Who do you think is the main challenger to the Cowboys in the NFC East?

jterrell said:
You pick a position where Dallas isn't as deep or deeper.

TE, DE, CB are not even close.

The only position I can think of would be the OL. And the Skins aren't really deeper there.....they are better there.

I think the only areas that the Skins beat us in are the OL and RB. I think we out-class them in every other area.
 
The Commanders will be your biggest competitor.

Portis in the backfield. (one of the best in the league)
Moss, Randel El, Lloyd, AND Patten lined up against any D will open up the field for Portis.
Oh and dont forget Cooley running through the middle. and Fauria Blocking... i mean c'mon imagine that Offense... now I just hope that our O-line can hold up.

I'm not too worried about Brunell going down because i honestly believe that Campbell can take over, and take over well.

Our D will be very scary with Archuletta and Taylor waiting for guys to come up the middle, which will take alot off of Springs, Rogers, and Morton. our D-line when healthy can run with the best, especially now (assuming Carter gels) with our new pass rushers. i think that the Commanders will be the team to beat in the NFCE.
 
RiggoForever said:
Nah if you win, I'll take my lumps and give you credit. I've been a fan of this team through the highs and the lows.

Are you going to the game at Texas Stadium this year?

Right......

Not ONE of you Commander fans had the guts to show up on our boards until after you lucked into a victory in September of last year.

Now you infest our boards.

If we beat you this year I sincerely hope you do stick around. You will have earned the respect of a lot of people here.
 
rdsknsbaby said:
Moss, Randel El, Lloyd, AND Patten lined up against any D will open up the field for Portis.

Lloyd is crap, patten is a castoff, randle el isnt a receiver, and Moss is good. That WR core isnt anything to bragg about.
 
rdsknsbaby said:
The Commanders will be your biggest competitor.

Portis in the backfield. (one of the best in the league)
Moss, Randel El, Lloyd, AND Patten lined up against any D will open up the field for Portis.
Oh and dont forget Cooley running through the middle. and Fauria Blocking... i mean c'mon imagine that Offense... now I just hope that our O-line can hold up.

I'm not too worried about Brunell going down because i honestly believe that Campbell can take over, and take over well.

Our D will be very scary with Archuletta and Taylor waiting for guys to come up the middle, which will take alot off of Springs, Rogers, and Morton. our D-line when healthy can run with the best, especially now (assuming Carter gels) with our new pass rushers. i think that the Commanders will be the team to beat in the NFCE.

Ok, one problem with your offense...

You have your QB and OL of course ---- 6 players
You mentioned holes opened up for Portis -- 1 player
Your 4 WRs ------ 4 players
Don't forget Cooley and "Superman" Fauria -- 2 players


I expect you to be able to add all that. 13 players. Good luck tricking the refs into that...

Your defense will be good assuming that Sean Taylor doesn't spend 40 something years with his new best friend, Bubba.
 
DragonCowboy said:
Ok, one problem with your offense...

You have your QB and OL of course ---- 6 players
You mentioned holes opened up for Portis -- 1 player
Your 4 WRs ------ 4 players
Don't forget Cooley and "Superman" Fauria -- 2 players


I expect you to be able to add all that. 13 players. Good luck tricking the refs into that...

Your defense will be good assuming that Sean Taylor doesn't spend 40 something years with his new best friend, Bubba.

i never said that they would be out on the field all at one time. i was just naming the guys on the offense that can do some damage. and do you HONESTLY think that ST is going to jail? Be honest.
 
DragonCowboy said:
Ok, one problem with your offense...

You have your QB and OL of course ---- 6 players
You mentioned holes opened up for Portis -- 1 player
Your 4 WRs ------ 4 players
Don't forget Cooley and "Superman" Fauria -- 2 players


I expect you to be able to add all that. 13 players. Good luck tricking the refs into that...

Your defense will be good assuming that Sean Taylor doesn't spend 40 something years with his new best friend, Bubba.

I'm pretty sure he didnt mean using them all at one time. Sean taylor is not going to go to jail, im sure most of you believe he wont either, as much as it pains you to know it.
 
rdsknsbaby said:
The Commanders will be your biggest competitor.

Portis in the backfield. (one of the best in the league)

True....but he's never really done well against us. Not even in game two last year.

Moss, Randel El, Lloyd, AND Patten lined up against any D will open up the field for Portis.

