and Lewis ? Those two are on borrowed time here. And that's taking in consideration that they have legit market value as FAs.

- If it's truth to the rumor that the team is considering moving Awuzie to safety, then apparently they don't think in team's mind
that Awuzie is the best of the three. Unless they consider it imperative to move Awuzie in as a starter over Woods or Dix.
With a new coaching regime, i dunno how the current leftover crop is viewed in their minds.

- Apparently they think a lot of Anthony Brown to re-sign him to a long term deal.
I assume its a 3rd CB role but could they see him as a potential starter this year ? ( Yikes!) But We'll see.

- If Lewis does not ascend to the 3rd CB role, he will remain on the depth chart as a 4th CB, and depart in FA, imo.

- If Woods excels in a new different coverage scheme this year, he will be in content for a 2nd career contract renewal.
at And I'm not sold on either Xavier or Dix as sound reliable tackers.

- And will this be another yer 1 year deal for Dix ? ..who has a pro bowl invite to his resume, but he hasn't been coveted impact for a long term
deal from his last two NFL teams. He's seen as a plug in stopgap until the Cowboys can come up with better. (Jamal Adams?)
:rolleyes:

-It's unrealistic for the team to overturn their entire secondary in just one off-season, especially at the safety position. They are either going to have to extend their starters, find bridge players or draft their replacements.

-The rumblings about Awuzie regarding safety, is more about him filling the nickel safety role, in which the team will be in most of the time. It is my understanding he is going to be used in multiple roles, including playing CB.

-The team decided to bring Anthony Brown back as soon as they weren't able to land the top tier fa CB's. He wasn't their first choice and appears to have been brought back to add depth at the position knowing they needed a bridge type player if they were going to draft a CB. He has starting experience as well as experience in the nickel.

-Jamal Adams is a pipe dream by many Cowboy fans, who haven't even been in discussions with the Jets since last year. They aren't going to give up premium draft capital and reset the market at the safety position. If this was legitimate, don't you think they would of traded for Earl Thomas.
 

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Honestly think its is impossible to tell at this point. Much of the decisions hinge on how everyone plays this season, including the rookies.

Agree. It's an very early look at what they may do after the season. Many things can happen.
 
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We need 10 DB’s
Under contract:
1. Diggs
2. Brown
3. Robinson
4. Wilson

ST guys:
5. Thompson
6. Goodwin

We can get ST guys on cheap 1-year deals so if not these two then equivalents. But we probably want to draft two and sign another two in FA. Something like:
7. Worley
8. Clinton Dix
9. 1st round CB
10. 2nd round safety

Or if draft doesn’t support a 1st round CB
7. Awuzie
8. Clinton Dix
9. 2nd round safety
10. 3rd round corner

This is the most realistic approach that I have seen.
 

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What do you expect them to do? Due to the numbers, they almost have zero choice but either to resign a few back, draft their replacements or sign bridge starters. Would you be ok with a safety tandem of Wilson and Thompson? There could be upwards of 3 main starter positions that have to fill in their secondary.

We have $36m available in the Cap for 2021 and that doesn't include Dak's money..... the issue is compounded as there is so much Dead Cap space in most of the expensive contracts (except Martin and Smith).

Maybe we could look at getting Sherman or Peterson with this money that you've found.

Do you now get where we were coming from in the Dak debate?
 

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We have $36m available in the Cap for 2021 and that doesn't include Dak's money..... the issue is compounded as there is so much Dead Cap space in most of the expensive contracts (except Martin and Smith).

Maybe we could look at getting Sherman or Peterson with this money that you've found.

Do you now get where we were coming from in the Dak debate?

The way the Cowboys mange the cap is have built in salary restructures to create additional cap space. They only give out short term fa deals to give them cap flexibility. Under Stephen Jones, the front office usually signs any in-house player they want back, if they decide a player isn't apart of their long-term plans, a short-term bridge fa is signed while they draft and develop his replacement. As of right now, none of those 4 fa's are scheduled to break the bank, they may decide a player is apart of their long-term plans or even perhaps resign them as short-term bridge players. I believe they resigned Brown, to protect themselves for so many fa's next season.
 

