Who do you think is the Cowboys best player

[Doomsday]

TO on offense, Roy on defense. Overall To, he is the most physically gifted player in the league.

 

[pancakeman]

In my estimation:

All-Pro level players (top 10% in their positions in the league)
#1 Terrell Owens
#2 TNew
#3 Roy Williams

Pro-Bowl level players (top 25% in their positions)
#4 Jason Witten
#5 Terry Glenn

Good starterrs:
#6 DeMarcus Ware
#7 Drew Bledsoe
#8 Anthony Henry
#9 Julius Jones
#10 Flozell Adams

Just to show how much turnover there is these days (or lack of talent there was on the roster when BP inherited it) only Flo and RoyW were with the team when BP started in 2002 four years ago.

Good post. Vanderjagt has to be in the second group, if not in the first.
Just out of curiosity: where would Glover and Key fit if they were still Cowboys?

 

[cc cowboy]

Drew Henson is the best Cowboy currently playing.

 

[Hailmary]

TNew shuts down his half of the field. Electric on PRs when given the chance.

Roy, although not the most consistent player and sometimes a liability on coverage, he has probably the most intangibles on the team....intimidation.

Vanderjagt...it's been so long since we had a good kicker. He'll be a difference maker.

TO just elevated our entire O. Not only is he one of the tops in his position, but b/c of him, Glenn will see more single coverages and the D won't stack up against the run helping JuJo find more running lanes. Should also help out Witten since the safety help will be going to our WRs and he'll be matched up mostly w/ LBs.

 

[DallasDomination]

I know this might bother people but How can Roy williams be our best player? He's not even close to being our best player. Roy Williams is great but come on There is other players that performed much better than him last year. Roy williams is a liability at Coverage and sometimes misses TAckles becaue he's going for the big hit instead of the WRap around tackle, Not to mention his overrated probowl selection in 04. Terrance Newman would be my #1 Choice, I think he is the best CORNer in the League( my humble Opinion), Followed by Terrell OWens.

 

[Future]

I know this might bother people but How can Roy williams be our best player? He's not even close to being our best player. Roy Williams is great but come on There is other players that performed much better than him last year. Roy williams is a liability at Coverage and sometimes misses TAckles becaue he's going for the big hit instead of the WRap around tackle, Not to mention his overrated probowl selection in 04. Terrance Newman would be my #1 Choice, I think he is the best CORNer in the League( my humble Opinion), Followed by Terrell OWens.

hes a liability in coverage ill give you that, but its because hes an SS and plays out of position when forced to cover. and name one time that he has ever missed a tackle...i cant think of one

ex: last year vs. philly he made a tackle on brian westbrook in the middle of nowhere going right at the legs, not a big hit but a great play

 

[BeWare94]

Who do you think is the Cowboys best player?

1. Roy Williams

2. Terence Newman

3. DeMarcus Ware

4. Terrell Owens

5. Jason Witten

6. Mike Vanderjagt

7. Drew Bledsoe

8. Terry Glenn

Terrell Owens hands down is the best player on our team. Look at what he's done statistically and he is on the short list of the best players at his position. Roy Williams might be the most marketable player we had until Owens showed up but Roy Williams is as much a liability in coverage as he was his rookie year. As a receiver there is nothing that Owens cannot do.

 

[BeWare94]

No doubt Terrel Owens. All around, Roy Williams.

Wouldn't 'all-around' for a safety like Roy Williams include deep coverage? I seem to remember a Washington game on Monday night where he singlehandedly lost a thirteen point lead in like two minutes. Roy Williams flat out cannot cover. What can't Terrell Owens do as a receiver? Go over the middle? Check. Get deep? Check. Beat the Jam? Check. Block downfield? Check.

 

[Jay9508]

roy is the best, but newman isn't far behind him

 

[Jay9508]

Wouldn't 'all-around' for a safety like Roy Williams include deep coverage? I seem to remember a Washington game on Monday night where he singlehandedly lost a thirteen point lead in like two minutes. Roy Williams flat out cannot cover. What can't Terrell Owens do as a receiver? Go over the middle? Check. Get deep? Check. Beat the Jam? Check. Block downfield? Check.

must we go through this again, that was glenn's man

 

[BeWare94]

must we go through this again, that was glenn's man

Whatever. If that's what you have to tell yourself so that you can sleep at night, fine. However when the safety stays behind the corner he is generally responsible for deep third/deep half of the field in the case that the cornerback gets beat. He is the "safety valve" when the corner loses his matchup with the receiver. A safety that could cover like Brian Dawkins, Rodney Harrison, John Lynch, Ed Reed or Troy Polamalu etc. would have gotten a sufficient drop to cover his zone and when Santana Moss got past Aaron Glenn and caught the ball they would have laid his a** out. Roy Williams makes plays near the LOS but not plays in coverage.

