Who is the better quarterback: Eli Manning or Tony Romo?

[ufcrules1]

That is your opinion. I don't doubt many QB you think are elite I would disagree with. I think Eli is a very good QB if you go through the thread I have said as much. How would Romo play the 9ers? I don't know Dallas beat them. Notice did not say Romo beat them the Cowboys beat them why because Teams win not 1 player.

NY defense had as much to do with their success than Eli. You base your views on SB that is you I think SB are team accomplishment and it takes an entire team to win not 1. If this was about how the best QB was would get the SB than GB should have won it and Peyton Manning should have about 5 or 6 but it does nto work that way.

Yeah, it is my opinion.. that is what the IMO stands for (In my opinion). Both players are an enigma to an extent. Eli is lucky sometimes and Romo is cursed at the worst times. At the end of the day, I'm not sure the whole Cowboys team trusts Romo in the big games and I believe the opposite to be true with Eli. Eli has earned elite status in my book. He talks a big talk and then out plays some of the other elite QB's like Rodgers and Brady, so he backs up his talk.

Romo has had every single excuse in the book. Bad coaches, bad team, bad luck, bad offensive line, etc.

Eli > Romo. It sucks but I don't see how it can be viewed any other way. Eli excels when everything is on the line and Romo chokes.

 

[ufcrules1]

So, is he the second best qb in NFL history? If not why?

Because stats alone does not make a great QB. There are other tangibles they must excel at. Saying if Romo was on NY he would have a ring by now is silly. Now, if Marino played on NY then saying he would have a ring is logical. He played on truly terrible teams and still lit it up and was a GREAT leader. He had the respect and admiration of everyone on the team.

 

[Doomsday101]

Yeah, it is my opinion.. that is what the IMO stands for (In my opinion). Both players are an enigma to an extent. Eli is lucky sometimes and Romo is cursed at the worst times. At the end of the day, I'm not sure the whole Cowboys team trusts Romo in the big games and I believe the opposite to be true with Eli. Eli has earned elite status in my book. He talks a big talk and then out plays some of the other elite QB's like Rodgers and Brady, so he backs up his talk.

Romo has had every single excuse in the book. Bad coaches, bad team, bad luck, bad offensive line, etc.

Eli > Romo. It sucks but I don't see how it can be viewed any other way. Eli excels when everything is on the line and Romo chokes.

I know what IMO stand for I know based on these talks before your criteria of elite. I don't happen to agree with it. And the world keeps on turning.

You make claims that can't be proven one way or the other. Cowboys don't trust him in big game but NY does? That is nothing but throwing crap on the wall with nothing to back it up. That it is fine. As for excuses I consider the failures of the Cowboys just that a team failure and as part of that team Romo shares in it he is not above it nor is he the reason for it.

 

[interestedobserver]

I'm not saying Eli will not make it to the HOF, is he one of the best QB I have seen? No, is he the best playing in the league right now? No he is not.

Eli does have 2 rings he has also put up some horrible season, Brady may not win a SB every year but he puts up quality numbers yearly, as does Brees as does Peyton. Eli could just as easily put up a stinker as he has done before like after the 08 SB. In 2010 he was throwing ints at a very high rate. To me greatness of a QB is the high consistency of that QB year in year out not having a couple of good years where you and your team win a SB

As for Plunkett he was exactly what Davis wanted in a QB he fit the mold of Lamonica, as much success as they had with Stabler he was not that big down field passer that Lomonica was Plunkett fit that mold

Best QB ever is a different standard than HOF.

 

[interestedobserver]

I'd probably say, Unitas, Elway, Peyton, maybe Marino if I had to pick one. Or maybe I'd just say Peyton.

 

[Doomsday101]

Best QB ever is a different standard than HOF.

He may get in he may not, who is to say?

 

[Doomsday101]

I'd probably say, Unitas, Elway, Peyton, maybe Marino if I had to pick one. Or maybe I'd just say Peyton.

Any of those a case could be made and I can think of a few others

 

[ScipioCowboy]

Eli Manning.

And for those who would use stats to place Romo over Manning, answer this question:

Was Troy Aikman a better quarterback than Steve Young? Most of us would answer Aikman.

I'm not taking anything away from Romo here. Like Young, he's a great quarterback, as their stats demonstrate.

 

[Shunpike]

Giants defense didn't click until Week 15.

Eli practically carried the team on his shoulders with 4th quarter comebacks.

He played brilliantly in the play offs.

Romo is more talented for sure but there is something missing about him.

In the last 2 Superbowl seasons here is who Eli's team defeated

2008
Tampa on the road
Dallas on the road (Number 1 seed)
Packers on the road (Number 2 sead)
Pats in the big game (Undefeated team)

2012
Atlanta at home
Packers on the road (Number 1 seed)
49ers on the road (Number 2 seed)
Patriots in the big game (AFC's best record)

If Romo played any of those above games, how many would he win all other factors being the same?

 

[Idgit]

Eli Manning.

And for those who would use stats to place Romo over Manning, answer this question:

Was Troy Aikman a better quarterback than Steve Young? Most of us would answer Aikman.

I'm not taking anything away from Romo here. Like Young, he's a great quarterback, as their stats demonstrate.

This is a good example of the flip side of the Eli v. P Manning, Drew Brees, Aaron Rodgers question that nobody seems to want to answer directly.