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I'm looking forward to as much of the Garrett stench on this roster being gone as soon as reasonably possible.

I dont want any more than 10 Garrett guys left headed into 2022.
 

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Very important year for the incumbent secondary players from the prior regime under Garrett/Marinelli. The majority are scheduled to become unrestricted fa's:

-Awuzie
-J. Lewis
-X Woods

-HaHa (former player with MM Ties)

There isn't much depth behind these players, especially at safety. Might have little choice but to at least resign 1:

-Awuzie is the best player out of the three. Has been a day 1 quality starting CB since he was drafted. There has been some talk of him playing some safety in the nickel to play more to his strengths.

-Lewis has been more of a dime CB since he was drafted. Has shown strong ball skills, but has struggled at times in coverage.

-X Woods has certainly outplayed his draft status as a former 6th rd pick. Has shown strong coverage abilities, but inconsistent as a tackler. Kind of like M Collins, many project him to become that breakout player, but it just wasn't happened as of yet.
Impossible to project until we see them in the new scheme and possibly at new positions (Awuzie).

Donovan Wilson was the defensive star of the preseason and then never played during the season.

The Cowboys hired his college position coach to coach Safeties.

The new scheme might be a good fit for Woods. Nolan has used a base 2-deep Safety alignment in the past.
- That's good for a player that might not have elite range at FS but does not have the size to play as a full time in the box SS.

Awuzie could make a dramatic improvement this season.
- Even just staying at outside CB, he could be much better due to the new scheme.
- Having him cover the slot WR when facing 3 WR sets could really allow him to shine because that's where he was great in college.
- Playing him as one of the 2-deep Safeties is also a good fit for him.
- Safeties in 2-deep get matched up in CB type situations more often than a single-high FS or in the box SS.

Lewis: Will he even play in 2020?
 

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It just depends. If Awuzie blows up at corner and can command a 15+mil deal then they probably wave him goodbye and best of luck.
I can't see Lewis staying here unless Harris gives him a chance and he delivers.

Not sure about Woods. Versatile and decent at safety. Wouldn't be shocked if he got signed to a good deal for the team.

Possible tag on Chido.

He’s our best corner.
 

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The way the Cowboys mange the cap is have built in salary restructures to create additional cap space. They only give out short term fa deals to give them cap flexibility. Under Stephen Jones, the front office usually signs any in-house player they want back, if they decide a player isn't apart of their long-term plans, a short-term bridge fa is signed while they draft and develop his replacement. As of right now, none of those 4 fa's are scheduled to break the bank, they may decide a player is apart of their long-term plans or even perhaps resign them as short-term bridge players. I believe they resigned Brown, to protect themselves for so many fa's next season.

The basis of this post is how every team attempts to construct its roster.

The highlighted sentence is the reason for wanting Dak to accept a LONGER not shorter deal.
 

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New Coaches so its hard to tell when we really do not know how are DBs are going to be utilized.
 

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Awuzie.
Woods.

im afraid Lewis will wanna leave...hope not.
 

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Very important year for the incumbent secondary players from the prior regime under Garrett/Marinelli. The majority are scheduled to become unrestricted fa's:

-Awuzie
-J. Lewis
-X Woods

-HaHa (former player with MM Ties)

There isn't much depth behind these players, especially at safety. Might have little choice but to at least resign 1:

-Awuzie is the best player out of the three. Has been a day 1 quality starting CB since he was drafted. There has been some talk of him playing some safety in the nickel to play more to his strengths.

-Lewis has been more of a dime CB since he was drafted. Has shown strong ball skills, but has struggled at times in coverage.