 

[Eskimo]

Good post. Vanderjagt has to be in the second group, if not in the first.
Just out of curiosity: where would Glover and Key fit if they were still Cowboys?

It is hard to comment on Glover at this point because he was still Pro Bowl level in 2004 playing in the 4-3 but he was not the same player in the 3-4 this past year even though he got the invite again. I suspect he has declined to merely the good starter range now. He will do better in a defense that let's him get up the field and utilize his quickness while avoiding having to deal with double teams. I think he would be best utilized as a pass rush specialist at this stage of his career - his productivity would likely be higher in fewer snaps.

As for Key, I really believe he has been in some degree of decline over the past 3 years which will become more obvious next year. His lack of separation skills combined with a case of the dropsies with 3 fumbles last year is somewhat ominous to me. In 2004 he was definitely in the the good starter range but I do believe he has now dropped a notch below - call him a poor #1 WR or a slightly above average #2 WR. I think we were wise not to give him the extension he requested as he will prove not to be worth it.

 

[StanleySpadowski]

Whatever. If that's what you have to tell yourself so that you can sleep at night, fine. However when the safety stays behind the corner he is generally responsible for deep third/deep half of the field in the case that the cornerback gets beat. He is the "safety valve" when the corner loses his matchup with the receiver. A safety that could cover like Brian Dawkins, Rodney Harrison, John Lynch, Ed Reed or Troy Polamalu etc. would have gotten a sufficient drop to cover his zone and when Santana Moss got past Aaron Glenn and caught the ball they would have laid his a** out. Roy Williams makes plays near the LOS but not plays in coverage.

Williams gave up less yardage and fewer TDs last season per game than all of the "cover" safeties that you mentioned, but don't let facts stand in the way of an uninformed opinion.

 

[littlewebs]

Williams gave up less yardage and fewer TDs last season per game than all of the "cover" safeties that you mentioned, but don't let facts stand in the way of an uninformed opinion.

People bash on Roy Williams' cover skills all the time, and they use the same example every single time. It usually goes something like this: "Roy got burned twice in that Washington game by Santana Moss. He sucks in coverage." OH MY!!!! He got burned on TWO plays in 15 games last year. CLEARLY he sucks. Yank him from the game. Worthless coverage player

All of last year those are the only two times I can remember him getting beat deep, but the haters just continue to bring up those 2 plays as the basis of their argument. He also missed one tackle against T. Gonzo in the Chiefs game, so that makes 3 bad plays in 15 games (sat out against Rams), or one flub per 5 games.

Newman is excellent as well, only the Cooley play stands out to me as a screw-up. But that game I remember thinking "Every player on the entire team sucks today!"

 

[RealityWynn]

Newman!!

TO vs Newman in practice will be fun to watch.

Thats one reason why I am glad that training camp is in Oxnard this year..
:laugh2:

 

[GoodOleDays]

terrel owens is our best player, period.

 

[StanleySpadowski]

People bash on Roy Williams' cover skills all the time, and they use the same example every single time. It usually goes something like this: "Roy got burned twice in that Washington game by Santana Moss. He sucks in coverage." OH MY!!!! He got burned on TWO plays in 15 games last year. CLEARLY he sucks. Yank him from the game. Worthless coverage player

All of last year those are the only two times I can remember him getting beat deep, but the haters just continue to bring up those 2 plays as the basis of their argument. He also missed one tackle against T. Gonzo in the Chiefs game, so that makes 3 bad plays in 15 games (sat out against Rams), or one flub per 5 games.

Newman is excellent as well, only the Cooley play stands out to me as a screw-up. But that game I remember thinking "Every player on the entire team sucks today!"

Williams also blew a coverage on Shockey allowing a TD among other poor plays but the "liability in coverage" schtick is getting old.

 

[SuspectCorner]

TO... (gap)... T New... (gap)... roy will, witten, flo and vanderjerk... (gap) ....rest of the team.

 

[littlewebs]

Williams also blew a coverage on Shockey allowing a TD among other poor plays but the "liability in coverage" schtick is getting old.

Ah yes I forgot about that one. But wasn't it partially because NYG was in the hurry-up and he was trying to make sure everyone was in the right spot? Still his fault, but not so much a blown coverage as being in the wrong place at the snap and never having a chance.

 

[Seven]

Newman! You magnificent bastid!!

He was outstanding last year and did some serious van-damage in the nickel as well.