Again, this trio doesn't really scare me. Moss is dangerous, but the other guys really are rather average. Newman, Henry, and Glenn are more than a match for them.

Oh and dont forget Cooley running through the middle. and Fauria Blocking... i mean c'mon imagine that Offense... now I just hope that our O-line can hold up.

I think Skins fans greatly overrate Cooley. He's a nice player, but he's not a guy you have to gameplan for. Ignore him (as we did in game two) and he'll beat you.....he's nothing special.....Your offense will be improved....but not dominating.

I'm not too worried about Brunell going down because i honestly believe that Campbell can take over, and take over well.

I like Brunell....always have. He's a great guy. But he's 37. I'm sure the rest of the NFC East is licking their chops over Campbell. Now, I dont' think we're any better at QB. Although, Romo is highly thought of in NFL circles.

Our D will be very scary with Archuletta and Taylor waiting for guys to come up the middle, which will take alot off of Springs, Rogers, and Morton. our D-line when healthy can run with the best, especially now (assuming Carter gels) with our new pass rushers. i think that the Commanders will be the team to beat in the NFCE.

I like Taylor as a player....he's not much of a person. Hopefully, he'll grow up. Taylor is a great safety. But Archuletta? He's merely average. He is better than Davis and Coleman...although Coleman may be better in coverage.

You DL doesn't scare anyone. Without blitzing you can't even sniff the QB. Skins fans are acting as if Carter is the second coming. He's not.....He's merely an average end. He had 10+ sacks in one season, but he's fallen off the map in the others. He's too light to stop the run, so Flo should blow him away.

The best thing your defense has going for it is the scheme. Aside from Washington at LB and Taylor at safety, there's not a whole lot of talent.
 
TwoSteppinJJ said:
I know you just said, He has the potential to become a top 5 qb in the nfl and I find that ****ING HILLARIOUS!

You want proof that comment is some proof. Not quite god like but close enough.
Like I said, I am probably one of his most ardent supporters.

Top 5 in the NFL does not equal God-like status. Especially when I qualify it as "potentially." In other words, he's not there yet.

Translation = misfire. Your attempt to stereotype me and my fellow fans who have some hope in this kid missed the mark. Rather than put up some proof of your claim, you backed off. Typical.
 
I knew from day one or wait day 2 that shawna taylor wouldnt serve a minute of jail time.

Hey you can you skins fans see my sig picture? lol yes I know im great with photoshop.
 
TwoSteppinJJ said:
Lloyd is crap, patten is a castoff, randle el isnt a receiver, and Moss is good. That WR core isnt anything to bragg about.

hmm lemme try this out.....

Owens is a cancer, Glenn is old and has alligator arms, oh and crayton isnt a receiver. I like that one. I guuuuuueeeesss TO can have his good days, but that WR core isnt anything to brag about.
 
apickmans said:
hmm lemme try this out.....

Owens is a cancer, Glenn is old and has alligator arms, oh and crayton isnt a receiver. I like that one. I guuuuuueeeesss TO can have his good days, but that WR core isnt anything to brag about.
I got a buck says the NFL media will rate Dallas as a top 5 WR corps (not core).
 
rdsknsbaby said:
i never said that they would be out on the field all at one time. i was just naming the guys on the offense that can do some damage. and do you HONESTLY think that ST is going to jail? Be honest.

apickmans said:
I'm pretty sure he didnt mean using them all at one time. Sean taylor is not going to go to jail, im sure most of you believe he wont either, as much as it pains you to know it.

Hehe, its really fun getting you guys mad. Yes, I know you meant they wouldn't be on the field all the time.

Sean Taylor won't go to jail. Those dirtbags who stole his ATV's deserved to get shot anyway.
 
TwoSteppinJJ said:
I think the skins have better Defensive Tackles as well.

This is true....I like their DTs...especially in a 4-3. It's really hard to compare our two teams defenses aside from the secondaries.

As a whole, I think our DL is better.....adding in all DL. We have talent and youth. Canty, Spears, Hatcher, Ratliff, Johnson, and Stanley make up a nice nucleus.
 
jterrell said:
You pick a position where Dallas isn't as deep or deeper.

TE, DE, CB are not even close.

QB: I'll say Washington...everybody behind Brunell and Bledsoe is unproven, but Collins is a veteran and has experience in Al Saunders offense. Campbell won't be used unless he wins the 2nd spot in camp.

RB: Washington (We use 3 in our rotation, Betts has speed and has returned kickoffs for TDs, and is a pass catching threat coming out of the backfield.