-X Woods has certainly outplayed his draft status as a former 6th rd pick. Has shown strong coverage abilities, but inconsistent as a tackler. Kind of like M Collins, many project him to become that breakout player, but it just wasn't happened as of yet.

I don't think Lewis resigns. Probably feels underappreciated here and didn't get a fair chance. Probably cant wait to get outta here. And even if he has a good year he will probably be more pissed.

I don't think they resign woods either. He probably has been just good enough to attract other offers but definitely not good enough to warrant any kind of investment for us.

Awuzie I don't think resigns either. None of these guy has really earned it and we can simply go into the draft from this years crop or next years and get someone for cheaper that may do a better job.

Now we could find out that the previous coaching staff was just bad and these guy may shine this year.
 

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Lewis: Will he even play in 2020?

Lewis is the biggest question mark on the team going into training camp. He could end up as our best CB or the 4th CB only playing in Dime. Definitely a story to watch in Training Camp.
 

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I don't think Lewis resigns. Probably feels underappreciated here and didn't get a fair chance. Probably cant wait to get outta here. And even if he has a good year he will probably be more pissed.

I don't think they resign woods either. He probably has been just good enough to attract other offers but definitely not good enough to warrant any kind of investment for us.

Awuzie I don't think resigns either. None of these guy has really earned it and we can simply go into the draft from this years crop or next years and get someone for cheaper that may do a better job.

Now we could find out that the previous coaching staff was just bad and these guy may shine this year.

In your scenario not resigning anyone, what's your plan with the starting safeties? Corner opposite Diggs and nickel CB?
 

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The basis of this post is how every team attempts to construct its roster.

The highlighted sentence is the reason for wanting Dak to accept a LONGER not shorter deal.

I don't disagree, but as it is right now, having him playing on the franchise tag is the worst case scenario for the team's cap as they cannot restructure in any way
 

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Impossible to project until we see them in the new scheme and possibly at new positions (Awuzie).

Donovan Wilson was the defensive star of the preseason and then never played during the season.

The Cowboys hired his college position coach to coach Safeties.

The new scheme might be a good fit for Woods. Nolan has used a base 2-deep Safety alignment in the past.
- That's good for a player that might not have elite range at FS but does not have the size to play as a full time in the box SS.

Awuzie could make a dramatic improvement this season.
- Even just staying at outside CB, he could be much better due to the new scheme.
- Having him cover the slot WR when facing 3 WR sets could really allow him to shine because that's where he was great in college.
- Playing him as one of the 2-deep Safeties is also a good fit for him.
- Safeties in 2-deep get matched up in CB type situations more often than a single-high FS or in the box SS.

Lewis: Will he even play in 2020?

-The main reason for this post to to show that the front office may need to overhaul almost the entire secondary.
-Can any current player become apart of the team's long-term future?
-Do they bring anybody back as a bridge type starter to develop their replacement?
-It's unlikely to overturn almost the entire secondary in one off-season
-Some fans want the Cowboys to pursue a Jamal Adams trade, this would be giving up 2 premium picks in next year's draft and handing out a market setting contract. How is that possible with little draft capital and minimal cap flexibility?
 

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-The main reason for this post to to show that the front office may need to overhaul almost the entire secondary.
-Can any current player become apart of the team's long-term future?
-Do they bring anybody back as a bridge type starter to develop their replacement?
-It's unlikely to overturn almost the entire secondary in one off-season
-Some fans want the Cowboys to pursue a Jamal Adams trade, this would be giving up 2 premium picks in next year's draft and handing out a market setting contract. How is that possible with little draft capital and minimal cap flexibility?
2021 Starters
CB
Diggs
Brown
Robinson

Safety
Awuzie
Wilson
 

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2021 Starters
CB
Diggs
Brown
Robinson

Safety
Awuzie
Wilson

Of coarse, this yr has to play out, unexpected things do happen, but early on it's looking like the front office is going to have prioritize the secondary next off-season. Hopefully, some of our younger prospects make the next step and can ascend to become starters in 2021.
 
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