Who do you think is the main challenger to the Cowboys in the NFC East?

[dmq]

How can you phrase it, " who will challenge us for the NFC East..." when we didn't win the NFC East. I for one like our chances, but until we prove ourselves, we should be looking at it from a different point of view. Like, "did we improve ourselves enough to overtake....." This whole NFC East is up in the air. I like what we bring to the table, but for all we know , we fall flat right on Rivera's bad back..... Lets hope it is healed and Kosier is an unknown future Pro-bowler, but who knows....

 

[apickmans]

ok i was just teasing(i was exaggerating) the guy who posted talking about the skins receivers when i said all that, but keep in mind TO has already been a cancer while Taylor has been found guilty of nothing. So you cant really compare the 2.

 

[bobbie brewskie]

Sure we do....but every team does. He's a great back, but he's never gone off against us like Barber has. We gameplan to stop that guy, but he always seems to kill us.



I think Moss is a very good WR, but "amazing"? I don't think he's amazing. Last year was his first really good year. I want to see him do it again....with every defense keying on him....If he can do it again, then he's a GREAT player.



I guess we can compare safeties this way:

Roy Williams is much better than Archuletta
Sean Taylor is much better than Coleman



I've never been impressed with Carter....I can remember when he was drafted thinking he was overrated.



Let's do the same exercise again....

TO is better than Moss
Glenn...you're right about him having some of the best hands in the NFL...remember Baldinger two years ago saying, "What a FREAKIN' catch!" when Glenn caught that pass vs Detroit?

Anyway...Glenn is better than Lloyd

Randel El is better than Crayton

i can agree with all of that . . . i always thought carter was a great leader though, he wasnt an amazing player but atleast he did something that few can do.

 

[Bizwah]

QB- agreed

RB- Too close to call between Washington and NY

Very close...But Barber is better...MUCH better all-around. He's a great blocker, receiver, and not far behind as a runner.

Barber stinkin' scares me everytime we play the Giants.

WR- Are you Crazy?!?!?!?!
Dallas
Washington
NYG
Philly
Thats the order, and its even a toss up Between Dallas and Washington

Are you crazy?

The Giants have Toomer (who's admittedly winding down but still very good), Burress (very tough), Moss, and that one dude that's a great returner.

And please.....No even toss up at all with Dallas and Washington. You guys greatly overrate your guys. Moss had ONE great season. ONE! The NFL is full of guys that have had ONE great season. Now, he could've broken out, or merely had a career year.

Owens is better than Moss
Glenn is better than Randel El
Ranel El is better than Crayton, although Crayton's numbers were comparable to El's last year.

TE-
Dallas
NYG
Washington
Philly

OL- Agreed

DL- Philly would be last in my book. I think that Dallas and Wahington again are too close to call.

This is a hard one. Philly has a nice DL. Howard, Kearse, Walker, and now Bunkley.....The Giants have the best bookends in the NFL...easily. I think you may have a point about our DLs....ours is very, very young.

LB- Agreed

Secondary-Too Closeto call between the First 3... But i would say...

Washington
Dallas
Philly
NYG[/QUOTE]

I don't think you all have the best secondary. Ours is better than yours.
Newman better than Springs
Henry better than Rogers
Williams better than Archuletta
Taylor is better than Coleman/Watkins/Davis

Glenn is a better 3rd CB than yours too.

 

[rdsknsbaby]

And you're a football fan?

A Skins fan?

yup......

 

[TwoSteppinJJ]

Uh-Oh....

Lets see this happen! Ding Ding.

Commander Fans Fight between eachother on a Cowboys Board!!!! :fight: (tHINK of that as a Commanders Logo)

Now FIGHT!!!

 

[bobbie brewskie]

QB- agreed

RB- Too close to call between Washington and NY

WR- Are you Crazy?!?!?!?!
Dallas
Washington
NYG
Philly
Thats the order, and its even a toss up Between Dallas and Washington

TE-
Dallas
NYG
Washington
Philly

OL- Agreed

DL- Philly would be last in my book. I think that Dallas and Wahington again are too close to call.

LB- Agreed

Secondary-Too Closeto call between the First 3... But i would say...

Washington
Dallas
Philly
NYG

RB - NYG over Washington because Tiki doesnt have as good surrounding talent and he is just flat out better than Portis nad he takes 376 carries and doesnt die at the end of the season when Portis takes 352 and dies by week 13 or 14. and also i say Westbrook wins out over JJ because he stays healthy, but JJ has the potential to be better than him.

WR - its not a toss up between Dallas and Washington because washington doesnt have a #2 WR, instead they have 3 #3 WRs, like said above:
TO > Moss
Glenn > Lloyd
Crayton < El

TE - Shockey is way over-rated and Cooley puts up = or better #s, shockey is only known as a good TE from his reputation . . . i say him and Cooley are about even and after that Washington wins
Dallas
Washington
NYG
Philthy

Secondary - once again Dallas is better than Washington but other than that i agree, like said before:
Archuleta <<<< Williams
Taylor <<<< Davis or Coleman

at CB we have what could be the best CB in the league (Newman) and Henry who until his groin injury was a top5 or 10 CB in the league, with Glenn at #3 (one of the best NB in the league)

sorry but Washingtons secondary doesnt exactly compare to Dallas'

 

[TwoSteppinJJ]

Yeah I agree with you bobbie, I just didnt feel like posting some monster in depth post.