I'll say this: Young v. Aikman is close, despite the Superbowl disparity in Aikman's favor. Young does have the benefit of playing in the WCO, which skews some of his stats favorably. Then again, he was on the bench for a good stretch of his career, or his numbers would be even better.

Having seen all four QBs play, though, I'd say they're all better than Eli is, but I still think Eli's a very good QB.

Honestly, though, when you're talking about players as good as these guys all are, I don't understand why people would give so much credit to a factor (Superbowl victories) that is *so* dependent on so many other factors (protection, running games, defensive secondaries, defensive pass rush, coaching, relative skill levels of respective teams, non-passing turnovers, etc). outside of the QB's control. When you multiply all that uncertainty by the fact that all of these factors that have to come into play in multiple post-season games before a player can even *get* to the Superbowl...it doesn't make any sense at all to me. Yet somehow, a number of really good, rational posters disagree. I don't understand what they're seeing.

 

[gbrittain]

Giants defense didn't click until Week 15.

Eli practically carried the team on his shoulders with 4th quarter comebacks.

He played brilliantly in the play offs.

Romo is more talented for sure but there is something missing about him.

In the last 2 Superbowl seasons here is who Eli's team defeated

2008
Tampa on the road
Dallas on the road (Number 1 seed)
Packers on the road (Number 2 sead)
Pats in the big game (Undefeated team)up

2012
Atlanta at home
Packers on the road (Number 1 seed)
49ers on the road (Number 2 seed)
Patriots in the big game (AFC's best record)

If Romo played any of those above games, how many would he win all other factors being the same?

No way to know for sure obviously but since I get to assume that the defense will hold those teams to 14, 17, 20, 14, 0, 20, 17, and 17 points, I like his chances.

When you factor in that every playoff game Eli had ever played in in which the defense allowed 21 points or more he has lost.

 

[boyzjunkie]

No way to know for sure obviously but since I get to assume that the defense will hold those teams to 14, 17, 20, 14, 0, 20, 17, and 17 points, I like his chances.

When you factor in that every playoff game Eli had ever played in in which the defense allowed 21 points or more he has lost.

So by your count he has won eight playoff games where the opponents have been held to twenty one points or less.

And they have lost what? Seven or eight where the opponents have scored twenty one or more? Refresh my memory. Is it seven or eight they lost where the opponents scored twenty one or more. Not seven or eight? Then how many.

Face it guys. Eli is a heck of a quarterback. He also happens to be a doofus that throws wobbly ducks. But when HOF time rolls around the writers will remember the rings, comeback wins and his "leadership". Not the ducks and his goofy grin.

 

[Wood]

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000...e-better-quarterback-eli-manning-or-tony-romo

Agree? Disagree?

Anyone who picks someone who has 1 playoff victory over two time super bowl winner should get 1 year ban from watching sports.

 

[Afigueroa22]

Anyone who picks someone who has 1 playoff victory over two time super bowl winner should get 1 year ban from watching sports.

 

[ElGatoGrande]

It's sad how easily the media can whip the unwashed masses up into a frenzy by proposing the most inane arguments.

 

[garyv]

Are u talkin NFL Wins or Fantasy Football ?

NFL Wins = Eli Manning
Fantasy Football = Tony Romo

My Opinion only !!!

 

[randy932]

Eli by a mile. No contest.

 

[SultanOfSix]

Anyone who picks someone who has 1 playoff victory over two time super bowl winner should get 1 year ban from watching sports.

I wasn't aware the Eli was playing 1 vs 11 out there. He truly is the Superman of QBs.

 

[AmericasTeam31]

Here's an interesting tid bit of information...

Tony get's beat up by the talking heads all the time about how poor his performance is in December and how he can never get us over the hump late in the season. Meanwhile, Eli is lauded as the clutch player who always gets it done when it matters most, right?

Well in their careers in November, December and January the numbers are as follows:

Tony Romo: 32W-20L

Eli Manning: 32W-37L

Explain the logic in that? It is also interesting that the "faltering down the stretch" persona is magnified for Tony when his record in Sep. and Oct. is a combined 27W-20L... So he's actually WORSE in Sept and Oct than he is in Nov-Jan...

While Eli is a combined 37W-14L in Sept and Oct.... So whose production of W's falls off more at the end of the season?

 

[Idgit]

Anyone who picks someone who has 1 playoff victory over two time super bowl winner should get 1 year ban from watching sports.

It's sad how easily the media can whip the unwashed masses up into a frenzy by proposing the most inane arguments.

Are u talkin NFL Wins or Fantasy Football ?

NFL Wins = Eli Manning
Fantasy Football = Tony Romo

My Opinion only !!!

Eli by a mile. No contest.

At first, I was approaching the question logically, and looking at nuanced reasons why I'd prefer one of these two very good QBs over another.

But then I realized that it was possible to just take an anti-Cowboys position, and to base it off of a single factor (Superbowl victories) that doesn't correlate entirely with one player's performance on a team. And then I heard it was crazy not to do this, because only a homer wouldn't make this enormous unsupportable leap in logic. So of course I changed my mind.

Mods, please don't ban me for a year from watching sports! You guys can't actually do that anyway, can you? Because it's really not cool if you can do that and then I get banned from sports for a year just for having an unpopular opinion.