Who here likes NFL parity???

[FuzzyLumpkins]

I know that it doesn't work like that. I'm saying that Jones has campaigned to change that provision in the next CBA--for lack of phrasing it better.

i havent heard that. that is interesting if you heard that riight though.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Freeney's one player. We disagree on a Bills/Patriots matchup. We had a coach once who preached that speed kills. That would be Buffalo's advantage.

im not saying that those bills teams wouldnt have some success but i just dont see how that Bills oline could handle the pats front 7. Wilfork and Seymour would dominate those matchups.

 

[Pats Fan]

Geez, now even the Bills could beat us at our best. Please.

Based upon this statement, all teams prior to parity could beat any team after parity.

Sometimes people go over the top. Give me a break already.

Kelly was a great QB. In fact, I really liked the guy. But if I had a choice between Kelly and Brady, it is a no brainer. Brady please.

 

[PullMyFinger]

Geez, now even the Bills could beat us at our best. Please.

Based upon this statement, all teams prior to parity could beat any team after parity.

Sometimes people go over the top. Give me a break already.

Kelly was a great QB. In fact, I really liked the guy. But if I had a choice between Kelly and Brady, it is a no brainer. Brady please.

Nothing to see here, move along.

 

[PullMyFinger]

you understand how punishment works. your misusing a word for emotional appeal and im not going to play along. the owners wanted the cap and jerry jones was the biggest proponent. its not like the us government mandated it.

those teams failed because they made bad contract decisions not because they wre puniished. the 49ers cheated.

<sigh> If its not punishment then what is it? Give me your word for it then.

Oh and it was the players that wanted the cap, that was partially what the strike was all about. Greedy players wanting mega buck deals. Now they just go to a team with a lot of cap space and play for that team, their former team, which could afford their services, can no longer because they are restricted by the cap. Jerry like many other large market owners were against it, especially the revenue sharing part.

If a team can afford to give 25 players 50 million dollar contracts why shouldn't they be able to?

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

<sigh> If its not punishment then what is it? Give me your word for it then.

negative outcomes for bad management of the salary cap that they imposed on themselves.

 

[PullMyFinger]

:bang2: OMG I give up.

 

[fanfromvirginia]

And whats wrong with that? Thats how it should be. If your a big market team, you shouldnt have to suffer by sharing your revenue or loosing your good players.

If not for the cap Jerry could buy who he wanted. Sheesh could you imagine Dallas with Harrison, LT, Lewis, Bailey, etc, etc. I miss the Cowboys of the 90's. Our backups could start for most teams, so I ask again, whats wrong with that?

Hey, I'll admit that being a Yankees fan might have its advantages -- they do seem by and large pleased with their lot. And the Cowboys would be Yankees-Light, were this to happen. So I can see where you're coming from.

But I still don't want it. I don't like the yearly turnover of baseball, the skyrocketing salaries, and the lopsided playing field, even if my team would benefit. I guess in a nutshell I want Detroit and Arizona to continue to have no excuses for their awfulness.

 

[fanfromvirginia]

<sigh> If its not punishment then what is it? Give me your word for it then.

Oh and it was the players that wanted the cap, that was partially what the strike was all about. Greedy players wanting mega buck deals. Now they just go to a team with a lot of cap space and play for that team, their former team, which could afford their services, can no longer because they are restricted by the cap. Jerry like many other large market owners were against it, especially the revenue sharing part.

If a team can afford to give 25 players 50 million dollar contracts why shouldn't they be able to?

The players did not want the cap. Are you kidding? The players wanted free agency but not the friggin' cap, which is a limit on how much players can be paid.

 

[PullMyFinger]

Your right, I stand corrected. I knew it was something along those lines. But the limit is kinda mute now wouldnt you say? Too many ways to manipulate the cap.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Your right, I stand corrected. I knew it was something along those lines. But the limit is kinda mute now wouldnt you say? Too many ways to manipulate the cap.

Other than LTBE and NLTBE exceptions which dont really add up to much what are you talkinga bout?

 

[fanfromvirginia]

Your right, I stand corrected. I knew it was something along those lines. But the limit is kinda mute now wouldnt you say? Too many ways to manipulate the cap.

There are ways to manipulate the cap and they can be difficult to understand and legalistically interpreted. That's annoying. But they pale in comparison to the NBA in terms of manipulation and such. I think the cap is a pretty good moderate compromise, after all is said and done. There's some room to manipulate but generally it's a level playing field and it keeps the salaries from skyrocketing without screwing over the players.

Don't get me wrong -- I don't begrudge someone their dislikes of the current system. It's not without its significant flaws. Given the circumstances, though, I'm okay with what exists and think that the current popularity of the NFL is partially a function of this moderate compromise.