 

[RiggoForever]

RB - NYG over Washington because Tiki doesnt have as good surrounding talent and he is just flat out better than Portis nad he takes 376 carries and doesnt die at the end of the season when Portis takes 352 and dies by week 13 or 14. and also i say Westbrook wins out over JJ because he stays healthy, but JJ has the potential to be better than him.

Portis finished the regular season with 5 straight 100 yard games, including 3 straight against NFC East opponents in weeks 15, 16, and 17.

 

[RiggoForever]

Thats good but I dont think thats why snyder traded the best CB in the league for him. Inter-division games you need your stars to have GREAT games in my opinion. But Nonetheless that is a good game.

Its simple...we were very soft at RB. Portis can pound the ball, which Gibbs likes. Bailey was disgruntled before Gibbs came and wanted out, and Gibbs always does his best to get rid of players who don't want to be in DC (see Arrington).

That's why I think it wouldn't be a bad idea for the Cowboys to trade Ellis if they can get decent compensation for him.

 

[bobbie brewskie]

Portis finished the regular season with 5 straight 100 yard games, including 3 straight against NFC East opponents in weeks 15, 16, and 17.

ok you win, still tiki took 24 more carries than portis and pounded the ball all-season long, opening up games for his team. i may be wrong about portis not lasting til the end, but as a skins fan doesnt he look a lot more "rattled" near the end of the season?

 

[RiggoForever]

ok you win, still tiki took 24 more carries than portis and pounded the ball all-season long, opening up games for his team. i may be wrong about portis not lasting til the end, but as a skins fan doesnt he look a lot more "rattled" near the end of the season?

Well Portis was banged up in the Philly game, and got a stinger in the game against Tampa. Portis did get tired towards the end of the 2004 season because he was used to about 250 carries a season in Denver...but last year he was better at the end of the season then the year before.

Tiki Barber was a machine this past season, but even he didn't do much against Carolina in the playoffs, a team that allowed 194 yards to Julius Jones.

I'm not sure Barber will be able to duplicate a 1800 yard season though, that's alot to ask of an RB over 30.

 

[bobbie brewskie]

Tiki Barber was a machine this past season, but even he didn't do much against Carolina in the playoffs, a team that allowed 194 yards to Julius Jones.

I'm not sure Barber will be able to duplicate a 1800 yard season though, that's alot to ask of an RB over 30.

Carolina is a tough defense and they dont really allow all to many yards to any player. Julius Jones has many breakout games and to me is quite inconsistant. yes, he always has a solid amount of yards (75 yards w/ MBIII taking a bit away) but i mean inconsistant - 1 week against a crap team he has 70 yards and then the next, against one of the best defenses he has 150 yards . . . neways my point is JJ pulls weird games, usually in the clutch or during "big games".

Barber no way will have 1700+ yards again, the guy is amazing but like you said is on the wrong side of 30 and has been punished throughout his career, Eli is getting a huge load dropped on his shoulders from Tiki. but sinc we are judging from last season i still have Tiki above Clinton.

 

[Eddie]

Wow! Amazing graphics from Madden 2001 on the PS2.

 

[Doomsday101]

I think every team in the NFC East has a legit chance to win the division.

 

[baj1dallas]

we also picked up the blitz very well

iirc Washington didn't blitz hardly any in that first game last year...I remember us being baffled but thankful.

 

[redskins1]

baj1dallas,your right we called off the doggs early cause the blitz wasnt working,but the skins d still held ya to 13 pts...point being blitz or no blitz you will struggle against the skins d....

 

[Hostile]

baj1dallas,your right we called off the doggs early cause the blitz wasnt working,but the skins d still held ya to 13 pts...point being blitz or no blitz you will struggle against the skins d....

Struggled in 2005 is fair to say. Will struggle again in 2006 isn't. You have no idea at this point about injuries or chemistry for either team. Pure speculation at this point, no basis in fact.

 

[Cowchips]

I'll try to rate the units here:

QB:
Philly
NYG
Dallas
Washington

Dallas and NYG have the best QB situation. Both QB's produced pretty well last season. Bledsoe will likely improve with better protection and TO. Manning should improve through maturity.

Most likely McNabb and Brunnell will not complete the season uninjured. Brunnell is basically equal to Bledsoe or Manning when healthy but very injury prone. McNabb is better but with his typical injury problems and wr's that suck, he'll be below average.

 

[redskins1]

Hostile...with all due respect,the skins d is so much more aggressive and plays with so much more energy and focus then your cowboys defense,and dont kid yourself..that will not change..and again,blitz or no blitz skins d can stop the cowboys offense...Greg williams is the difference!!!!