WR: Washington (4 proven receivers in Moss, Lloyd, Randle El, and Patten). Cowboys only have 2 legitimate threats, though Crayton may prove himself this year if he can avoid injury.

TE: Dallas...I'll give Witten/Fasano/Hannam an edge over Cooley/Fauria/Johnson

OL: Even....after the starters both teams will see a dropoff in talent. The Commanders probably a bigger dropoff, just because our OL has been together longer

DE: Commanders have Carter/Daniels/Wynn/Evans depending on whether its a running or passing situation. Dallas has Spears/Canty/Ellis/Hatcher. I'll say even.

DT: I'll say N/A because the 3-4 only has one interior lineman.

LB: Dallas is deeper with Ware/Ayodele/James/Carpenter and Burnett/Shanle etc being able backups. Skins have great players in Marshall and Washington, but have a training camp battle with McIntosh and a couple other players for the WLB position. The WLB position won't be handed to McIntosh.

DB: I'll give the edge to Dallas in the secondary. Glenn is an able 3rd CB. I haven't seen enough of Wright to say the same for the Skins. I also think Watkins is going to be a good player for Dallas eventually...even if he's not the starting FS this year.
 
Hostile said:
I got a buck says the NFL media will rate Dallas as a top 5WR corps (not core).

ok youre on heh. I know its Corps...brain fart on my part.
 
apickmans said:
hmm lemme try this out.....

Owens is a cancer, Glenn is old and has alligator arms, oh and crayton isnt a receiver. I like that one. I guuuuuueeeesss TO can have his good days, but that WR core isnt anything to brag about.


Does anyone have a TIVO of the second 2004 game?
 
our WR corps in nothing to brag about, but it is a helluva upgrade from Moss, Patten, Thrash, and Jacobs.
 
Bizwah said:
True....but he's never really done well against us. Not even in game two last year.
the only reason he doesnt do well against us is because we gameplan and put 8 men in the box against him and that is why their other weapons beat us, its just like BP says, "you can shut-down any player in the league but you have to account for the sacrifice you are giving up elsewhere" or something to that extent, point being that you can shut down any player in exchange that somebody else does.

Again, this trio doesn't really scare me. Moss is dangerous, but the other guys really are rather average. Newman, Henry, and Glenn are more than a match for them.
the trio is a bunch of #3 WRs, and i agree they are not scary. Moss is amazing while the other 3 will not fair all to well against henry and glenn . . .

I think Skins fans greatly overrate Cooley. He's a nice player, but he's not a guy you have to gameplan for. Ignore him (as we did in game two) and he'll beat you.....he's nothing special.....Your offense will be improved....but not dominating.
agreed. the guy puts up numbers and what not but really he isnt a player that you need to worry about all to much.

I like Brunell....always have. He's a great guy. But he's 37. I'm sure the rest of the NFC East is licking their chops over Campbell. Now, I dont' think we're any better at QB. Although, Romo is highly thought of in NFL circles.
. . .

I like Taylor as a player....he's not much of a person. Hopefully, he'll grow up. Taylor is a great safety. But Archuletta? He's merely average. He is better than Davis and Coleman...although Coleman may be better in coverage.
Archuleta is barely better than Coleman. they play different positions but compare it like this:
Archuleta vs. run < Coleman vs. Pass
Archuleta vs. pass > Coleman vs. run

You DL doesn't scare anyone. Without blitzing you can't even sniff the QB. Skins fans are acting as if Carter is the second coming. He's not.....He's merely an average end. He had 10+ sacks in one season, but he's fallen off the map in the others. He's too light to stop the run, so Flo should blow him away.
Carter is an upgrade, but in SF he didnt do all to much and he has only played 2 16 game seasons in his 6 year career.

The best thing your defense has going for it is the scheme. Aside from Washington at LB and Taylor at safety, there's not a whole lot of talent.

haha ok apicksmans, saying TO is a cancer is like saying ST is already in prison for 40 years . . . TO is possibly the best WR in the NFL, he just has off the field issues. glenn has alligator arms? i think he has better hands that any player on the Commanders roster, but i guess you think just because glenn is fast that he cant catch, your wrong, the guy has pretty damn good hands. and crayton isnt a WR? wow, ok . . . so Crayton who is on the same level as Randle El, Lloyd and Patten isnt a WR, then i guess none of them are either . . .
 

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